Michigans new records this year!

[Peake]

You caught nothing. I am referring to the action of clinging to something. We have not discussed sports for days because of an issue that someone refuses to just let be. Someone is clinging to a subject and won't let it go. Hence ---stage-5-clinger. I am referring to the action of the person in terms of not being able to let something go, but not quite in the same connotation as the movie, yuck!

I was just trying to amuse myself on the account of being an alleged plagiarizer(for about the bazillionth time) in the blogisphere---message board world. I am just trying to move on and have conversation without the same thing being repeated for the ump-teenth time.

I am loyal to this board because it was around when I started my career, now I am not getting much out of it these days, and it has only to do with a choosen few posters.

[Sue E. Side]

If you didn't realize I was joking. I just remember that moving and had to do it.

[Peake]

That's my bad

[seofan_via_dublin]

The quality of college sports related discussions has gone down on this forum.

Circumstances that have taken some of the good posters away from the site,
combined with the discovery of the college sports forum by devotees of the chat
threads, have turn many of the threads here into non-sports related discussions
of personal issues.

I suggest that those who wish to argue about a persons perceived personal character
instead of the world of college athletics, go back to the chat and politics forums, and
spam each other there.

Or, at least leave that posting culture behind when you enter this forum, and
keep the discussions revelant to college sports.

I readily await the negative responses toward this post,
when you type it, keep in mind, this statement was made for you.

[ballparent]

The quality of college sports related discussions has gone down on this forum.

Circumstances that have taken some of the good posters away from the site,
combined with the discovery of the college sports forum by devotees of the chat
threads, have turn many of the threads here into non-sports related discussions
of personal issues.

I suggest that those who wish to argue about a persons perceived personal character
instead of the world of college athletics, go back to the chat and politics forums, and
spam each other there.

Or, at least leave that posting culture behind when you enter this forum, and
keep the discussions revelant to college sports.

I readily await the negative responses toward this post,
when you type it, keep in mind, this statement was made for you.

I will assume you mean me and I'll respond, if you didn't then excuse my post. I agree 100 percent that this forum is to be about the discussion of sports and something I did my best to do. What I would like to ask is why when a certain poster verbally called me names such as hag...etc, and any number of names he chose to use, to the point the mods chose to delete them (but have them in a special forum that only they can view) because of their nature, as well as poke fun at topics I posted as he did one on Terrelle Pryor which was no different than many you or others posted that you gave no response or weren't concerned about the quality of posts at that time. I have had my intelligence on any matter questioned, my knowledge of any football post dismissed because I do not have the qualifications or experience some feel they have and I have endured this for months as well as have other posters but yet no response was given at that time. I have bluntly addressed issues in just the last couple of weeks after simply requesting that links be provided to copied and pasted posts, something that has always been a common practice on this board of which I have been a member of also for several years. The college forum is no different than any other forum on this board, it's open to all and rules apply to all, not just the female members. It's a shame that those of you now are so greatly offended when the same behavior has been going on for months and no one spoke up.
I simply enjoy posting about whatever strikes my attention at the time, would like to see links to articles or comments that have been copied so I can further read or check the validity, and not have my knowledge or comments attacked by being called childish names. Not anything more than any poster should ask or enjoy.

[seofan_via_dublin]

The post was addressed to a lot of posters, sometimes all of the posters.

I couldn't give a crap about if your man, woman, child, or wookie.
That goes for everyone out there. I don't know many of you, I don't
know who or what you are, and frankly I don't care.

Name calling and petty 4th grade behavior is silly, and I just got finished doing it
on the pro-forum, so yes this is one of those times where I include myself.

Also, going out of your way to "fact check" a poster on a small community thread is petty.
Peake is this sites foremost and best Michigan fan and poster. He knows more about the program,
and makes far and away the best posts about the program. We've had our debates about the validity
of his points, and we've had our debates about the future and past of the OSU Michigan rivalry.
At there worst though, they were simply debates. Not petty name calling, not going out and trying to find
fault in his posts, not accusing him of plagarism, and at the end of the debate we still knew that
they next time we discussed something it would be on even terms.

