The Riepo Man wrote:We need to stop playing these bushleague teams early on just because it is alumni day or whatever.
We can't help the Big 10 part of the schedule, and outside of Florida, the Buckeyes have a non-conference schedule that makes other teams look like they are scheduling cupcakes.
Texas, USC, Miami, Tennesse, VTech, what more do you want.
That shows rose colored glasses right there.
Try posting the cupcake non-league schedule coach little game has given us each year he has been there and not just one game per year.
I do not cate what other teams do we are talking Ohio State here.
Well... at least we know who cares about JT's development of quality young men and the fact that he has created a program that leads the Big Ten in All-Academic selections each year.
At least we know who is with JT now. At least we know who will truly feel good when JT takes OSU back to the top.
I just hope no one breaks an ankle jumping off of the bandwagon...
Texas for 2 years and USC for 2 years...I want consistant tough non-confrence top notch teams...not Ohio, Akron, and Youngstown State...Give me 2-3 games against SEC or BIG12 teams. We dont have to start out with the big boys just ease your way into it.
Orestes wrote:Well... at least we know who cares about JT's development of quality young men and the fact that he has created a program that leads the Big Ten in All-Academic selections each year.
At least we know who is with JT now. At least we know who will truly feel good when JT takes OSU back to the top.
I just hope no one breaks an ankle jumping off of the bandwagon...
I love the Bucks but I will not ever be a "yes fan" an d agree with everything that is being done.
The Riepo Man wrote:Texas for 2 years and USC for 2 years...I want consistant tough non-confrence top notch teams...not Ohio, Akron, and Youngstown State...Give me 2-3 games against SEC or BIG12 teams. We dont have to start out with the big boys just ease your way into it.
2010 Miami 2011 @ Miami 2012 Cal 2013 @ Cal 2014 Viginia Tech 2015 @ Virginia Tech 2016 @ Oklahoma 2017 Oklahoma 2018 @ Tennesee 2019 Tennessee
Go take a look at what the teams in the Pac 10, Big East, SEC, ACC, Big 12 are doing, it's no better and most times worse than OSU's non-conference schedule. OSU has consistantly finished the season with a top 15 rating in strength of schedule. Like I said, we can't help the Big 10 right now, but those things are cyclical and the Big 10 will be better sooner rather than later.
The Riepo Man wrote:Texas for 2 years and USC for 2 years...I want consistant tough non-confrence top notch teams...not Ohio, Akron, and Youngstown State...Give me 2-3 games against SEC or BIG12 teams. We dont have to start out with the big boys just ease your way into it.
2010 Miami 2011 @ Miami 2012 Cal 2013 @ Cal 2014 Viginia Tech 2015 @ Virginia Tech 2016 @ Oklahoma 2017 Oklahoma 2018 @ Tennesee 2019 Tennessee
Go take a look at what the teams in the Pac 10, Big East, SEC, ACC, Big 12 are doing, it's no better and most times worse than OSU's non-conference schedule. OSU has consistantly finished the season with a top 15 rating in strength of schedule. Like I said, we can't help the Big 10 right now, but those things are cyclical and the Big 10 will be better sooner rather than later.
That's a nice part of the picture but again not the whole picture.
I don't agree with everything JT does. However, there is a big difference between arguing details and calling your coach "little game" when he has done nothing but succeed. That's called hopping off the bandwagon.
May I ask you... are you at the level of Jim Tressel in your own field? I wonder if you hold yourself to the same standards of excellence.
Also, step back to 2000. OSU was 2-10-1 against Michigan in the last 13 and had played for 0 national titles while winning 4 Big Ten Championships (zero outright) during that same time period.
When JT was hired, if someone had told you that in 8 seasons, OSU would be 7-1 against Michigan, with 5 Big Ten titles (2 outright), 3 national championship game appearances, and 1 national champion, all while leading the Big Ten nearly each season in Academic All-Big Ten selections... How would you have responded?
Oh wait, your feelings get hurt because ESPN makes fun of 3 or 4 losses they selectively highlight over an 8 year time frame, or Joe Redneck watches Mark May and tells you that OSU doesn't have any speeeeeedddd. So he is "little game" and should hose the whole staff.
Orestes wrote:I don't agree with everything JT does. However, there is a big difference between arguing details and calling your coach "little game" when he has done nothing but succeed. That's called hopping off the bandwagon.
