Week 3: West (0-2) at Hillsboro (1-1)

[SiderSammy]

The last time a West team started 0-2 was 2021-22.
Can they figure out a way to right the ship and save the season?

[packers80]

Hillsboro.

[SiderBlood]

Wow. Never thought in a million years heading into week 3 we would be looking at 0-3 in the face. I dont know the first thing about Hillsboro this year, but based on our play thus far, I dont think any game on the schedule is a gimme. This might be the most embarrassing season I have witnessed in all of my years supporting this school. Especially when you account for expectations heading into the season. People and myself included talking about competing for the SOC and possibly playing for a regional championship. Shoot, at this point I would be tickled to see more than 7 points on the board. There has been 0 bright spots that would lead me to believe this ship will get turned around either. Some of the worst secondary play I have ever witnessed. Scared arm tackles. Cant throw the ball. Cant catch the ball. Have running backs that should be putting up video game numbers behind these supposedly college level lineman, but cant seem to get a push at the LOS at all. So does this come back to coaching? How do we have talented kids and have been outscored 75-7 in two games. Something better change quick. I don't have a prediction this week. Cross the fingers and hope we look like a respectable football program. Underperformance is an understatement at this point.

West is 4-2 all time against Hillsboro, with the two losses coming in the late 40's.

[greygoose]

^^^Wasn't you one arguing with me over a month ago how the QB position would be just "fine"? After 2 weeks guess I'm not sounding completely crazy and I will say that I totally agree with you there's no way I would've put money that West had 7 points total after 2 weeks with that OL and those RBs. They best get it figured out because once that OL is gone who knows where West is going to be, I wouldn't be shocked to see a certain player or 2 move out. West secondary has always been really bad and it doesn't matter the players in it and I really think it has to be scheme or development but it doesn't add up that the secondary is always the weak link.

[SiderSammy]

If you have been watching the same games we’ve all watched, how can you not look at the coaching? all week long the coaches “prepare” them for the following week. in games the coaches call the shots and have failed miserably at that. you have to be put in the right position to succeed as a player. imo that hasn’t happened and then your stars try to do to much and mess up themselves. it has been really ugly.

[SiderSammy]

^^^Wasn't you one arguing with me over a month ago how the QB position would be just "fine"? After 2 weeks guess I'm not sounding completely crazy and I will say that I totally agree with you there's no way I would've put money that West had 7 points total after 2 weeks with that OL and those RBs. They best get it figured out because once that OL is gone who knows where West is going to be, I wouldn't be shocked to see a certain player or 2 move out. West secondary has always been really bad and it doesn't matter the players in it and I really think it has to be scheme or development but it doesn't add up that the secondary is always the weak link.

I blame it all on the qb lol. he’s horrible and needs replaced immediately j/k of course. just forget he has only played two varsity games lol. it is called growing pains and they all have them.

If you have actually watched any games and actually know football you would see exactly the problems. *hint* only about 20% of it is on the players. they can only defend on what is called and they can only run the play that is called. tackling needs cleaned up for sure. this the same team as last year minus a couple.

[SiderBlood]

^^^Wasn't you one arguing with me over a month ago how the QB position would be just "fine"? After 2 weeks guess I'm not sounding completely crazy and I will say that I totally agree with you there's no way I would've put money that West had 7 points total after 2 weeks with that OL and those RBs. They best get it figured out because once that OL is gone who knows where West is going to be, I wouldn't be shocked to see a certain player or 2 move out. West secondary has always been really bad and it doesn't matter the players in it and I really think it has to be scheme or development but it doesn't add up that the secondary is always the weak link.

Not me. I said QB would be the question mark. Other posters said it would be fine. I don't put the whole blame on him though. We don't throw the ball, and when we have tried he has had zero time. And i have also seen balls hit hands that should have been caught. I put more blame on the line. There is not an excuse you can give to big, strong, experienced lineman at this point. Who knows how the future will play out. In this day and age no one is safe. But you pretty much guaranteed me last year that we had a transfer going out that didnt turn out to be true. So I don't put much merit to it until it happens. From coaching, devolopment , scheme -- something isnt adding up. It is an annual weakness in the secondary.

[SiderBlood]

If you have been watching the same games we’ve all watched, how can you not look at the coaching? all week long the coaches “prepare” them for the following week. in games the coaches call the shots and have failed miserably at that. you have to be put in the right position to succeed as a player. imo that hasn’t happened and then your stars try to do to much and mess up themselves. it has been really ugly.

I don't disagree completely. I'm not at practices, film sessions, workouts, and walk throughs though. Its easy to sit back and immediately point to the coach and say that is the reason. We have had very successful seasons, I have no reason at this point to believe that the coaches can't win ball games. Overall everything is BAD this year. So it very well might fall on coaching, but at the end of the day, players have to play. I have seen little to no one step up and be an on field leader. They all walk around like zombies with zero enthusiasm. So yes coaching does come into play, but there also needs to be some accountability for the guys on the field. Too much talent being wasted right now. Ill go one step further and say it shouldn't matter who is coaching this team. They should have more than one touchdown on skill alone.

