Steelers vs. Dolphins

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What makes us haters in pointing out some big problems. 2 officals from Pittsburg is just common sense not to have them do the game. Shouldn't the officals kept after the play just to see who came up with the football? They were instructed last year to keep following the ball even if the whistle was blown. They saw the ball came out and knew it would be reviewed. It doesn't matter what team this happened to it was not right. Just because someone does say something that does not put the Steelers in a good light does not mean they are a hater. The Steelers did not win the game it should have been the Dolphins.


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The Steelers played a good game and are 5-1 because of it. Big Ben had a stellar game throwing over 300 yards in just his second game back.

I didn't see the play and all the angles around it, but if there was no clear evidence, how can you automatically give the Dolphins the ball?


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stellar game for the Big Creep ? at least 2 fumbles , maybe 3 ? he did throw for 302 or 303 BUT he fumbled the game away and the refs saved his arse. those are plain facts. NFL is going downhill with rules , sanctions, fines etc etc MD


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Because they came out of the pile with the ball. The same player you saw who jumped on it at first is the one who came out with it.


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thats what I saw also. dolphin lineman got on it, and same guy clearly came out of the pile with it. MD


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The refs botched this up but in a different way.Once the TD was signaled and the whistle blown the ball was dead and no fumble was possible.I think these refs need to read the rules.Glad the Stillers came out on top either way...


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Saddly, I didn't get to watch the game due to hanging drywall in my house. I did however, see the highlights, and Ben did fumble the football before crossing the goalline. The rest is questionable. Some people think that this is the only game ever lost by bad officiating, well it's not, and the Steelers are 5-1. So, as alot of you Bungal fans would say, "it's HISTORY, it's in the PAST",


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It is not questionable when the Miami player comes out with the ball which was probably not shown on replay. As well as being the same player shown on replay to be falling close to the ball. Questionable is the Ref and the offical who made the TD call live in Pittsburg. It doesn't matter who you are a fan of this was very wrong and cost the Dolphins the game. If the officals would have taken the time to determine who came up with the ball instead of waiting on replay.


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I would have to believe the league will highly upset that he officials just seemed quit doing their job and IGNORED a fumble , how can you NOT follow a lost football in a pile ? not 1 single official had a ruling on the field ? the ruling was " we don't know who had it" WTH ?


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WHY WOULD YOU LOOK FOR A FUMBLE AFTER THE TOUCHDOWN SIGNAL WAS GIVEN. you blow your whistle once the ball breaks the plane.


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maybe because IT WASN"T A TOUCHDOWN ? as mentioned before , ref's have been warned and instructed to follow a play until it is dead. they stood around CONFUSED , and screwed the fish out of a W .


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to rub salt in the wound we have to listen to Merrill hodge and "the Chin" tell us how the zebra's got the call right . uggg MD


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All this moaning and whining saying it was a BS call doesn't mean anything, Steelers are 5-1 if you like it or not. GO STEELERS :)


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The statement the ref gave should have been something like this.
After further review, the ball was fumbled and the touchdown, as called, is overturned. However....

...Since the Steelers are one of the NFL cash cows, and the league office would rather see them win,
we are electing not to continue watching the replay to see who recovered the fumble.
Even though the Dolphin player has the ball at the end of the play, we'd really like to see the Steelers win this one, as would the league office.
Therefore, we are awarding the Steelers the ball back, and giving it to them at the 1/2 yard line.
Good day.


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cool cucumber wrote:All this moaning and whining saying it was a BS call doesn't mean anything, Steelers are 5-1 if you like it or not. GO STEELERS :)




What is funny is one of the refs told one of the Dolphin players after the game that the Dolphins recovered the ball. The league is a joke, they want to investigate the players, how about the refs and who got two Pitt refs to do a Pitt game. cc you would be whinning if your team got screwed too.


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The league instructed the officals on having a fast whistle. They had a lot of plays that were the wrong call. They did come out either last year or the year before saying if it was a turnover and replay showed it then it could be recovered by the other team. But that the ball could not be advanced from the recovery point. Which in this case they did not see who came up with the ball.

Even if you take away the fumble they needed to help gain control of the pile of players to ensure the safety of the players. Also to call a penalty on those who are breaking the rules or to throw out those who are fighting.


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good call on that seo fan


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Last night during the Monday night game. The announcers pointed out that one official did not raise his hands because he could not see the ball. They had to wait for the other offical on the other side who could see the ball to call it a TD.
Another one is many times it is clear that it is a TD with a big pile up. Both officals run in so they can see where the ball is before making the decision. This may also include taking time to discuss it before making the call.


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Charge wrote:
cool cucumber wrote:All this moaning and whining saying it was a BS call doesn't mean anything, Steelers are 5-1 if you like it or not. GO STEELERS :)




What is funny is one of the refs told one of the Dolphin players after the game that the Dolphins recovered the ball. The league is a joke, they want to investigate the players, how about the refs and who got two Pitt refs to do a Pitt game. cc you would be whinning if your team got screwed too.
Yeah i know, and I don't mean to be a dick, but here is my argument: If the play is called a TD then the play is over, whistles were blown and everything due to the fact it is impossible to fumble once the ball breaks the plane. Wether or not the ball was recovered by a dolphin or not the play was stopped hence anything after the whistle is not a factor. So it is Pitts ball anyways.


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I don't know if you all are aware of this, but the NFL has a rule stating that if a ball is fumbled forward, only the player who fumbled can recover it. Otherwise, the ball is placed at the spot of the fumble, whether a teammate or opposing player recovered it. Regardless of who recovered the ball, the Refs got it right according to the rules. The rules are the rules, so quit moaning about it! :roll:
ManitouDan wrote:stellar game for the Big Creep ? at least 2 fumbles , maybe 3 ? he did throw for 302 or 303 BUT he fumbled the game away and the refs saved his arse. those are plain facts. NFL is going downhill with rules , sanctions, fines etc etc MD
Let me rephrase what I said. He had a great day throwing the ball. However, his fumbles almost cost the Steelers the game. If the Steelers want to be contenders, he needs to be able to hold onto the ball better. After all, he does touch the ball on every offensive play.


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