Region 27

formerfcfan · Post by **formerfcfan** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:02 am

fortdawg wrote:"Addition of a couple of transfers" during the season----there is the heart of the matter where private and parochial schools have huge advantages over public schools.
Unless---there are any of public schools in the hunt for a spot that had a couple of transfers move in after game one.

Just wanted to clarify that they didn't move in after game one. They enrolled in before school started and had to sit the first five games.

Irish Dawg · Post by **Irish Dawg** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:27 am

Kids HP gains were sitting out 50% of year because of transfer rules. That is the same as anyone else. This will be a dogfight to see who comes out on top, but I would put my money on Harvest Prep because of their speed and schedule. Shadyside would be a second choice, also because of schedule.

Post by **EasternDspy** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:31 am

Waterford has crushed everyone that schedule except Fort Frye and a 14 win over Trimble. Give credit where it's due they played 3 playoff teams and Shadyside played 2.

js7_22 · Post by **js7_22** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:26 am

Irish Dawg wrote:Kids HP gains were sitting out 50% of year because of transfer rules. That is the same as anyone else. This will be a dogfight to see who comes out on top, but I would put my money on Harvest Prep because of their speed and schedule. Shadyside would be a second choice, also because of schedule.

It's known that HP recruits, don't tell me they do not.

I'll give Waterford all the credit, they will be a tough team to beat. It may come down to them at the end, this region will def see some great matchups. Don't count Trimble out yet either, HP may have speed but that speed won't be that big of a factor when they get worn down in the trenches.

The game of football is all about matchups and strategy. You force a team to do something they don't want to do and they will break.

Irish Dawg · Post by **Irish Dawg** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:25 am

Never said anything about how they get their boys in. They have had kids come and go the past few years. Good luck to everyone in the region, but they will be faster than anyone has seen in this region all year.

Mailman · Post by **Mailman** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:19 pm

Are you guys talking about the Harvest Prep that is sitting just outside the last playoff spot? Arguing they are the best team in the region and they may not even make the playoffs.

MeyerSpread · Post by **MeyerSpread** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:33 pm

Yes, they are a lock if they beat Fairfield Christian and they are big favorites.

calpreps projection: Harvest Prep 41- Fairfield Christian 24

According to Drew Pasteur's Fantastic 50- http://www.fantastic50.net/r27pct.html

Clinched a playoff berth
1. Waterford (8-1) (seed range #1-#3)
2. Portsmouth Sciotoville (9-0) (seed range #1-#7)
3. Shadyside (7-2) (seed range #1-#7)
4. Glouster Trimble (7-2) (seed range #2-#6)
5. Racine Southern (7-2) (seed range #3-#8)
6. Danville (6-3) (seed range #2-#8)

Likely playoff teams
7. Portsmouth Notre Dame (7-2) 88% (need 7-3)
8. Harvest Prep (6-3) 83% (need 7-3)
(Top 8 earn a playoff berth)

Longshots
9. Fairfield Christian (7-2) 16% (need 8-2)
10. Zanesville Rosecrans (6-3) 13%

formerfcfan · Post by **formerfcfan** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:44 pm

Mailman wrote:Are you guys talking about the Harvest Prep that is sitting just outside the last playoff spot? Arguing they are the best team in the region and they may not even make the playoffs.

No one else in Region 27 plays Bexley and Franklin Heights without having the 30 point rule invoked. They had a few screwups vs Rosecrans which resulted in their demise but they made some corrections on D and have been on fire ever since.

Assuming they make it in, which they will when they beat FCA, they'll have played the toughest non-league schedule with by far the most competitive performance anyone in this region could've thrown against Bexley and FH.

asb · Post by **asb** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:16 pm

To be the best you have to beat the best....and that is why you play the game, period. No mater who you're for or against, the team that wins will advance. May the best team win!

BiddyBallDaddy · Post by **BiddyBallDaddy** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:34 pm

formerfcfan wrote:
Mailman wrote:Are you guys talking about the Harvest Prep that is sitting just outside the last playoff spot? Arguing they are the best team in the region and they may not even make the playoffs.
No one else in Region 27 plays Bexley and Franklin Heights without having the 30 point rule invoked. They had a few screwups vs Rosecrans which resulted in their demise but they made some corrections on D and have been on fire ever since.

Assuming they make it in, which they will when they beat FCA, they'll have played the toughest non-league schedule with by far the most competitive performance anyone in this region could've thrown against Bexley and FH.

I'm sorry but they have only beaten 1 team with a winning record currently, and their last two games featured teams that are each 1-8. Grove City Christian is border line a joke, and Fisher Catholic is as well. Beating a Millersport team 84-0 is just sad in my eyes. What did they learn from that? Not much in my opinion. Their only win over Worthington Christian (currently only team they have won against with a winning record) is laughable too. Worthington has wins over 0-9, 1-8, 1-8, 0-9, and 7-2 Fairfield Christian. Please don't tell me Berne Union is a quality win either, Berne has wins over 4 losing record (2-6, 1-8, 1-8, 0-9) teams.

Fairfield Christian is over ranked in my opinion, so they shouldn't have much trouble with them if they (HP) are any good. Fairfield hasn't beaten a team with a winning record yet.

