Steelers vs. Dolphins

[farmer]

I don't know if you all are aware of this, but the NFL has a rule stating that if a ball is fumbled forward, only the player who fumbled can recover it. Otherwise, the ball is placed at the spot of the fumble, whether a teammate or opposing player recovered it. Regardless of who recovered the ball, the Refs got it right according to the rules. The rules are the rules, so quit moaning about it!

stellar game for the Big Creep ? at least 2 fumbles , maybe 3 ? he did throw for 302 or 303 BUT he fumbled the game away and the refs saved his arse. those are plain facts. NFL is going downhill with rules , sanctions, fines etc etc MD

Let me rephrase what I said. He had a great day throwing the ball. However, his fumbles almost cost the Steelers the game. If the Steelers want to be contenders, he needs to be able to hold onto the ball better. After all, he does touch the ball on every offensive play.

That rule is only for the offense in the last 2 mins of the fourth quarter. The defense can recover and advance a fumble anytime.

[Red_Dog]

I don't know if you all are aware of this, but the NFL has a rule stating that if a ball is fumbled forward, only the player who fumbled can recover it. Otherwise, the ball is placed at the spot of the fumble, whether a teammate or opposing player recovered it. Regardless of who recovered the ball, the Refs got it right according to the rules. The rules are the rules, so quit moaning about it!

stellar game for the Big Creep ? at least 2 fumbles , maybe 3 ? he did throw for 302 or 303 BUT he fumbled the game away and the refs saved his arse. those are plain facts. NFL is going downhill with rules , sanctions, fines etc etc MD

Let me rephrase what I said. He had a great day throwing the ball. However, his fumbles almost cost the Steelers the game. If the Steelers want to be contenders, he needs to be able to hold onto the ball better. After all, he does touch the ball on every offensive play.

That rule is only for the offense in the last 2 mins of the fourth quarter. The defense can recover and advance a fumble anytime.

I understand the defense can recover, but not if it goes forward. It was the right call.

[Charge]

Defense can recover if it goes forward, why do you think the ref spent 10 mins explaining they couldn't tell who had possesion for, so no you don't understand, WRONG CALL DOLPHINS GOT HOSED.

[farmer]

It is the right call only when they made the wrong call for it as a TD when the offical did not see the ball cross the TD line. Who can not call it a TD. Then did not follow thur with who recovered the ball. The NFL wants to make itself look like it followed the rules. When they said the replay did not show that a player did not recover the ball quickly. But in this case the player who was the closest to the ball before there was a big pile was also the player who came out of the pile. The excuse they want to use is it could have changed hands many times. Even if so the first person there is the one who recovered it.

The big problem here is the offical did not see the ball cross the TD line. The umpire had the best view since it was right in front of him. Many times you see the officals huddle up and discuss things then make the decision. Especially on a close call. Then this brings in that the offical is from Pittsburg. Which the league is not commenting on. The NFL likes to keep the reviews of officals from the media and fans. While trying to keep the officals seen in a good light.

[Red_Dog]

It doesn't matter who recovered it, the point is he fumbled forward and according to the NFL rulebook, only he can recover. He didn't recover it so it should have been Steelers ball inside the 1.

Defense can recover if it goes forward, why do you think the ref spent 10 mins explaining they couldn't tell who had possesion for, so no you don't understand, WRONG CALL DOLPHINS GOT HOSED.

I understand the rule perfectly. But since you don't let me paint a picture for you. It is called the Holy Roller Rule named after an infamous play in the 70's. The rule states that an offensive player must recover his own fumble if he fumbles forward. Otherwise, the ball is considered down at the spot of the fumble.

I don't know if you are a hater, a Bungals fan, or a Dolphins fan, but stop moaning. The Steelers outplayed them and that's why they lost.

[BBallin fool]

HOW BOUT THEM STEELERS!!!

[Charge]

Red Dog I understand the rule and I know where it came from, I watched the Oakland game that brought the rule into the NFL. I am a Dolphin fan and I am a hater of cheating to win in any sport. The NFL just fined a coach for saying something about a ref, what have they done to the refs that called this game and why have we not heard anything about why two guys from Pittsburgh who were doing a Pittsburgh game? The NFL is quick to hand out punishment to the players and coaches but when it comes to their own people they just try to sweep it under the table. What a joke the NFL is. How bout them Steelers, they should have two loses and not be in first place in their div.

