Division V, Region 17

[NYBuckeye96]

What are your thoughts on the new DV R17? Lots of tradition rich teams here........

Albany Alexander
Amanda-Clearcreek
Rayland Buckeye Local
Richmond Edison
Proctorville Fairland
Sugarcreek Garaway
Cadiz Harrison Central
Ironton
Baltimore Liberty Union
Martins Ferry
Minford
Nelsonville-York
Johnstown Northridge
Mc Dermott Northwest
Oak Hill
Portsmouth
West Portsmouth Portsmouth West
West Lafayette Ridgewood
Bidwell River Valley
Ironton Rock Hill
South Point
Zoarville Tuscarawas Valley
Belmont Union Local
Utica
Wellston
Zanesville West Muskingum
Wheelersburg

[4thgoal]

I think the lineup in Region 17 is great. Too bad this will only be for 1 year and then the competitive balance referendum takes effect and things will get shuffled around every year

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

tough region, I was hoping to see valley there as well.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

that's gonna change the landsxape ain't it 4th.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

that's gonna change the landscape ain't it 4th.

[4thgoal]

Time will tell, but I would imagine that most of these schools will see a reasonably equal increase from this change and in the end, the region will stay very similar. The top 3-4 schools in enrollment could bump up to D4 and the top 3-4 from D6 could bump up. I wonder if this will change some schools from dressing all freshman for varsity games? If they are dressed, they become part of the roster and then become part of the count. If they are just part of the freshman roster, there is no impact. Maybe coaches will say "any freshman who are not open enrollment and have been here since 7th grade can dress on Friday nights" LOL

[Badboy]

My guess on the top 8 from the region that make the playoffs (no particular order):

Ironton
Minford
Wheelersburg
Portsmouth West
Amanda Clearcreek
Martins Ferry
Liberty Union
Nelsonville York

From a distance it looks FAIRLY easy to get into the top 8 and then its a dogfight.

[Westfan]

kvnchambers had this on another thread.

region 17 this year listed as last years region, last years computer point and "x" for play off teams last year

wheelersburg 17 26.98 x
garaway 19 24.95 x
ironton 17 24.28 x
amanda clearcreek 13 18.5 x
martins ferry 17 18.28 x
liberty union 17 17.75 x
ridgewood 21 15.25 x
portsmouth west 17 15.05 x
nelsonville york 21 14.8 x
minford 14 13.6
oak hill 21 12.44
harrison central 15 10.35
alexander 17 9.5
river valley 17 7.7
northwest 17 7
portsmoth 17 5.48
union local 17 5.23
wellston 17 4.9
rock hill 17 3.65
south point 17 2.76
fairland 17 2.7
edison 13 2.66
west muskingham 17 1.7
utica 13 1.65
northridge 17 0.754
buckeye local 13 0.5
tuscarwarus valley 13 0

[Westfan]

This region is sometimes very tough to get in. Especially a home playoff game.

Don't know anything about Garaway.
Liberty Union is probably down for a while. They were senior laden last year and their posters on JJHUDDLE said last year was probably the end of talent for a while.
Ridgewood always seems to accumulate alot of points.
Ironton's move to the OVC and the open date is really going to hurt them. They probably need to win 2 or 3 from Wheelersburg, Russell, and Ashland to get in.
Minford could loose to Valley, Wheelersburg, West, and quite possibly Bishop Ready. They will need to win to win one of those and all 6 other games to sneak in.

IMO these 8 teams (Wheelersburg, Garaway, Ironton, Amanda Clearcreek, Martins Ferry, West Lafayette Ridgwood, Portsmouth West, Nelsonville York) will make the playoffs. Team with the best chance to be one of the 8 is Minford. Wildcard is Garaway.

