Columbus Dispatch- 4/25/11 More Tressell reading

[blue53]

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[eagles73Taylor]

Doesn't look good for Coach Tressel. Cam Newton has now set the bar for how to get around sanctions, have a family member do it for you and claim total ignorance of the actions. Player "A" at a major university at a family function, "hey I am going to lay my National Championship ring right here on the coffee table, sure hope no one picks it up, sells it and anonomously leaves the money in an unmarked envelope under my pillow!" LOL

Thats how I would do it anyway!

[seofan_via_dublin]

The notice of allegations states nothing new, it's simply the official start to the punishment phase.

[seofan_via_dublin]

The NCAA report says that they are not holding OSU responsible for the transgressions, as they did not know about them, and once they did, they did their job and reported it.

They are holding Tressel fully responsible for this, as they should.

Oh, and ESPN often doesn't know what they are reporting as they no longer report news, they make it!

[Steely Dan]

The day of reckoning is coming near, and Coach Tressel may not feel loved once the NCAA is done with him. Lying by omission is still lying, period.

[seofan_via_dublin]

And everyone up here sees it the same way.

We all know he's at fault, just waiting for a JUST punishment.

[dazed&confused]

I just wish he would say, "I lied to the NCAA and to my bosses at Ohio State. I tried to cover for some idiot kids who thought they were entitled. If I could do it again, I'd suspend them all immediately because this is an ugly scar on my otherwise good reputation. But I didn't and I can't change it now so I'm placing myself fully at the mercy of the NCAA and OSU. I will take whatever punishment either of them may deem appropriate, even if that means forfeiting my job. If, after final punishment is rendered, Gene Smith and Gordon Gee still wish me to coach, let that be the final word in all of this."

[BBallin fool]

Big OHIO STATE Fan. But never was a fan of Coach Tressell!!!

[boilermaker]

Id say he's gone and sanctions for the Buckeyes.

[Chieftain]

I've said this elsewhere , so not new, but heres the case --

OSU, the employer first suspended him for two games and a fine. Tressel did them one better and took a 5 game suspension and $250,000 fine. For him, the punsihment is over as far as OSU the employer goes. Reason is a legal one -- double jeopardy. They can't punish him again or more.

The NCAA is limited as to what they can do as they don't employ Tressel. They also have "standards" of punishment that have previously been set. They are somewhat limited in what they can do to Tressel and since OSU hasn't been found guilty of anything, the NCAA is limited here too.

My sleuths in Columbus assure that Tressel will NEVER be fired for this. Other than some media types trying to make a big deal out of this, its about over as the fat lady is warming up. The NCAA may start to look foolish since they knew and still let the players play in a bowl game THEY SANCTIONED. How many years left on the Tressel contract with Ohio St. ? lol

[Charge]

Looks like ESPN isn't the only one making news, it is all over Fox.

[seofan_via_dublin]

The "world wide leader" and the "world wide follower"!

ESPN and FOX can spin whatever they want, but the report still says nothing new, and it is the formal end to the investigation.

[seofan_via_dublin]

By not hitting OSU with failure to monitor or lack of control, the NCAA has put the blame solely on Tressel, and acknowledged that OSU acted as they should have once knowledge was attained of the situation.

The NCAA will hammer Tress, and likely take away last year.

But they will likely not slam the school, and speculation that they will is speculation by grizzled media, and should be ignored.

[Bleeding Red]

I still think this is the start to the end of the Tressel era at OSU. Probably not this year, but I see the university using this against him at contract negotiations.

I have been a Tressel fan. I get discouraged when he sits on a lead, but the man can coach. Up to this instance, he has a great reputation. On one hand I can see why he did it. He was told to NOT report this because it was under investigation from the FBI (the tat shop). They didnt want to blow their investigation.

On the other hand, I can see why so many fans are upset at his actions. He did lie, period.

