Rematch

[The_Legend_of_Northwest]

Despite what you just said Georgia is far superior than anything Houston has played this year.

[2trap_4ever]

Is it Alabama's fault they lost in overtime to the #1 team in the country? Can you penalize them for the league being so great?

Actually yes,,,,it is Alabama's fault they lost. LSU has already shown they are better, why would we need to see it again.

[Peake]

Do we really have to do this? I feel I have been very fair with your assessment of Houston possibly beating Boise this year.

If you don't understand why the edge goes to Boise this year and just about every other year in the past 7-10 years then I don't know what to say to you.

This season the best win for Houston is a 4 point win over 5-4 UCLA. Boise beat Georgia who is 7-2 at the moment in Atlanta.

2010-beat Virginia Tech on the east coast, Oregon State, and Utah.
2009-beat Oregon and #4 TCU
2008-beat Oregon at Oregon
2006-beat Oregon State and #3 Oklahoma
2004-beat Oregon State and BYU

[NYBuckeye96]

It's one thing for Boise to beat 1 or 2 big names a year. It's another to have to face the "gauntlet" of playing at least 8-9 big name teams week after week after week. Boise could play an SEC team one week and then a WAC/Mountain West team the next 3. If Boise players were hurt after Georgia, they could recover the following week when they play an Idaho or Wyoming. They don't have to turn around and play an Alabama, Ohio State, Nebraska, Texas, or USC the following week.

Beating 1 SEC team and then winning the Mountain West or the WAC does not constitute deserving to play for a national championship.

[seofan_via_dublin]

Boise for the title, no.

Boise better than Houston, shouldn't even be a discussion!

[VegasEagle]

Do we really have to do this? I feel I have been very fair with your assessment of Houston possibly beating Boise this year.

If you don't understand why the edge goes to Boise this year and just about every other year in the past 7-10 years then I don't know what to say to you.

This season the best win for Houston is a 4 point win over 5-4 UCLA. Boise beat Georgia who is 7-2 at the moment in Atlanta.

2010-beat Virginia Tech on the east coast, Oregon State, and Utah.
2009-beat Oregon and #4 TCU
2008-beat Oregon at Oregon
2006-beat Oregon State and #3 Oklahoma
2004-beat Oregon State and BYU

I am not Impressed by this at all how many of you guys think Oregon State and Utah are tough teams to beat??????? Not Me. Take it from someone who has watched them play this year......That being ME!!!!!! when you almost get rolled by Air Force and UNLV plays with you and you are in the weakest Conf. in college football No You dont play in the National Title Game...... THEY PLAY NO ONE !!!!!!!!!! And Oklahoma was Never #3 they were #8 when they play Boise and banged up I think

[Peake]

So you don't think playing and beating Oregon State (10-4) the same year they beat a stacked #1 USC team means anything? Beating Utah means nothing, yet beating UCLA does? Utah was the #19 team in the country, UCLA is 5-4.

Oh Oklahoma was only #8 and the Big 12 champions no big deal. I mean what Houston has been doing over the past 10 years makes them a power house. I mean TCU was only the #4 team in the country, no big deal either.


So they beat Air Force by 11 and beat UNLV by 27, and they both nearly beat Boise, riiiiight.

I don't care if you have seen them 50 times, it doesn't take away from what they have accomplished. IT also doesn't take away from the fact you are dead wrong.

[VegasEagle]

So you don't think playing and beating Oregon State (10-4) the same year they beat a stacked #1 USC team means anything? Beating Utah means nothing, yet beating UCLA does? Utah was the #19 team in the country, UCLA is 5-4.

Oh Oklahoma was only #8 and the Big 12 champions no big deal. I mean what Houston has been doing over the past 10 years makes them a power house. I mean TCU was only the #4 team in the country, no big deal either.


So they beat Air Force by 11 and beat UNLV by 27, and they both nearly beat Boise, riiiiight.

I don't care if you have seen them 50 times, it doesn't take away from what they have accomplished. IT also doesn't take away from the fact you are dead wrong.

Tell you what Peake if Boise State makes it to the National Championship and wins I will buy you a Plane ticket to Vegas and take you to the best Steak Dinner out here(AND NEVER CALL YOU AGAIN) lol if Not how bout I fly back home pop off a Crow and cook it up for you and you eat it wanna make that bet????? Just because they won the WAC does not make them Legit they have one Huge Victory over Oklahoma thats it. You can judge a lot by a team and when they are having tough times with weaker to mid pack teams in a WEAK Mt.West Conf. does not make them Title worthy thats the fact..... Also I didnt say Houston should go to a Title game I said I think they would beat Boise St (THIS YEAR). IMO I think they would

[el savior]

So you don't think playing and beating Oregon State (10-4) the same year they beat a stacked #1 USC team means anything? Beating Utah means nothing, yet beating UCLA does? Utah was the #19 team in the country, UCLA is 5-4.