Dirty laundry was aired in the public side of the forum, that could have easily been resolved with
a simple PM, asking if the post was copied and pasted or not. Instead, it was brought about in a
very public manner. Let me assure you, if made made my carreer on journalism and ethics in journalism,
and you accused me of plagarism, we would have had much more problems than me calling you a hag.

I don't wish this drama to be carried out any further. Please pm me if you feel I am wrong. Believe me, I
see both sides, and think the name calling is silly and petty on his side too.

[ballparent]

The post was addressed to a lot of posters, sometimes all of the posters.

I couldn't give a crap about if your man, woman, child, or wookie.
That goes for everyone out there. I don't know many of you, I don't
know who or what you are, and frankly I don't care.

Name calling and petty 4th grade behavior is silly, and I just got finished doing it
on the pro-forum, so yes this is one of those times where I include myself.

Also, going out of your way to "fact check" a poster on a small community thread is petty.
Peake is this sites foremost and best Michigan fan and poster. He knows more about the program,
and makes far and away the best posts about the program. We've had our debates about the validity
of his points, and we've had our debates about the future and past of the OSU Michigan rivalry.
At there worst though, they were simply debates. Not petty name calling, not going out and trying to find
fault in his posts, not accusing him of plagarism, and at the end of the debate we still knew that
they next time we discussed something it would be on even terms.

Dirty laundry was aired in the public side of the forum, that could have easily been resolved with
a simple PM, asking if the post was copied and pasted or not. Instead, it was brought about in a
very public manner. Let me assure you, if made made my carreer on journalism and ethics in journalism,
and you accused me of plagarism, we would have had much more problems than me calling you a hag.

I don't wish this drama to be carried out any further. Please pm me if you feel I am wrong. Believe me, I
see both sides, and think the name calling is silly and petty on his side too.

You have a pm.

[Just_A_Fan]

heck i forgot what the name of the topic was lol

I dont know if my ? got answer or not so Ill ask it again. Does anyone know who michigan will pick put for next years open game.

Someone said they dont think Michigan will win 8 or 9 games next year i do and here's why. We would have a QB that could run out of the pocket when needed. You could possibley see Treet still the main QB but one of the rookies used like a Tim Tebow. The OL will be much better with a year under there belt (I think everyone comes back) Both Sam and Brandon will be back to 100% health wize.
Just about everyone on the D will return all but maybe three or four people

Besides OSU who will be the front runner of the Big Ten? I dont know what other teams bring back and really dont wanna look it up, lol.

not going to say that theres light at the end of the tunnel, cause for that to happen we would have to have a couple bad years, we are just going an underpass lol.
GO BLUE

[CANNIBAL]

let's go tyrelle pryor, michigan will contiue to lose to the buckeyes as long as pryor in back at quater back, and i see heisman and national title before pryor graduates.

[Peake]

I don't know who Michigan will pick up for their open date yet, it hasn't been released by the athletic department.

Threet will likely not be the QB next year. If I had to guess at this point, I would have to think that Tate Forcier will be the starter next season. Tate is not a Pat White, but has very good speed (4.6-40)to escape the pocket and be successful on designed runs. He is highly accurate, passing for over 70% as a junior. He will be used more like Shawn King was used at Tulane, rather than Pryor or White. You may see Shad Beaver in the Tim Tebow role. He is a big kid at 6'4, but only weighs around 185. He has better speed than Forcier (was offered as a WR by Texas), but isn't as polished as a passer. I think Michigan will win between 6-8 games next season depending on many factors (injury, defense, etc.), but the defense will have to be much better than this season and you have to remember that Michigan will be playing with freshman at QB. Sam McGuffie according to multiple sources will not return next season due to many outside factors.

As far as OSU beating UM, just because OSU has Pryor doesn't mean that they will beat anyone. PSU sure didn't get the memo. I also think that PSU is the frontrunner next season, not OSU.