The rankings are rewarding teams who actually play someone, and losing to three winning record teams, and beating up on losing record teams is far from worthy in my opinion. We'll see just how good they truly are if they make it into the playoffs and play someone worth talking about.

formerfcfan · Post by **formerfcfan** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:42 pm

They can't control how good or bad the rest of their league performs (just like Trimble & Waterford can't control how bad Fed Hock, Wahama, and Belpre are; Sciotoville & ND can't control Green and Symmes Valley being down.) However, I do agree: if they don't make it in then they're ultimately not worthy of being in; it is plain and simple.

I reference non-league because if they instead chose to schedule the Southeast Ohio way by scheduling at, instead of above, their level then their playoff position would be a lot more reflective of where they would stand in the region by virtue of more wins & consequently L2's.

BiddyBallDaddy · Post by **BiddyBallDaddy** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:47 pm

formerfcfan wrote:
Mailman wrote:Are you guys talking about the Harvest Prep that is sitting just outside the last playoff spot? Arguing they are the best team in the region and they may not even make the playoffs.
No one else in Region 27 plays Bexley and Franklin Heights without having the 30 point rule invoked. They had a few screwups vs Rosecrans which resulted in their demise but they made some corrections on D and have been on fire ever since.

Assuming they make it in, which they will when they beat FCA, they'll have played the toughest non-league schedule with by far the most competitive performance anyone in this region could've thrown against Bexley and FH.

Bexley might be the real deal, but they won't make it very far in the playoffs. Franklin Heights is decent, but will be beaten in the 1st or 2nd round of the playoffs as well. They are a Division 2 school playing a division 7? Come on now. They have beaten some TERRIBLE 0-9 Division 1 schools, and beat Groveport Madison who plays a joke of a schedule as well. Their only win against a winning record opponent is Eastmore Academy.

Looking at their schedule is one thing, digging into it and seeing who those teams have played is another piece of the puzzle.

BiddyBallDaddy · Post by **BiddyBallDaddy** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:49 pm

formerfcfan wrote:They can't control how good or bad the rest of their league performs (just like Trimble & Waterford can't control how bad Fed Hock, Wahama, and Belpre are; Sciotoville & ND can't control Green and Symmes Valley being down. However, I do agree: if they don't make it in then they're ultimately not worthy of being in; it is plain and simple.

I reference non-league because if they instead chose to schedule the Southeast Ohio way by scheduling at, instead of above, their level then their playoff position would be a lot more reflective of where they would stand in the region by virtue of more wins & consequently L2's.

I understand they can't control it, but you are putting HP on this untouchable step if they even make it into the playoffs. They will most likely have to travel to Waterford or Trimble, that's a long drive and a good, okay, maybe great teams. That will be the real test.

Should be interesting.

formerfcfan · Post by **formerfcfan** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:52 pm

I actually think Shadyside is the best team in this region, FWIW. I just got onto the topic of HP since they're being discussed and since they're in my league, I figured I'd put up for them.

BiddyBallDaddy · Post by **BiddyBallDaddy** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:14 pm

I'm gonna put my money on the top 2, Waterford or Trimble, to make it out of this. Shadyside's record against winning opponents is not too flattering.

Trimble may have Waterford's number should they ever play each other again.

formerfcfan · Post by **formerfcfan** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:22 pm

As cliché as it sounds, this may be a year where every team in week 11 has an equal chance of winning the region (except Southern and maybe Sciotoville?)

Shadyside has the coaching that's been in the playoffs before with upperclassmen that knows what level of play is expected in the playoffs.

Danville - Jekyll & Hyde team?

Waterford is good, and Trimble is always solid. I just don't know if there is a team that really stands apart from the rest in this region... not until week 13 when the clock strikes 0:00, quarter 4, at least.

powtowner · Post by **powtowner** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:39 pm

EasternDspy wrote:Waterford has crushed everyone that schedule except Fort Frye and a 14 win over Trimble. Give credit where it's due they played 3 playoff teams and Shadyside played 2.

Shadyside played 4 playoff teams... Toronto, Bellaire, River and WV state contender Wheeling Central

Mailman · Post by **Mailman** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:31 pm

I'm not sure how all the scoring works. But looking at Joe Eitel, if I'm reading it correctly, Harvest Prep only makes it in if they win and if Rosecrans loses. Am I missing something. Not saying anything bad, I really don't know if I'm missing something.

Post by **EasternDspy** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:26 pm

Mailman wrote:I'm not sure how all the scoring works. But looking at Joe Eitel, if I'm reading it correctly, Harvest Prep only makes it in if they win and if Rosecrans loses. Am I missing something. Not saying anything bad, I really don't know if I'm missing something.

Harvest Prep would pass Rosecrans with a win over (7-2) Fairfield Christian. Rosecrans plays (3-6) Con Valley and won't get many points. Only way Rosecrans makes it is if Fairfield Christian upsets HP.

Stan_Marsh · Post by **Stan_Marsh** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:38 pm

I wouldn't put my money on Harvest Prep, BUT I'm not sure if I'll be surprised regardless of who wins the region.

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