Oh Oklahoma was only #8 and the Big 12 champions no big deal. I mean what Houston has been doing over the past 10 years makes them a power house. I mean TCU was only the #4 team in the country, no big deal either.


So they beat Air Force by 11 and beat UNLV by 27, and they both nearly beat Boise, riiiiight.

I don't care if you have seen them 50 times, it doesn't take away from what they have accomplished. IT also doesn't take away from the fact you are dead wrong.

Sorry, transitive property doesn't work in college football and never will.

Also your speaking about the past. The past is irrelevant to this current year. Anyways, there is only one real threat at wide-out this year for Boise, Tyler Shoemaker, and I used the term threat loosely. Doug Martin is decent, but averaging barely 5 yards against much weaker competition is less than impressive. There defense gave up 21 to a suspect Georgia offense, 26 to Air Force, and 21 to UNLV. To think Houston wouldn't shred this defense is, well, laughable. Boise still may win, but Houston would be competitive without a doubt.

There is a reason Boise plays all there toughest games the first week of the season... Petersen knows how to prepare his team over the course of the off-season better than anyone I have seen (bowl games as well). Boise has talent, but your acting as if they are world beaters for beating 1 great team and a few good teams over a 5 year period.

[VegasEagle]

So you don't think playing and beating Oregon State (10-4) the same year they beat a stacked #1 USC team means anything? Beating Utah means nothing, yet beating UCLA does? Utah was the #19 team in the country, UCLA is 5-4.

Oh Oklahoma was only #8 and the Big 12 champions no big deal. I mean what Houston has been doing over the past 10 years makes them a power house. I mean TCU was only the #4 team in the country, no big deal either.


So they beat Air Force by 11 and beat UNLV by 27, and they both nearly beat Boise, riiiiight.

I don't care if you have seen them 50 times, it doesn't take away from what they have accomplished. IT also doesn't take away from the fact you are dead wrong.

Sorry, transitive property doesn't work in college football and never will.

Also your speaking about the past. The past is irrelevant to this current year. Anyways, there is only one real threat at wide-out this year for Boise, Tyler Shoemaker, and I used the term threat loosely. Doug Martin is decent, but averaging barely 5 yards against much weaker competition is less than impressive. There defense gave up 21 to a suspect Georgia offense, 26 to Air Force, and 21 to UNLV. To think Houston wouldn't shred this defense is, well, laughable. Boise still may win, but Houston would be competitive without a doubt.

There is a reason Boise plays all there toughest games the first week of the season... Petersen knows how to prepare his team over the course of the off-season better than anyone I have seen (bowl games as well). Boise has talent, but your acting as if they are world beaters for beating 1 great team and a few good teams over a 5 year period.

Ding Ding Ding we have a winner folks Thank You!!!!!!!

[Peake]

Vegas I love the anchor man reference!

I quote you "how many of you guys think Oregon State and Utah are tough to beat?" Well USC in 06 sure thinks it was tough and cost them a chance at playing for a NC. Alabama didn't think playing Utah was fun, nor did Michigan that same year.

LSU won a national title after giving up a billion points in 07 to Arkansas in a loss. It's about winning the game, which Boise has done.

I get you don't think they are that good and I get that they play in a weak conference, but show me a team who will travel to the opposing teams place almost every single year (basically) and beat them. You will be hard pressed to find a team with the resume of Boise in terms of beating to tier teams in the past 5-8 years.

They've beaten Oklahoma big 12 champ, Oregon who was pac-10 champs and went to the rose bowl, Virginia Tech who was the ACC Champ, TCU who was #4 in the country, Georgia who is currently #19 in the country, Utah who was #19 in the country, Oregon State who beat #1 USC and went 10-4. None of these wins are impressive because they don't play in a good conference. great logic.

[Peake]

El savior, there is a reason big schools schedule weaker schools in the beginning of the year, and there is a reason they crush them. Oh wait Boise does the opposite so in turn they suck.

[NYBuckeye96]

They've beaten Oklahoma big 12 champ, Oregon who was pac-10 champs and went to the rose bowl, Virginia Tech who was the ACC Champ, TCU who was #4 in the country, Georgia who is currently #19 in the country, Utah who was #19 in the country, Oregon State who beat #1 USC and went 10-4. None of these wins are impressive because they don't play in a good conference. great logic.