[Jawnjkang98]

Wow. Never thought in a million years heading into week 3 we would be looking at 0-3 in the face. I dont know the first thing about Hillsboro this year, but based on our play thus far, I dont think any game on the schedule is a gimme. This might be the most embarrassing season I have witnessed in all of my years supporting this school. Especially when you account for expectations heading into the season. People and myself included talking about competing for the SOC and possibly playing for a regional championship. Shoot, at this point I would be tickled to see more than 7 points on the board. There has been 0 bright spots that would lead me to believe this ship will get turned around either. Some of the worst secondary play I have ever witnessed. Scared arm tackles. Cant throw the ball. Cant catch the ball. Have running backs that should be putting up video game numbers behind these supposedly college level lineman, but cant seem to get a push at the LOS at all. So does this come back to coaching? How do we have talented kids and have been outscored 75-7 in two games. Something better change quick. I don't have a prediction this week. Cross the fingers and hope we look like a respectable football program. Underperformance is an understatement at this point.

West is 4-2 all time against Hillsboro, with the two losses coming in the late 40's.

Los is like burg, big in size, but short on depth, speed, conditioning and athleticism. The LOS needs speed and athleticism in todays game.

[greygoose]

^^^Wasn't you one arguing with me over a month ago how the QB position would be just "fine"? After 2 weeks guess I'm not sounding completely crazy and I will say that I totally agree with you there's no way I would've put money that West had 7 points total after 2 weeks with that OL and those RBs. They best get it figured out because once that OL is gone who knows where West is going to be, I wouldn't be shocked to see a certain player or 2 move out. West secondary has always been really bad and it doesn't matter the players in it and I really think it has to be scheme or development but it doesn't add up that the secondary is always the weak link.

I blame it all on the qb lol. he’s horrible and needs replaced immediately j/k of course. just forget he has only played two varsity games lol. it is called growing pains and they all have them.

If you have actually watched any games and actually know football you would see exactly the problems. *hint* only about 20% of it is on the players. they can only defend on what is called and they can only run the play that is called. tackling needs cleaned up for sure. this the same team as last year minus a couple.

Sounds like something needs to change, 7 points in 2 games that’s terrible. You even said it yourself it’s the same team minus couple guys, now you say there’s going to be growing pains with the QB. You can’t have it every way you want, complain about 7 points. Then we know there’s growing pains, then it’s coaches not putting players in the right spots to succeed. Kind of sounds like the West first 2 weeks, a hot mess and no real direction to turn or positives to lean on. Next 2 weeks are going to be big for west before heading into league plays. Hillsboro will be tough but luckily for West they're not a passing team then again neither is Portsmouth and they did so who knows.

[Olebud]

From the games to replaying the games when getting home and watching it over and over. We are missing to many blocks from our TE & FB play with the formation we are trying to run. I’d love to see #68 put to right guard and bump #65 to right tackle.
Back to the Qb, yeah at times he gets outside his pocket and loses his help, but throws are hitting targets. We have to give him a chance and not just let him throw the ball on 3&8’s. Defense yeah DB’s have to tighten up, but we need to replace couple LB’s with couple cats from the jv squad that’s on that sideline and we would see a big big turn around.

[Olebud]

Does anyone know if Hillsboro does livestream?

[Archer221]

West attempted to throw the ball 20 times against portsmouth. Threw on all 3 downs with play action, deep shots, quick game, and screens. Plenty of times I witnessed players running downfield wide open. To say they threw the ball on obvious downs is not true. Run game they were able to get a handful of chunk plays. But shot themselves in the foot with false start penalties and missed receivers. Defensively they had blown coverages as well as an abundance of missed open field tackles but did get a handful of 3rd and 4th down stops. The kids are playing hard and the coaches are evidently trying to mix up play calling and defense in comparison to week 1. IMO this is an obviously a young team.

To say the results are based on scheme is a huge stretch. Its not about X’s and O’s its Jimmy’s and Joe’s. West only has
3-4 senior starters on both sides of the ball. The results of the past two weeks can be contributed to inexperience and a multitude of first year starters. These first year guys will only continue to mature and progress. The expectations for this team were too high simply because of the 5 returning starters while forgetting the majority of other positions are first year guys. West will struggle this year with the difficult schedule and inexperience.

[SiderBlood]

From the games to replaying the games when getting home and watching it over and over. We are missing to many blocks from our TE & FB play with the formation we are trying to run. I’d love to see #68 put to right guard and bump #65 to right tackle.
Back to the Qb, yeah at times he gets outside his pocket and loses his help, but throws are hitting targets. We have to give him a chance and not just let him throw the ball on 3&8’s. Defense yeah DB’s have to tighten up, but we need to replace couple LB’s with couple cats from the jv squad that’s on that sideline and we would see a big big turn around.

I said almost the same thing. I think line could be fixed with switching some guys around and linebackers need swapped. QB is doing ok with what he has had to deal with.

