Brady Hoke to be named as head coach at Michigan

[Orestes]

The key for Hoke won't be his ability to get bodies on the Michigan roster. The key will be his ability to beat OSU in Ohio, not for the guys without OSU offers, but for the Braxton Miller, Steve Miller, Doran Grant, etc..

Obviously, he is scrambling now, so not much can be said about his performance.

[seofan_via_dublin]

Ding, we have a winner.

[Peake]

I think you will change your tune if that QB turns out to be Brees caliber. I think have a qb v not having a qb is a win.

I think it is silly to even make a remark about the highlight of his era, considering he has been recruiting for all of a week and three days now.

I agree with Orestes, but I don't think you will see him go after Braxton Miller types imo.

[seofan_via_dublin]

If he turns out to be like Drew Breese then good for him, so Michigan will be back to only losing twice a year. Purdue hasn't been getting guys of Drew's calibre for awhile now, so stealing a Purdue QB hardly strikes fear in the hearts of anyone.

Like I said, glad to know the streak will continue!

[seofan_via_dublin]

If Hoke doesn't want to "go after guys like Miller" that's his loss. If you want quality at the QB spot, why not go after one of the highest rated QBs that just happens to live within 3 hours of your campus!

[Orestes]

I think you will change your tune if that QB turns out to be Brees caliber. I think have a qb v not having a qb is a win.

I think it is silly to even make a remark about the highlight of his era, considering he has been recruiting for all of a week and three days now.

I agree with Orestes, but I don't think you will see him go after Braxton Miller types imo.

I didn't mean necessarily the style of player. I meant winning head-to-head recruiting match-ups against OSU for the guys OSU covets. In particular, the guys who haven't necessarily been huge UM fans their whole lives, but are simply not total OSU locks.

In the past, OSU and Michigan were in battles over nearly every big-time player in Ohio. Now, OSU takes who they want from Ohio, except for the occasional huge UM fan or Catholic kid to ND. UM takes the guys MSU, Illinois, and Purdue usually battle over.

[Peake]

dubs give me a break. The guy has been recruiting for a week. You won't even be able to judge him as a recruiter until next year.

Re Braxton Miller, yea I know what you meant orestes just busting your chops. I agree with you 100%. I think having a DC who coached Ray Lewis and company will certainly help sell the program. It has already helped to bring in the defensive kids we have.

I think he understand that 100%, his first day recruiting was not spent in Michigan, rather it was spent in Cincy seeing Colerain, Elder, Winton Woods, Moller, etc.

BTW, Frank Clark, Glenville, OH LB is favoring UM, uh oh. A Glenville kid actually considering UM, what is the world coming to?

[Peake]

From what I have heard, re QB's, Hoke wants Andrew Luck types that are pass first but kids who can tuck it and run if they need to.

[Just_A_Fan]

lets only hope michigan can get QBs like Luck and be back on top

[seofan_via_dublin]

Peake, I understand that he is fighting to get the scraps available before next Wednesday, and sometimes that involves a guy who is iffy on his verbal. I remember though when RR came in and with a short time to get his first class, became a snake oil salesman and stole guys from Joe Tiller.

He got blasted by his fellow coaches and big 10 media guys for doing so, I'm just wondering where the outrage is this time.

[Peake]

Woody did a majority of his damage until Bo arrived and things changed fast.

Bo won 13 Big Ten titles, 10 Rose Bowls, top 10 every year in the 1970's, 96 wins in the 70's more then any other team. Bo was 10-9-1 v OSU.

Mo was 4-1-1 v OSU and went to two Rose Bowls two big ten titles.

Lloyd was 5-1 v OSU, with three Big Ten titles and a National Championship, and an Orange Bowl win until Tress showed up.

So....Since the arrival of Bo Michigan is 19-11-2, with 18 big ten titles, a National Title, two Heisman winners, blah blah.

