River Valley School Board to Vote in Dec on joining TVC

[NYBuckeye96]

River Valley applied for and was voted into the TVC by the TVC schools at the last meeting. The RV school board will vote in December to make this final.

Since the school had to formally apply for admission to be voted in, there is no reason to think the school board would turn down the invite after formally applying for admission. Someone had a problem with my wording in the last post, so here it is point blank!

River Valley is set to join the TVC in the fall of 2012. My sources say River Valley will become the new Week 5 opponent for Nelsonville-York as of 2013, after the upcoming home-and-home week 5 series with Logan concludes.

There is concensus in the TVC that adding an additional school would be ideal to avoid late season non-league games.

My sources also say that Warren is eagerly awaiting an opportunity to rejoin the TVC. With Marietta leaving the SEOAL, Warren is on an island by itself with long road trips to the remaining SEOAL schools and no nearby league rival.

There will be much discussion at upcoming TVC league meetings about the future of the TVC - future expansion and whether that involves keeping the 2 current divisions, or creating a new 3rd divison.

[NYBuckeye96]

River Valley would become the 5th former SEOAL school to join the TVC OHIO.

With the MSL upcoming expansion study in the spring of 2011 --- of which Logan and Chillicothe are key targets for MSL expansion --- and with the TVC looking at adding additional schools and possibly creating additional divisions --- it will be interesting to see how this all plays out. Jackson has previously shown interest in the TVC as well.

Could we possibly see a SEOAL - TVC merger with divisions broken down by school size? Kind of like an OCC or MSL.

[NYBuckeye96]

If the TVC OHIO and TVC HOCKING remain with an odd number of schools, I have a solution that might work. First, it is not realistic to expect a TVC HOCKING school to join the TVC OHIO. Belpre and Federal Hocking are shrinking rapidly and will both most likely be D6 along with the rest of the Hocking after the next census.

Instead, how about late season non-league games between Ohio and Hocking schools? Since there would be 2 more Hocking schools, those two schools wouldn't play Ohio schools but could have an early season n on-league game to easily fill their schedule. It could look something like this:

Week 1 - all schools play non-league
Week 2 - Ohio schools non-league; Hocking schools league, (Waterford non-league)
Week 3 - Ohio schools non-league; Hocking schools league, (Miller non-league)
Week 4 - 10 - all OHIO and HOCKING schools play league games with one non-league game each week between the two divisions, that could be broken down like this:

Week 4 - NY & Trimble
Week 5 - Alex & Fed Hock
Week 6 - Wellston & Eastern
Week 7 - Vinton County & Belpre
Week 8 - Meigs & Southern
Week 9 - Athens & Wahama
Week 10 - River Valley & South Gallia

That way, no TVC school in either division would have to fight to find a late season non-league game. The two extra TVC Hocking schools - in this example, Waterford and Miller - would have their extra non-league game in week 3 and 4 respectively, which would be convenient for them to find non-league competition that early in the season.

That is one way this could work with just the addition of River Valley.

[NYBuckeye96]

One other problem - many Hocking schools feel that playing 8 league games is too many. We could have a couple Hocking schools willing to move up to a middle division if a third division were created, along with a couple Ohio schools who would be willing to move down to a middle division. That would make the creation of a third division easier. This would solve the problem of some Hocking schools not wanting to play 8 league games, thus giving them more flexibility in creating non-league schedules.

[Orange and Brown]

A lot to think about and a lot of things could happen!

[Run Bubba Run]

NYB96,

Interesting points you bring up for discussion. If, in fact, Chilly and Logan went to the MSL and perhaps Gallia, Jackson and Warren eventually came to the TVC (just saying if) I would insist on the league being called the Tri-Valley Conference with the SEOAL totally disbanded.

Certainly a league with 15 current members would want to retain their identity and not bow down to the larger new members of the league. A lot of SE Ohio FB history would be left behind for sure, but that is what history is made of. Things from the past.

The SEOAL has already given up on a lot of their history unilaterally. The memory of games at the old fields in Logan, Gallipolis and Jackson for instance. But then many still remember the Thanksgiving games when Jackson/Wellston and Middleport/Pomeroy got together. Those are cherished memories I'm sure. And still FB went on.

The next year will be interesting in SE athletic circles. The guys who should eat this up are the local sportswriters. Lots and lots of possible stories.

Must stop, I am rambling.

[Orange and Brown]

3 more teams and we can have three 6 team divisions.

[Orange and Brown]

might look something like this if Logan and Chilli go to the MSL.

BIG DIVISION

Athens
Warren
Nelsonville-York
Vinton County
Gallia
Meigs


MEDIUM DIVISION

Alexander
River Valley
Wellston
Federal Hocking
Belpre
Trimble

SMALL DIVISION

Eastern
Miller
Southern
South Gallia
Waterford
Wahama

It could look like that, then again it could look completly different.

[NYBuckeye96]

A lot of SEOAL history is already in the TVC. Consider this.....

The SEOAL will have 6 members next year - Logan, Jackson, Gallia Academy, Warren, Portsmouth, Chillicothe

The TVC OHIO will have 5 former SEOAL members when RV joins - NY, Wellston, Meigs, Athens, and River Valley

Even as two seperate leagues, the history of each league is tied to the other.

[91Buckeye]

There are a lot of scenarios that haven't been considered if you factor in Chilli and Logan taking off for another conference.

Would Athens, Vinton County, Meigs, Wellston, Alexander, or NY consider applying for SEOAL membership?
Does Portsmouth stay or start looking somwhere else?
Does Jackson look for another league other than the TVC?
If it is determined that Trimble/NY must consolidate do they look to the SEOAL?

There are so many possibilites by the time 2013 rolls around it is impossible to predict. I do think that change is inevitable.