[Orange and Brown]

Time will tell, but I would imagine that most of these schools will see a reasonably equal increase from this change and in the end, the region will stay very similar. The top 3-4 schools in enrollment could bump up to D4 and the top 3-4 from D6 could bump up. I wonder if this will change some schools from dressing all freshman for varsity games? If they are dressed, they become part of the roster and then become part of the count. If they are just part of the freshman roster, there is no impact. Maybe coaches will say "any freshman who are not open enrollment and have been here since 7th grade can dress on Friday nights" LOL

Roster size doesn't determine your count numbers......

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

did Minford and Amanda clearcreek drop a division.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

kvnchambers had this on another thread.

region 17 this year listed as last years region, last years computer point and "x" for play off teams last year

wheelersburg 17 26.98 x
garaway 19 24.95 x
ironton 17 24.28 x
amanda clearcreek 13 18.5 x
martins ferry 17 18.28 x
liberty union 17 17.75 x
ridgewood 21 15.25 x
portsmouth west 17 15.05 x
nelsonville york 21 14.8 x
minford 14 13.6
oak hill 21 12.44
harrison central 15 10.35
alexander 17 9.5
river valley 17 7.7
northwest 17 7
portsmoth 17 5.48
union local 17 5.23
wellston 17 4.9
rock hill 17 3.65
south point 17 2.76
fairland 17 2.7
edison 13 2.66
west muskingham 17 1.7
utica 13 1.65
northridge 17 0.754
buckeye local 13 0.5
tuscarwarus valley 13 0

westfan I been hit in the head a lot. but could you explain what these figures actually mean.

[Westfan]

I just copied what kvnchambers had on another thread. Its a really good measuring stick.
But they are the region 17 teams this year listed in order of their harbon points total from last year. What region they were in last year. And an x means they were a playoff team last year.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

ok okay. I got it now.

[Bozo]

The OHSAA stuck three SVC schools in Region 18. Piketon, Westfall and Zane Trace.
That region has the likes of CHCA, Jamestown Greenview, Versailles, Roger Bacon and Anna.

[4thgoal]

Time will tell, but I would imagine that most of these schools will see a reasonably equal increase from this change and in the end, the region will stay very similar. The top 3-4 schools in enrollment could bump up to D4 and the top 3-4 from D6 could bump up. I wonder if this will change some schools from dressing all freshman for varsity games? If they are dressed, they become part of the roster and then become part of the count. If they are just part of the freshman roster, there is no impact. Maybe coaches will say "any freshman who are not open enrollment and have been here since 7th grade can dress on Friday nights" LOL

Roster size doesn't determine your count numbers......

No, roster size does not, but it does increase your chances of having open enrollment kids or kids who have not been continuously enrolled since the 7th grade....

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

looks like a great division

[Orange and Brown]

Time will tell, but I would imagine that most of these schools will see a reasonably equal increase from this change and in the end, the region will stay very similar. The top 3-4 schools in enrollment could bump up to D4 and the top 3-4 from D6 could bump up. I wonder if this will change some schools from dressing all freshman for varsity games? If they are dressed, they become part of the roster and then become part of the count. If they are just part of the freshman roster, there is no impact. Maybe coaches will say "any freshman who are not open enrollment and have been here since 7th grade can dress on Friday nights" LOL

Roster size doesn't determine your count numbers......

No, roster size does not, but it does increase your chances of having open enrollment kids or kids who have not been continuously enrolled since the 7th grade....

Your logic is still flawed though lol

[4thgoal]

Your logic is still flawed though lol

Assume this hypothetical situation. Team A and B have the same enrollment count. Both teams have 25% of their roster who fall into the x2 multiplier.

Team A has 70 kids on their roster because they dress all the freshman and JV players. 70 x .25 = 17.5. Apply the x2 to those 17.5 and they have to add 35 to their count.

Team B has 40 kids on their roster, they do not dress freshman or JV players. 40 x .25 = 10. Apply the x2 to those 10 and they have to add 20 to their count.

In some cases, if you are close to the cutoff line, the difference of 15 kids between team A and B would change the division of Team A.

[Piratefan2]

I can agree with that...