[seofan_via_dublin]

PSU was supposed to be 4th in the conference at best this year, a middle of the pack team.

OSU will have to replace some very good defensive players next year,
and a good WR and a great running back.

They are deep, and will replace it well enough to finish #1 or #1A again in the Big Ten.

I think Michigan will improve in Rodriguez's second year, and likely get back on the bowl circut.
I think they are a 7 win team next season, and make good strides toward regaining
their place near the top of the Big 10 for his third year.

[marshallman]

Please don't talk to me about what I do and don't need to do. When you become an administrator on this site, then you can tell me what to do. I forgot to put a link, I apologize, and it will be the last time that I apologize. You have been on this site for how long? Please find something constructive to do with your time aside from telling me about what I need to do.

I highly doubt that you read michiganscout.com----unless you actually pay to read it, which I am guessing you don't. I don't care what people outside of the program have to say, I care about the people who are in and around it everyday. I rarely read mgoblog.com because of how many times they are so far off from the truth, but that post was also on the scout site when I read it.

I am no puppet on anyone's knee. I gave you my full opinion on the Marshall program back in the summer, you wanted nothing to do with it because it didn't fall in order with yours.

Same goes for you. Don't insult me with how long I been on this sight. What in the world does that have to do with anything? This isn't dungeons and dragons game play. I also have a life outside of this board. I Don't live on it. Michigan program also didn't fall in order with what you wanted and now they have 3 more players leaving the program counting Sam M. the future of the program. I don't have to hold a 3000 poster in high regard anymore than a 1 poster. It means nothing to me other than you have more time on your hands than me.

[Peake]

Move on and read Dubs posts above. You are about 3 days behind. I could care less what you think of me, Michigan, or anything else. Just talk some sports and stop beating a dead horse.

Just so you know, McGuffie is leaving for one because----he has had 3 concusions within 5 weeks, which dotors have told him that he may not play again---he also has big time family problems that are well documented and his family was all but homeless this year. You should know since you read so many Michigan articles

The other two are leaving because they are barried deep on the depth chart.

[ballparent]

Move on and read Dubs posts above. You are about 3 days behind. I could care less what you think of me, Michigan, or anything else. Just talk some sports and stop beating a dead horse.

Just so you know, McGuffie is leaving for one because----he has had 3 concusions within 5 weeks, which dotors have told him that he may not play again---he also has big time family problems that are well documented and his family was all but homeless this year. You should know since you read so many Michigan articles

The other two are leaving because they are barried deep on the depth chart.

How bad do you have to be.... to be "barried" in the Michigan depth chart?
I don't blame them for leaving.

[Peake]

I don't know, ask Carson Butler who was behind a freshman in Kevin Koger, who OSU wanted very badly It has been well documented that Butler has long had discipline problems dating back to Lloyd Carr last season. He had one game in which he played up to his talent, and that was against Florida in the Capital One Bowl.

Avory Horn returned one kick I believe all season, and he was probably going to be 4th string RB behind a couple freshman coming into next season. If you are behind Brandon Minor, there is nothing wrong with that. He was nothing more than a scat-back who was never going to be the primary ball carrier at any point. There were rumors of him leaving after his freshman season when Carr was there. This doesn't surprise me at all.

I don't think "bad" is a good way to discribe any of the players leaving. They are division one athletes playing for Michigan, I wouldn't classify them as "bad". They don't fit the new "system" is what I am thinking.

[Peake]

Rick Leach in the Detriotnews today:http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081209/SPORTS0201/812090427/1004/SPORTS

On Rodriguez: "Once Rich Rodriguez became available in this process, I was called out of the blue from my former coach, Don Nehlen, who was my quarterback coach my last two years (at Michigan).

"After I left Michigan, he went to West Virginia and basically built that program from the ground up. Rich Rodriguez was hired on his staff and took over when Don retired.

"Don called me and shared his feelings about (Rodriguez) as a person, as a coach. That's all I needed to hear, believe me, because I know Don Nehlen is one of us. And Don Nehlen told him this opportunity only comes along once in a lifetime and if you don't take this job, you're a darn fool. God bless Don Nehlen for bringing that to us."