The bottom line is this: If he makes it through the first 5 games of the year unbeaten, he has a very good opportunity to run the table and go to another NC game. If he wins a National Championship THIS YEAR, all of this speculation and allegations will be dealt with and over with.

Winning seems to erase the minds of critics and doubters.

[CLane]

I've said this elsewhere , so not new, but heres the case --

OSU, the employer first suspended him for two games and a fine. Tressel did them one better and took a 5 game suspension and $250,000 fine. For him, the punsihment is over as far as OSU the employer goes. Reason is a legal one -- double jeopardy. They can't punish him again or more.

The NCAA is limited as to what they can do as they don't employ Tressel. They also have "standards" of punishment that have previously been set. They are somewhat limited in what they can do to Tressel and since OSU hasn't been found guilty of anything, the NCAA is limited here too.

My sleuths in Columbus assure that Tressel will NEVER be fired for this. Other than some media types trying to make a big deal out of this, its about over as the fat lady is warming up. The NCAA may start to look foolish since they knew and still let the players play in a bowl game THEY SANCTIONED. How many years left on the Tressel contract with Ohio St. ? lol

The notice of allegations states nothing new, it's simply the official start to the punishment phase.

I agree with both of these posts 100%. ESPN is blowing this way out of proportion. Ole Herby is officially a POS in my eyes for jumping on the bandwagon.

The whole situation is about "lying"/"failure to report"......that is old news, I'm not sure where all this new fervor is coming from just b/c we are at the beginning of NCAA's process. All of the "new" info is either not pertinent (FBI phone call) to the issue or explainable.

Personally, I would rather weather a USC-like $h!t-storm and keep JT than find someone else that might not work out. Does anyone remember the under-achieving talent that John Cooper had???? JT wins 2+ National Championships during the 90's if he were at the helm.

Plus, I think this whole situation will help recruiting.....listen to this pitch: "I will fight for your son with everything I have, even my own reputation and honor. I can't break any rules any more, but I assure you, the motivation and love for my team is still there, stronger than ever."

The only thing that scares me, is I've been wrong about this situation about every time I open my mouth/type my thoughts.......we'll see, haha. Go Bucks!

[seofan_via_dublin]

GAHS, the form filled out in September is old news too. It's the key part in the NCAAs case, and the biggest mistake Tressel made.

[therepublican]

I am pretty sure this will be the end for Jim Tressell. Wish OSU would just make a move NOW rather than drag it out to see what their options will be. Try and save some dignitiy for those players who are busting their rear-ends right now in practice to salvage the team's year. Again, I put this on the arrogant Pryor..and Posey (the supposed team leaders). Their actions have started all this. Tressell, although he did lie, was trying to salvage (what I believe was) a bowl game for the other 99% percent of the team who had nothing to do with the crap a few players got into. I truly can't stand Pryor, I think he is a narcisist who only cares about himself, and if he thought about his team for one second he would have said "guys we can't be doing what we are doing...we gotta stop before anything bad happens and play football." but never once did he think about anything but himself. Some people might argue it wasn't all him, but dangit he is the leader of that team..bottom line.

[Charge]

CLane, Herbie is not the only former player to side against Tressel, both Robert Smith and Chris Spielman weren't pleased with what is going on at Ohio State.

[FANOSPORTS]

Let any of us Lie or withhold information from our boss and place of employment and see how long it would take for them to fire us. These coaches anymore are just "circus ringmasters" that are overpaid to entertain us at each big time university, at the states expense of course and with very few "athletes" obtaining degrees by the time they leave the schools. Has anyone checked out just tuition for in-state students lately, what a joke and it's quickly getting worse. (Let alone room & board, lab fees and books). The professors, adjuncts and chairs are the ones that should be making big dollars in academia but I keep forgetting that most of these DI athletes don't really come for an education anyway. Oh, well I'm done venting now.

[dazed&confused]

Tressel 9- Michigan 1. Next question!