[Red_Dog]

Red Dog I understand the rule and I know where it came from, I watched the Oakland game that brought the rule into the NFL. I am a Dolphin fan and I am a hater of cheating to win in any sport. The NFL just fined a coach for saying something about a ref, what have they done to the refs that called this game and why have we not heard anything about why two guys from Pittsburgh who were doing a Pittsburgh game? The NFL is quick to hand out punishment to the players and coaches but when it comes to their own people they just try to sweep it under the table. What a joke the NFL is. How bout them Steelers, they should have two loses and not be in first place in their div.

The Steelers had nothing to do with the Ref's decision to let the Steelers have the ball and they also had nothing to do with who officiated the game. Bottom line, the players are taught to not let the refs dictate the outcome of the game. Since this was a close game, it was a game that they could dictate. The call could have gone either way. Even if I weren't a Steelers fan, I would be saying the exact same thing. If the Dolphins were so much better than the Steelers, it wouldn't have come down to that now would it? Accept your loss and move on.

[Manwithplan]

Man, the haters. Oh well, hate all you want, for now, the Steelers are in 1st place. HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Charge]

The Dolphins were good enough to beat the Steelers Sunday, just not the Steelers and the refs.

[ace63]

Saddly, I didn't get to watch the game due to hanging drywall in my house. I did however, see the highlights, and Ben did fumble the football before crossing the goalline. The rest is questionable. Some people think that this is the only game ever lost by bad officiating, well it's not, and the Steelers are 5-1. So, as alot of you Bungal fans would say, "it's HISTORY, it's in the PAST",

WELL I GOT SOMETHING TO SAY, FROM A BENGAL FAN. Hope you used screws instead of nails. Nails will back out in time.

[Manwithplan]

Saddly, I didn't get to watch the game due to hanging drywall in my house. I did however, see the highlights, and Ben did fumble the football before crossing the goalline. The rest is questionable. Some people think that this is the only game ever lost by bad officiating, well it's not, and the Steelers are 5-1. So, as alot of you Bungal fans would say, "it's HISTORY, it's in the PAST",

WELL I GOT SOMETHING TO SAY, FROM A BENGAL FAN. Hope you used screws instead of nails. Nails will back out in time.

I screwed it. :122246

[farmer]

It appears that the NFL has had enough with a strain of controversial on-field officiating calls.

FOXSports.com has learned that the league is having a conference call Friday for every member of every officiating team. The purpose of the call is twofold, according to one officiating source — to serve as pep talk, but also to clean up mistakes by the officials.

Sources say a conference call of this nature is rare — if not unprecedented — to have all of the officials involved.

Two high-profile Week 7 rulings may have initiated the conference call.

In a game against the Dolphins, the Steelers' Ben Roethlisberger scrambled out of the pocket and lunged for the end zone late in the fourth quarter. The ball was knocked loose near the goal line and the officials ruled that Roethlisberger had scored a touchdown.

However, a Dolphins player emerged from the end-zone scrum with the football. A replay review determined the ball popped loose before Roethlisberger reached the end zone, and the Dolphins believed they had a touchback. But since the officials initially ruled that Roethlisberger had scored, they didn’t monitor who recovered the ball because it was no longer in play.

Another play in contention is Vikings tight end Visanthe Shiancoe’s apparent touchdown catch in Week 7’s 28-24 loss to the Packers.

Shiancoe made a diving grab in the end zone and appeared to secure the ball as he rolled onto his back. Officials ruled the play a touchdown but overturned the ball on review. Minnesota settled for a field goal and Vikings coach Brad Childress openly criticized the game’s officiating, drawing a $35,000 fine from the NFL.

Carl Johnson, the NFL’s vice president of officiating, was not happy with the entire incident. “We wish the ruling on the field would have stood as a completed catch,” Johnson said this week on NFL Network’s “NFL Total Access.”

[Charge]

Carl Johnson, the NFL’s vice president of officiating, was not happy with the entire incident. “We wish the ruling on the field would have stood as a completed catch,” Johnson said this week on NFL Network’s “NFL Total Access.”







So the league did nothing to the official and fined the coach, that makes a lot of sense. Pro sports make rules that coaches and players aren't aloud to say anything about their officials, so they can turn a game and not get called out on it. One would think after what happened in the NBA a few years ago and that ref saying he wasn't the only one doing it, that the people running pro sports would hold their officials accountable for what they do.

[boilermaker]

Someone call the cops the Fins got robbed!