May I ask you... are you at the level of Jim Tressel in your own field? I wonder if you hold yourself to the same standards of excellence.
Also, step back to 2000. OSU was 2-10-1 against Michigan in the last 13 and had played for 0 national titles while winning 4 Big Ten Championships (zero outright) during that same time period.
When JT was hired, if someone had told you that in 8 seasons, OSU would be 7-1 against Michigan, with 5 Big Ten titles (2 outright), 3 national championship game appearances, and 1 national champion, all while leading the Big Ten nearly each season in Academic All-Big Ten selections... How would you have responded?
Oh wait, your feelings get hurt because ESPN makes fun of 3 or 4 losses they selectively highlight over an 8 year time frame, or Joe Redneck watches Mark May and tells you that OSU doesn't have any speeeeeedddd. So he is "little game" and should hose the whole staff.
To make it easy on you I will be typing this really slow for youIF I JUMP OFF ANY BANDWAGON I WILL POST IT JUST LIKE THIS FOR YOU.I AM A LIFETIME BUCKEYE FAN AND WILL ALWAYS BE JUST THAT. 2-MY FEELINGS DO NOT GET HURT BECAUSE OF WHAT ESPN SAYS EVEN WHEN THEY GET IT RIGHT.
The Riepo Man wrote:Texas for 2 years and USC for 2 years...I want consistant tough non-confrence top notch teams...not Ohio, Akron, and Youngstown State...Give me 2-3 games against SEC or BIG12 teams. We dont have to start out with the big boys just ease your way into it.
2010 Miami 2011 @ Miami 2012 Cal 2013 @ Cal 2014 Viginia Tech 2015 @ Virginia Tech 2016 @ Oklahoma 2017 Oklahoma 2018 @ Tennesee 2019 Tennessee
Go take a look at what the teams in the Pac 10, Big East, SEC, ACC, Big 12 are doing, it's no better and most times worse than OSU's non-conference schedule. OSU has consistantly finished the season with a top 15 rating in strength of schedule. Like I said, we can't help the Big 10 right now, but those things are cyclical and the Big 10 will be better sooner rather than later.
That's a nice part of the picture but again not the whole picture.
Then what is your whole picture, why should OSU go out and keep the top notch teams they've scheduled, and then add Mid to Upper level teams from other BCS conferences, WHEN NOBODY ELSE DOES IT!
What is your answer, you seem great at pimp slapping the program, how would you fix it.
seofan_via_dublin wrote:Then what is your whole picture, why should OSU go out and keep the top notch teams they've scheduled, and then add Mid to Upper level teams from other BCS conferences, WHEN NOBODY ELSE DOES IT!
What is your answer, you seem great at pimp slapping the program, how would you fix it.
Most top 10 teams do not schedule many non confrence BCS teams because the SEC and BIG12 seem to be full of them and they already play plenty during confrence play...we have Northwestern, who has been getting better but still not there...and Indiana, and Purdue
seofan_via_dublin wrote:Then what is your whole picture, why should OSU go out and keep the top notch teams they've scheduled, and then add Mid to Upper level teams from other BCS conferences, WHEN NOBODY ELSE DOES IT!
What is your answer, you seem great at pimp slapping the program, how would you fix it.
Most top 10 teams do not schedule many non confrence BCS teams because the SEC and BIG12 seem to be full of them and they already play plenty during confrence play...we have Northwestern, who has been getting better but still not there...and Indiana, and Purdue
LOL. NW went toe to toe with Missouri.
NW would destroy A&M that you listed above.
No college football team plays good to great teams week in and week out. Doing so would be stupid in the BCS system.
USC can't even go undefeated and they don't play a schedule nearly as tough as you are recommending.
The coaching staff needs to change their game plan-What they are doing now does not work when going against the better teams.
Upgrade the schedule playing Y-Town State does not help nor does playing teams in the mac especailly when you are cupcake loaded already.
Start recruiting lineman who come from a passing scheme the o-line is horrible at best at pass blocking.
Speed All around especially on the line
Go ahead and rip on those but ask yourself this beofre you do. What is the difference in me questioning what is going on now and you questioning my thoughts.
The fact is now in the national media OHIO STATE IS A JOKE AND THE RECORD IN BIG GAMES SHOWS THIS TO BE TRUE.
Actually, I made a 800 mile drive the day after the Texas game and listened to lots of sports radio. To my surprise, they were all speaking highly of OSU and how they "showed they are among the college football elite." You are listening selectively.