Had Boise State picked up all of these wins in ONE SEASON, then BSU might have a stronger argument. Adding up all of their BCS conference wins and combining them from the past five years or so, and my original point is made again. Beat top teams week in and week out, and you deserve a title shot. Knock off Georgia and then go home and play the likes of Wyoming and Idaho, and you don't deserve anything. Also TCU and Utah's ratings were artificially high because they were both in the Mountain West rather than a PAC12, B1G or SEC. Same arguement against them.

Now if Utah is ranked that high today, they deserve it playing in the PAC12.

If TCU is ranked that high, they are more worthy playing in the Big12 than MountainWest.

[WitnessProtection]

No rematch.

[farmer]

LSU played it's second game of the season against Northwestern State. Without looking up things on the internet I couldn't even tell you what state they are in or even say I had even heard about them before.

Wyoming and Idaho are teams I have heard of.

[el savior]

El savior, there is a reason big schools schedule weaker schools in the beginning of the year, and there is a reason they crush them. Oh wait Boise does the opposite so in turn they suck.

I never once said, "they suck." Your argument for them is over a span of 5 or so years. I just don't see the relevance to this season. I applaud them for going out and scheduling a big school every year, but until they play a "real" schedule or get in a better conference then I just can't put them in the title game. As I stated before, Petersen is one of the best in the business at getting his team prepared and that's what scares me the most about Boise.

[NYBuckeye96]

LSU played it's second game of the season against Northwestern State. Without looking up things on the internet I couldn't even tell you what state they are in or even say I had even heard about them before.

Wyoming and Idaho are teams I have heard of.

So LSU played one or two pointless teams, just like everyone else. They also play at least 9 BCS teams. Boise State is the opposite. They play 1-2 BCS teams and then lesser competition. I'm fine with LSU playing Northwestern State, which I believe is one of the Louisiana schools, because they are also playing the likes of Alabama, Auburn, etc. etc. over the course of a league schedule. They would be worthy of playing for a national championship if they were undefeated.


The BCS is only consolidating power with realignment. It sets up the potential for 4 super conferences in the future, and it also takes the top non-BCS teams and brings them into the fold.

Granted, I don't know if the Big East will still be a BCS automatic qualifyer or not in the future --- even if they add Boise State or BYU.

The top 4 auto conferences are stronger. The Big 12 is weaker, but still an auto qualifyer. The Big East is the big question, and definately a loser in this process.

The non-auto qualifyers are also all big losers because they have or will lose their top teams to the "Big 6".

[VegasEagle]

Vegas I love the anchor man reference!

I quote you "how many of you guys think Oregon State and Utah are tough to beat?" Well USC in 06 sure thinks it was tough and cost them a chance at playing for a NC. Alabama didn't think playing Utah was fun, nor did Michigan that same year.

LSU won a national title after giving up a billion points in 07 to Arkansas in a loss. It's about winning the game, which Boise has done.

I get you don't think they are that good and I get that they play in a weak conference, but show me a team who will travel to the opposing teams place almost every single year (basically) and beat them. You will be hard pressed to find a team with the resume of Boise in terms of beating to tier teams in the past 5-8 years.

They've beaten Oklahoma big 12 champ, Oregon who was pac-10 champs and went to the rose bowl, Virginia Tech who was the ACC Champ, TCU who was #4 in the country, Georgia who is currently #19 in the country, Utah who was #19 in the country, Oregon State who beat #1 USC and went 10-4. None of these wins are impressive because they don't play in a good conference. great logic.

Peake I get your point old buddy im just not sold thats it. Im set in my ways and hard headed when they get in the Big East Big Ten or Pac-12 and win the Conf. then let them play for a NC until then im not going to respect them thats all...

[Charge]

I don't think BS is one of the top two teams but people don't want a playoff because the regular season is a playoff they say. Well Alabama had their chance and lost their playoff so they should be out. If LSU loses they should be out if their are undefeated teams left. If the regular season is a playoff and Houston and BS are the only undefeated teams than this should be the NC game. I bet if this would happen all these people against a playoff would change their mind.

[noreply66]

LSU and Alabama win out...Oklahoma State loses and Stanford loses...Make it six.

S-E-C.

Would this be the best money bowl for the one that gets beat. If one went to another bowl with the winner getting more money than they would get for dropping this bowl. But then they would think they would win the other bowl before going to it.