Tressel came in and ruined it

I would call that pretty good times in Ann Arbor from 1969-2000

I agree we have had a ton of success in the state of Ohio, but don't forget Larry Foote, Lamar Woodley, Jake Long, Jarred Irons, Jim Harbaugh, Brandon Graham, Tyrone Wheathly, Braylon Edwards, David Harris, Ty Law all from Michigan. Players from other states aside from Ohio: Steve Hutchinson, Chris Perry, David Baas, Tom Brady, Marlon Jackson, Leon Hall, Alan Branch, Chad Heene, Mike Hart, Tim Biakabatuka, Bryan Griese, Steve Breaston, Mercury Hayes, Tai Streets, do I really have to go on. Point being, we would not be Indiana.

[Peake]

The only reason Michigan has any success at all over your time frame is the hiring of Cooper

Ok. I am 28 so my time consists of a year or two of Bo, Mo, Lloyd, and then RR.

I think you are wearing those scarlet and gray glasses right about now.

Again, this is why I am not posting as much on here, it gets turned into an OSU thread.

Michigan has been darn good for a very very long time, feel free to try and trash that for some reason. During Bo's years Michigan won 13-20 Big Ten Titles, in my book that is really good.

During Mo's years Michigan Michigan won 3 conference titles in 5 years. His winning percentage was .758

During Lloyd's years Michigan won 5 conference titles in 12 years along with a shared National Championship. winning percentage of .756

Should I apologize because we were really good for 50 years before Ohio State became legit?

[Peake]

I am not over sensitive, I just enjoy have good conversations that actually pertain to the current coach.

Saying THE ONLY REASON WE HAD SUCCESS IS COOPER, OR ASKING WHEN THE ACTUAL GLORY DAYS ARE, OR WE WOULD BE INDIANA IF NOT FOR OHIO RECRUITS, imo makes this thread no longer enjoyable to debate. All of those statements are all false.

Cooper was a big reason for our success, but his teams didn't just roll over or forfeit, UM had to beat very good OSU teams. Bo, Mo, and Lloyd all had winning records v OSU (Lloyd until Tressel came along). From 1969-2000 Michigan was very good, and I think just about anyone would like to have that kind of success.

What would happen if we didn't have California recruits, or Michigan recruits, or Penn recruits? We did so I don't know. The good thing is Michigan recruits very well nationally, so I don't think we will ever know nor does it even make sense to discuss imo. I think it is pretty disrespectful to consider UM Indiana.

Anyways....

[seofan_via_dublin]

I think at least one of our Buckeye fans is enjoying writing revisionist history!

[Peake]

I just don't feel the need to embellish I guess. I have a lot of respect for Ohio State and I am probably the most level headed Michigan poster when it comes to both UM and Ohio State. If I could hire 1 coach to coach UM it would probably be Tressel.

If grandma had nuts she'd be grandpa. The history is exactly that, history.

I enjoy going back and forth but at some point we have to be adults and call a spade a spade. UM has been darn good from 1969-2000, and even with the struggles to OSU, they were still pretty good until 2008. For the most part they were not as good as OSU during the 2001-2007 seasons, but I am not going to feel bad about what they accomplished.

[Peake]

Michigan picked up another commit, Chris Bryant (OSU offer btw came in late), picked UM over Zona, Pitt, and Illinois. Ranked #20 OG in the country, UAAA Game participant. That makes #17.

Visiting tonight is #17 DT in the country.

[boilermaker]

The tide is turning ....GO BLUE!!!!

[Peake]

Michigan is rumored to close this class with TE Chris Barnett #16 and Arkansas commit (offers from Miami, FL, USC, Alabama), #17 DT Darrion Cooper, and MI RB Thomas Rawls (big back 6'1, 210).

[Peake]

Thomas Rawls committed today. Rawls is a 3* RB from Michigan, big back, 6'1, 210.

[Orestes]

Not that is changes his abilities as a player either way, but this is what Allen Trieu said about Chris Bryant to my direct question about receiving an OSU offer:

"Late interest in Bryant, widely reported that he was offered. He told me it was a we-want-you-here type verbal offer. He was not willing to tell me he was offered until it was in writing, which it never came, so NO, no Ohio State offer."