On the thought that the cupboard was bare for Rodriguez this season: "Let me give you a few facts. When Bo (Schembechler) came in and took over for Bump Elliott -- make it clear, when he came in, in 1969, he did not recruit any of those guys on that team that he took over. Let's see, on that team he took over, there turned out to be 28 all-Big Ten players, nine All-Americans and, oh yeah, three players that went into to the College Football Hall of Fame. That's No. 1.

"No. 2, when Lloyd Carr took over from Gary Moeller and he inherited that team, let me see, there were 24 all-Big Ten players, nine All-Americans and, oh yes, a Heisman Trophy winner in Charles Woodson.

"Now, correct me if I'm wrong, this year's all-Big Ten team just came out. Michigan had two players on the first and second team, and one of them was a punter. I rest my case."

On salty language at practice: "I've got to say, because everybody around this town, around this country and in this profession had so much respect for Bo Schembechler. If you think for a minute that he didn't use language behind the scenes or on the sidelines -- we all saw some of the tirades.

"What a joke. It's just another log on the fire that they try to throw at Rich Rodriguez. I've been to practice. They talk about family values? Well, guess what? He allows his wife, the coaches' wives and their children to come to practice, and they coach the way they coach.

"Was I a little shocked and surprised when I first saw it? Absolutely. But if it's that big an issue -- they have their wives and children witness that, so it can't be too big an issue.

"They coach how they coach. Every coach has his own style and his own way of doing things. My whole point is, if you don't want to hear that kind of language and be coached aggressively for a staff that just wants to try to get the best out of your ability, then go to Trinity Baptist College and see how their football program is."

Random Quote:

"When they came down the tunnel, and I'm standing 10 yards from that tunnel and Rich Rodriguez came down with the seniors, and I took one look in his eye, and I said, 'That's my guy.' I've seen that look before, I've played for him. His name was Bo Schembechler, and I'm darn proud (Rodriguez is) here."


"On former U-M lineman Justin Boren, who transferred to Ohio State and was critical of Rodriguez and his staff: "My own personal feelings -- if you don't like it here, and you don't want to be here, then move on. Because if Rich Rodriguez and his staff are too tough for you, if you don't like the way they raise their voices and, oh yes, maybe even now and then they cuss at you, guess what? Bo Schembechler did, Gary Moeller, and I believe Lloyd Carr might have done that every now and then. If that's your issue, then move on."

[marshallman]

Move on and read Dubs posts above. You are about 3 days behind. I could care less what you think of me, Michigan, or anything else. Just talk some sports and stop beating a dead horse.

Just so you know, McGuffie is leaving for one because----he has had 3 concusions within 5 weeks, which dotors have told him that he may not play again---he also has big time family problems that are well documented and his family was all but homeless this year. You should know since you read so many Michigan articles

The other two are leaving because they are barried deep on the depth chart.

Yes, I read it. You need to keep it in mind too when posting. Your last post just went over justifying all the same things again on why players left and RR coaching style. Bottom line, like Marshall, "WIN" or you will be writing the same stuff again next year.

[Peake]

Key difference--------RR history of winning, Snyder doesn't. You are not the coach at Michigan if you are a bad coach. I don't need justification. I knew and posted what I heard. Now you have someone who is respected and loved by the UM community, and was on the search committee, telling you first hand. I don't need to do anything.

[marshallman]

I hope they keep RR. I believe he is your John Cooper. Same history, winning coach from Arizonia State, Tulsa and OSU. He had no history of OSU and couldn't win the big one and couldn't beat Michigan. Sounds like they are cut from the same mold to me. etc.. see PITT from last year and against OSU this year.

[Just_A_Fan]

they wasn't a fav to win against OSU this year, and last year against PITT i do believe Pat White did get hurt, plus WVU lost to Pitt against this year @ home with pretty much the same group of guys.

What is your point that you are trying to make, by saying RR lost to Pitt and OSU yes he did every coach loses a couple games.