I agree the line needs to be better. The pass blocking was better.
Speed. No. Colt McCoy said OSU was the biggest, strongest, and fastest defense they had faced all year. Maybe a speed upgrade at the WR spot, but that is there, it is just young.
The scheme. Personally, I want OSU to be a run-first team. I just want them to disguise where the run is going a bit better. Also, it needs to be blocked better.
Plus, but could you refresh me on OSU's offensive scheme against Florida, LSU and Texas?
If I remember correctly, OSU went 4 and 5-wide almost exclusively against UF. The one drive where they went I-form and ran the ball, they had a beautiful TD drive. So, they killed themselves by trying to play aggressively and spreading the ball around.
As for LSU, I seem to remember OSU moving the ball quite well, but there was an INT, a dropped TD pass, another INT, and then OSU was playing from behind and forced to abandon the plan. The run was the bread and butter and Beanie was ripping off 7 yards per carry. Watch again, and when OSU could be balanced, Boeckman was quite sharp as well.
As for the UT game, I don't seem to remember OSU sitting on the ball. I actually seem to remember our frosh QB catching a TD. I also remember chucking the ball deep downfield on a 3rd and 3 but Robo was "grabbed" on the attempted catch. Finally, I also seem to remember OSU going primarily from the shotgun formation with 4 and 5 wide. Please describe this "scheme" that was used against Texas and how it is outdated.
The scheme against Texas was not outdated but you are going to set here and tell me that you think a team can change what they do on offense in a few weeks time and then go up against one of the better teams in the nation.
There are few teams, if any who can change what they do all season long and expect it to work well for one game especially when they are going up against a top ranked team.
If, Ohio State was changing their base offense to battle a cup cake like Youngstown State then yes it could have worked.
newarkcatholicfan wrote:The bottom line what they are doing is not working.
Against LSU they were beaten physically badly on the line
Against Tex I could have completed passes with the cushion OSU was giving the tex receivers.
The Gators were so much faster it was sad.
LSU - agree
UT - How anyone could complain about that defensive effort is amazing. Seriously. I mean.. seriously...
Gators - It looked it. But how does a team look when they have had their head up their arses for 52 days? You need focus and preparation to react quickly on the field. Arkansas and Tenn played plenty fast enough for the Gators that season. OSU's Big Ten brothers handled those two teams. The UF game is the source of your continued woes to this day, and is still clearly the worst prepared game a JT team has ever played. That effort or lack thereof was stunning, and it still is... A good effort in that game, win or lose, and no one cares about LSU or USC. In 2007, it would have been, "how amazing is it that OSU can rebuild like that... blah blah blah..." Two of my friends work in the medium to upper levels of ESPN, I know how their machine runs.
As for Texas game offense... OSU just threw the ball a bit more frequently and added the Todd Boeckman wrinkle.. most of the "woe is me" fans on the Scout board are saying JT didn't change anything on offense for the UT game and that is why they are mad. You guys need to get the club motto on the same page.
newarkcatholicfan wrote:The bottom line what they are doing is not working.
Against LSU they were beaten physically badly on the line
Against Tex I could have completed passes with the cushion OSU was giving the tex receivers.
The Gators were so much faster it was sad.
LSU - agree
UT - How anyone could complain about that defensive effort is amazing. Seriously. I mean.. seriously...
Gators - It looked it. But how does a team look when they have had their head up their arses for 52 days? You need focus and preparation to react quickly on the field. Arkansas and Tenn played plenty fast enough for the Gators that season. OSU's Big Ten brothers handled those two teams. The UF game is the source of your continued woes to this day, and is still clearly the worst prepared game a JT team has ever played. That effort or lack thereof was stunning, and it still is... A good effort in that game, win or lose, and no one cares about LSU or USC. In 2007, it would have been, "how amazing is it that OSU can rebuild like that... blah blah blah..." Two of my friends work in the medium to upper levels of ESPN, I know how their machine runs.
As for Texas game offense... OSU just threw the ball a bit more frequently and added the Todd Boeckman wrinkle.. most of the "woe is me" fans on the Scout board are saying JT didn't change anything on offense for the UT game and that is why they are mad. You guys need to get the club motto on the same page.
You can not tell me the secondary wasn't giving the TEXAS receivers way too much cushion. Even the guys on tv brought this up. My mom who knows little about football called me and ask why they were doing this?
