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Last weeks win was pretty good. But it came off the hands of DA.

With Holmgren running the show,And 11 picks, IMO things will be much better for the Browns next season.

Reviewing Holmgren's remarks in his first presser, he said he has not made up his mind about the coach but that he would view all things in the context of the whole season, not just the last three games. And, he is adamant that the Browns run the west-coast offense. Mangini is quoted making some disparaging remarks about the west-coast offenese. Bye-bye Mangeniuos. Holmgren also said some "tough" decisions have to be made about the QB situation. Bye-bye Quinn and Anderson. He also has not ruled out coaching down the line. So......Holmgren will put the pieces he wants in place, then take over as coach in the next few years and in his mind, win a Super Bowl from the sidelines. That's a lot to chew on right now. Go read his press conference and argue with me on this.

I don't see Holmgren coaching again, but I do think that Quinn or Anderson will be gone after this year and another QB gets drafted. I think the Browns will have a new coach next year without a dout.

I say trade a couple of draft picks for a player or 2 to help out for next season.

I don't like Mangenious but I say give him another year.

I love what the Browns are doing with young and hungry players getting their chance. I wouldn't mind seeing them get even younger next year if we can select the right type of players. Tell me fellow Browns fans that you haven't been excited by what you've seen developing in December? I, for one, didn't see it coming this year. Don't spend money on high-dollar free agents who only want paid for what they accomplished with their former team. Do it right this time, please!?!?

i think mangini, should sign a new lomg term contract. i like him , as much as i did lloyd carr. really hated to see him go. go bengals.

The reds have sadly taken themselves out.

the reds are sad by their own hands, every time we get talent we trade it away for cash, or future draft picks, we've been rebuilding with the reds since 1990. and i'm sick of it , as much as anybody.

The Browns are going to run the Wishbone next year! Don't worry all will be right on the lake!

Flash to Mike Holmgren....don't start you're regime this way...PAY THE MAN!

Just reported...Mangini and the entire staff will return next season.

gahs4ever wrote: No fan of any other professional sports franchise has ever had to put up what the Browns fans of the past 50 years have had to endure.

I'd say there are NFL fans in Detroit who would argue that point with you. They've won a single playoff game since 1957!

2-30 the last two years! How long did they suffer at the hands of Matt Millen?

this is how we lost tj houshmenzadah, he was out preforming chad ocho ignorant every year and making 2 million a year, while ocho stinko was making 12 million a year.

The way the offense was most of the year and the QB play was all year why not look at changing a offensive coach? The Browns defense played well at the end of the season and Harrisson ran great. If the Browns do not reward Cribbs soon players would not want to look at playing for the Browns. Only time will tell how things will show and how Mangini and Holmgren work together.

Go Browns.

If Cribbs leaves the Browns he will get PAID. With Mangini coming back for another year things should be fun. THE WHOLE STAFF COMING BACK???? REALLY????

Since the Browns aren't willing to pay Cribbs maybe the Bengals will pony up when he hits the market!

Cribs isn't worth much more than 2 mill a year.

Holmgren is correct in saying take it or leave it.

Cribbs has 3 years remaining, and he can either play, or not get any money, as NFL checks are based
on game weeks played. No play, no pay!

Now, I would imagine that 1.4 mill was a starting spot, and they will negotiate from there.

Cribbs is the best option Cleveland has, but a a special teams guy and someone with 6-10 offensive touches per game in
the offensive gameplan it's not worth the money they are seeking.

Now, if they give him a base pay, and load it with escalator clauses, such as a bonus for Pro-Bowl, a bonus for number
of receptions, a bonus for number of rushing yards, and a bonus for number of non-return touchdowns. Then
he will be getting his pay based on being more than just a return guy, and he'll be earning it.

He has three years left, and he's not going to sit out for 3 years!!!

Saying take it or leave it is a common way to get a guy to come to the barganing table and realize he's not getting
what he wants.

It's just like any other negotiation, Browns send a lowball offer, and Cribbs send out an offer that is just stupid.
Somewhere in between is the landing zone.