[NYBuckeye96]

Good points 91Buckeye. Lots of change is on the way, and I think it will be a domino effect. And the way the dominos fall will depend on how the first domino falls.

Of course, the argument could be made that the first domino fell when Athens joined the TVC. I think that when the dust settles, it will all come back to that moment as when the first domino fell.

[A-Town Big Dog]

If Logan and Chilli jump ship I think Jackson and Gallia are likely to land in the same location where ever that may be TVC, SOC, etc. I think Warren is very likely to make the jump to the TVC and I don't know where that would leave the TVC in finding a 3rd school.

[Orange and Brown]

Good points 91Buckeye. Lots of change is on the way, and I think it will be a domino effect. And the way the dominos fall will depend on how the first domino falls.

Of course, the argument could be made that the first domino fell when Athens joined the TVC. I think that when the dust settles, it will all come back to that moment as when the first domino fell.

Or you could argue the first Domino fell when the Seoal expanded.

[RadioLady]

[quote="NYBuckeye96"]If the TVC OHIO and TVC HOCKING remain with an odd number of schools, I have a solution that might work. First, it is not realistic to expect a TVC HOCKING school to join the TVC OHIO. Belpre and Federal Hocking are shrinking rapidly and will both most likely be D6 along with the rest of the Hocking after the next census.

Instead, how about late season non-league games between Ohio and Hocking schools? Since there would be 2 more Hocking schools, those two schools wouldn't play Ohio schools but could have an early season n on-league game to easily fill their schedule. It could look something like this:

Week 1 - all schools play non-league
Week 2 - Ohio schools non-league; Hocking schools league, (Waterford non-league)
Week 3 - Ohio schools non-league; Hocking schools league, (Miller non-league)
Week 4 - 10 - all OHIO and HOCKING schools play league games with one non-league game each week between the two divisions, that could be broken down like this:

Week 4 - NY & Trimble
Week 5 - Alex & Fed Hock
Week 6 - Wellston & Eastern
Week 7 - Vinton County & Belpre
Week 8 - Meigs & Southern
Week 9 - Athens & WahamaWeek 10 - River Valley & South Gallia

That way, no TVC school in either division would have to fight to find a late season non-league game. The two extra TVC Hocking schools - in this example, Waterford and Miller - would have their extra non-league game in week 3 and 4 respectively, which would be convenient for them to find non-league competition that early in the season.

That is one way this could work with just the addition of River Valley.



Nice to see Athens still wanting to build a program on the backs of single A opponents. Maybe we could invite Hannan in for them to play. Wasnt there a game scheduled between these two....

[freethrow]

It doesn't make sense to add just one team to the league. Your still not balanced as far as the Hocking and Ohio. If your bringing in Warren or Jackso then bring them. The TVC has made a mess of it's self with all this. Plus if you add Warren and Jackson it's over for Athens run in the TVC. Just when they thought they got away from the SEOAL they may be back.

[Heavy D]

It doesn't make sense to add just one team to the league. Your still not balanced as far as the Hocking and Ohio. If your bringing in Warren or Jackso then bring them. The TVC has made a mess of it's self with all this. Plus if you add Warren and Jackson it's over for Athens run in the TVC. Just when they thought they got away from the SEOAL they may be back.

What run is that? The middle of the pack run? Are you saying with those two added Athens would possibly fall below their mid pack status?

[A-Town Big Dog]

It doesn't make sense to add just one team to the league. Your still not balanced as far as the Hocking and Ohio. If your bringing in Warren or Jackso then bring them. The TVC has made a mess of it's self with all this. Plus if you add Warren and Jackson it's over for Athens run in the TVC. Just when they thought they got away from the SEOAL they may be back.

What run is that? The middle of the pack run? Are you saying with those two added Athens would possibly fall below their mid pack status?

Middle of what pack? Football isn't the only high school sport played in the TVC and I think if you look at overall league titles since their arrival you would agree they are dominant. Athens won or shared a league title in all but one sport last season.

[A-Town Big Dog]

[quote="greatone"]It doesn't make sense to add just one team to the league. Your still not balanced as far as the Hocking and Ohio. If your bringing in Warren or Jackso then bring them. The TVC has made a mess of it's self with all this. Plus if you add Warren and Jackson it's over for Athens run in the TVC. Just when they thought they got away from the SEOAL they may be back.[/quote
Athens never had a problem with the SEOAL in years past, it wasn't until the league expanded to Ironton, Portsmouth, etc. with a nearly parallel tanking of the econemy that options closer to home were explored. Again people on here have a hard time grasping that there are several sports to consider and at the time Athens left the SEOAL things like a 4 hr round trip to Ironton for a JV softball game wasn't going to be feasable for long in the budget. I've said it a thousand times on here and other places this was a financial move far more than a move to be more competitive. If the TVC ends up looking more like the SEOAL in the 90's I'd welcome the change and except both the benefits and downfalls associated with the additions.

[NYBuckeye96]

there are several sports to consider and at the time Athens left the SEOAL things like a 4 hr round trip to Ironton for a JV softball game wasn't going to be feasable for long in the budget. I've said it a thousand times on here and other places this was a financial move far more than a move to be more competitive. If the TVC ends up looking more like the SEOAL in the 90's I'd welcome the change and except both the benefits and downfalls associated with the additions.

I think this statement mirrors exactly what the admin at Warren is thinking right now. Anyone who knows about their play to pay announcement outside of what was printed in the newspaper article would say the same thing.

[Mercerville Monster]

Week 10 - River Valley & South Gallia

Wonder how all this will go over with the Gallia County Local School Board and their rule of neither of the county schools playing each other in any athletic event? SG and RV have scrimmaged in Football the past two years and it has went very well it seems. Sure would be one of the most heated rivalries in the TVC.