[Mc1196]

Wow. Never thought in a million years heading into week 3 we would be looking at 0-3 in the face. I dont know the first thing about Hillsboro this year, but based on our play thus far, I dont think any game on the schedule is a gimme. This might be the most embarrassing season I have witnessed in all of my years supporting this school. Especially when you account for expectations heading into the season. People and myself included talking about competing for the SOC and possibly playing for a regional championship. Shoot, at this point I would be tickled to see more than 7 points on the board. There has been 0 bright spots that would lead me to believe this ship will get turned around either. Some of the worst secondary play I have ever witnessed. Scared arm tackles. Cant throw the ball. Cant catch the ball. Have running backs that should be putting up video game numbers behind these supposedly college level lineman, but cant seem to get a push at the LOS at all. So does this come back to coaching? How do we have talented kids and have been outscored 75-7 in two games. Something better change quick. I don't have a prediction this week. Cross the fingers and hope we look like a respectable football program. Underperformance is an understatement at this point.

West is 4-2 all time against Hillsboro, with the two losses coming in the late 40's.

Fairland fan here and I'm not trying to sound mean but your lineman are not college material at all and your secondary I hate to say it there slow

[SiderBlood]

Wow. Never thought in a million years heading into week 3 we would be looking at 0-3 in the face. I dont know the first thing about Hillsboro this year, but based on our play thus far, I dont think any game on the schedule is a gimme. This might be the most embarrassing season I have witnessed in all of my years supporting this school. Especially when you account for expectations heading into the season. People and myself included talking about competing for the SOC and possibly playing for a regional championship. Shoot, at this point I would be tickled to see more than 7 points on the board. There has been 0 bright spots that would lead me to believe this ship will get turned around either. Some of the worst secondary play I have ever witnessed. Scared arm tackles. Cant throw the ball. Cant catch the ball. Have running backs that should be putting up video game numbers behind these supposedly college level lineman, but cant seem to get a push at the LOS at all. So does this come back to coaching? How do we have talented kids and have been outscored 75-7 in two games. Something better change quick. I don't have a prediction this week. Cross the fingers and hope we look like a respectable football program. Underperformance is an understatement at this point.

West is 4-2 all time against Hillsboro, with the two losses coming in the late 40's.

Fairland fan here and I'm not trying to sound mean but your lineman are not college material at all and your secondary I hate to say it there slow

Oh I’m 100 percent on board with ya.

[SiderSammy]

West attempted to throw the ball 20 times against portsmouth. Threw on all 3 downs with play action, deep shots, quick game, and screens. Plenty of times I witnessed players running downfield wide open. To say they threw the ball on obvious downs is not true. Run game they were able to get a handful of chunk plays. But shot themselves in the foot with false start penalties and missed receivers. Defensively they had blown coverages as well as an abundance of missed open field tackles but did get a handful of 3rd and 4th down stops. The kids are playing hard and the coaches are evidently trying to mix up play calling and defense in comparison to week 1. IMO this is an obviously a young team.

To say the results are based on scheme is a huge stretch. Its not about X’s and O’s its Jimmy’s and Joe’s. West only has
3-4 senior starters on both sides of the ball. The results of the past two weeks can be contributed to inexperience and a multitude of first year starters. These first year guys will only continue to mature and progress. The expectations for this team were too high simply because of the 5 returning starters while forgetting the majority of other positions are first year guys. West will struggle this year with the difficult schedule and inexperience.

Such great analysis, you should be a coach it was so good. much better than what us old people who can only watch on live streams, which still nice to have. Inexperience is hard but have to play to get experience, but development has to get better. if I’ve learned anything it is never a coaching error, they are always right. it’s always the players fault because they are the ones playing lol
I sure hope they start playing better. go west

[siderfan46]

Wow. Never thought in a million years heading into week 3 we would be looking at 0-3 in the face. I dont know the first thing about Hillsboro this year, but based on our play thus far, I dont think any game on the schedule is a gimme. This might be the most embarrassing season I have witnessed in all of my years supporting this school. Especially when you account for expectations heading into the season. People and myself included talking about competing for the SOC and possibly playing for a regional championship. Shoot, at this point I would be tickled to see more than 7 points on the board. There has been 0 bright spots that would lead me to believe this ship will get turned around either. Some of the worst secondary play I have ever witnessed. Scared arm tackles. Cant throw the ball. Cant catch the ball. Have running backs that should be putting up video game numbers behind these supposedly college level lineman, but cant seem to get a push at the LOS at all. So does this come back to coaching? How do we have talented kids and have been outscored 75-7 in two games. Something better change quick. I don't have a prediction this week. Cross the fingers and hope we look like a respectable football program. Underperformance is an understatement at this point.

West is 4-2 all time against Hillsboro, with the two losses coming in the late 40's.

Then don't come to the games if its so bad.

[Jrpurdy]

Does anyone know if Hillsboro does livestream?

https://youtube.com/@hillsborocityschoo ... I2WJXA0pXE

[fielddaddy]

West loses this one long season ahead for them.
All the talk of going head to head with Cold Water was a dream now becoming a nightmare.
can they go 5-5 yes but and make the yes playoffs would be demoralizing to a proud program.
I know you have to coach the talent you have but I hate this isn't a very talented team.
I do hope they turn it around and show they can be a very good team but at this moment they are not doing a great job at that.