Baseball's juicers not the sharpest tools in the shed

Pocket Aces · Post by **Pocket Aces** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:43 pm

Check out the canceled checks at the end of the Mitchell Report.

Note to pro athletes: when purchasing illegal steroids, it's probably best to make cash transactions.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/p ... report.pdf

Pocket Aces · Post by **Pocket Aces** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:57 pm

Here's a list of the juicers.....I've bolded potential HOFers and/or "eyebrow raisers".

Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens ?whoknew? , Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner !, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez, Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood

BlindWhiteHat · Post by **BlindWhiteHat** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:05 pm

What a list. It looks like a few "sure things" may have a tough time getting into the Hall of Fame afterall.

Pocket Aces · Post by **Pocket Aces** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:13 pm

I'm surprised Piazza and ARod not on the list.

Just proves they were a bit smarter at the point of purchase.

MTSWNGRVSG · Post by **MTSWNGRVSG** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:16 pm

I am trying to figure out why people are surprised.

BigMcCauley55 · Post by **BigMcCauley55** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:40 pm

ahahahahaha this is great

rockhillbasketball · Post by **rockhillbasketball** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:58 pm

This is crazy, a lot of people have ruined their careers and reputation today.

Tigercannon71 · Post by **Tigercannon71** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:56 am

You are mistaken Mark McGwire is not on the list of people named. This report is crazy though it leaves tons of questiosn unanswered like what is the punishment that these guys will get or not get. What does these mean for baseball in general? All his report did was open a pandoras box for baseball.

Pocket Aces · Post by **Pocket Aces** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:06 am

tigercannon71 wrote:You are mistaken Mark McGwire is not on the list of people named. .

Nope - I am not mistaken.....I read a lot of the report last night and it may as well be McGwire's biography.....by my count he's on the following pages.

22,64,70,92,108,109,110,113,114,124,125,126,127,132,133,376,377

It's actually pretty interesting reading.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/p ... report.pdf

Tigercannon71 · Post by **Tigercannon71** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:42 am

Pocket Aces wrote:
tigercannon71 wrote:You are mistaken Mark McGwire is not on the list of people named. .

Nope - I am not mistaken.....I read a lot of the report last night and it may as well be McGwire's biography.....by my count he's on the following pages.

22,64,70,92,108,109,110,113,114,124,125,126,127,132,133,376,377

It's actually pretty interesting reading.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/p ... report.pdf

Again his name is not mention on the list of players.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153646
Here is the entire of players caught and how they are linked. McGwire not on that list. I checked out those pages and McGwire is only mentioned in association with his taking of a legal supplement.

farmer · Post by **farmer** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:10 am

No surpirise but why go after those in the past instead of stopping players who are now playing.

MTSWNGRVSG · Post by **MTSWNGRVSG** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:33 am

And think some of them will be in the Hall of Fame but Pete Rose can not get in. Baseball has major problems but over the course of time baseball reflects what society is like at the time.

BlindWhiteHat · Post by **BlindWhiteHat** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:44 pm

I'd say the writers who vote for the Hall will have to change their minds on a few players based on yesterday's news. Everyone wanted to ban Bonds and McGwire for their possible involvement in juicing. Now that Clemens has been grouped in with these guys, I'll bet things change. I'd look for all these guys to miss on the first ballot but eventually make the Hall on the 2nd or 3rd ballot.

MTSWNGRVSG · Post by **MTSWNGRVSG** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:20 pm

Nice post BlindWhiteHat-this will be interesting how it plays out. Just about all levels of play and sports has a problem with roids.

tomcat fan · Post by **tomcat fan** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:32 pm

what can we make of all of Roger Clemems' accomplishments ? especially since the 1st time he supposively took steriods was almost 10 yrs ago

BigMcCauley55 · Post by **BigMcCauley55** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:45 pm

i think they need to take that report and shove it up Mitchell's @$$

he was just showing it off like haha busted

if I was Bud i would seriously tell that guy to get a life

Leave the active players alone and the retired ones well o well stuff happens and it wasnt offically illegal to take that stuff until like 05 wasnt it?