Pryor and his effect on Future QB Recruits

[Peake]

Just wanted to know the opinions of everyone on what kind of impact Pryor will have on future QB recruits. The kid they are looking at from Florida in the 2009 class is average at best and none of the "stud QB's" are even considering OSU.

Just a question but what if Pryor fizzles or gets hurt, who steps in?

[oak hill71]

Henton will still be there in '09, so I would assume him.

[Orestes]

Joe Bauserman looked good in the spring game. Some think he has passed Henton on the depth chart.

On the other hand, Pryor's committment to OSU has influenced some 09 recruits at other positions. Guys want to play with Pryor.

Anyway, OSU should be able to lock up a QB in the 2010 class if not the 2009 class.

If you are speaking of Victor Marc, I believe OSU is looking at him as an athlete. We'll see if he gets an offer.

[RiverRatRay]

Bauserman showed well in the Spring game. Looks like a welcome addition.

[Peake]

Why come on here and be a jerk? I am not Disgruntled at all. Pryor didn’t come to Michigan, I did what most fans have done and moved on. Kevin Newsome and Shad Beaver have already verballed for next season and we still lead for Tate Forcier.

The only one that sounds disgruntled is you.

Pryor will probably be an outstanding QB, but with that being said it is also important to point out that at QB it can be difficult to get in quality players at that position because they don’t want to sit.

Prime example is Chad Heene. After Heene signed did you see any high profile QB’s come in until Mallett when Heene was a senior?

All I was asking for were honest opinions on the outcome of him signing. Everyone has given good responses and you pulled the “well you’re just an upset Michigan fan” card. I have found the responses to be educated and informing; all except yours of course.

[abuck76]

ouch... slammin' the G-Man.........

[Peake]

Do I since hostility in anyone’s tone?

You don’t like watching UM or tracking recruits, good for you. I will tell you that you are a dying breed of fan. Most Buckeye fans I encounter, well just about any college football fan I encounter pays attention to what their opponents are doing.

You are correct some 5 stars fizzle and some don’t. For every Vince Young there is a Ronald Curry. For every Beanie there is a Kelly Baraka.

This was nothing more than a simple question that is all. I actually took the question from a---------- gaspppppppp---------- thread on the OSU boards. So your brethren seem to find it interesting so I though hey what the who I would pose it as well.

When was the last time OSU put a QB in the league that accomplished anything? That is how I evaluate the stud QB’s that come through the recruiting ranks.

Many of your fellow Buckeyes have asked this identical question about who is OSU targeting with most top QB in the 2009 class already committed.

Nope there is absolutely nothing going on with UM. New Coach, New Offense, New System, New Strength and Conditioning Program, Renovations at the Big House, nope nothing going on at UM.

I don’t know who poo’d in your cheerios, but take the grumpy old man pants off. This was a good thread until you ruined it.

[brutally honest]

Why come on here and be a jerk? I am not Disgruntled at all. Pryor didn’t come to Michigan, I did what most fans have done and moved on. Kevin Newsome and Shad Beaver have already verballed for next season and we still lead for Tate Forcier.

The only one that sounds disgruntled is you.

Pryor will probably be an outstanding QB, but with that being said it is also important to point out that at QB it can be difficult to get in quality players at that position because they don’t want to sit.

Prime example is Chad Heene. After Heene signed did you see any high profile QB’s come in until Mallett when Heene was a senior?

All I was asking for were honest opinions on the outcome of him signing. Everyone has given good responses and you pulled the “well you’re just an upset Michigan fan” card. I have found the responses to be educated and informing; all except yours of course.

Seriously, how can you be a sports fan and not be able to spell some of your team's key players names? This isn't the first time I've asked you this either. Chad Henne

[BigMcCauley55]

Henton will still be there in '09, so I would assume him.

you know what happens when you assume?


he could be in jail

[LICKING COUNTY FAN]

Right now it seems that the Buckeyes are loaded at QB. I do not see them really trying to sign that stud until the 2010 class or the 2011 class.

I do think the high school recruits know just how loaded they are and it could, if the Buckeyes tried to sign a big name recruit hurt them in the next year or two.

Every college goes through this when they are loaded in a certain area. I do think if a recruit wants to go to a certain college they will sign there even if it means competing with a player who is already in place. No recruit goes into this thinking I am second string.

[whodeyAtown21]

When was the last time OSU put a QB in the league that accomplished anything? That is how I evaluate the stud QB’s that come through the recruiting ranks.

Come on peake...Krenzel played at Cincinnati and didn't get arrested! Isn't that an accomplishment?

[Brutus8907]

Look, i love the buckeyes as much as any other OSU fan on this site but gahs... i dont believe peake had any negative intentions behind his very legitimate question but for some reason you feel the need to come in and get all defensive...do you lack faith in your team? methinks so.

When was the last time OSU put a QB in the league that accomplished anything? That is how I evaluate the stud QB’s that come through the recruiting ranks.

Short term memory or alzheimers?

Or perhaps you dont think winning the Heisman Trophy constitutes "accomplished anything!" Not to mention taking an undefeated team that was Big Ten champions into the national championship game............

What was his name? I think he's playing for the Ravens in the NFL these days!

What WAS his name!

um...allow me to rephrase the question so you can understand it better...when was the last time OSU put a QB in the league that accomplished anything IN THE LEAGUE? yes, troy smith did great things for OSU but thus far he has done squat for the Ravens after he was drafted in the 5th ROUND. personally, i think he'd be a better QB in that system than Kyle Boller but it's up to the Ravens staff to make that decision.

as for the question at hand. i believe Pryor's commitment will have a short term effect on QB recruits due to worry over lack of playing time...BUT as his collegiate career progresses and he inches closer to leaving (be it after his junior or senior year) the recruits will see he's on his way out and all will be back to normal.

[Peake]

So are the whipsers of Henton trasnferring gone? Orestes do you know?

[The Program]

I heard he was transferring to Michigan

[BigMcCauley55]

I heard he was transferring to Michigan

no Boren for Henton no way

[whodeyAtown21]

sucks you can talk to someone until they use their....oh wait, I'd get a ban for saying that.

[Peake]

I am pretty sure when anyone makes mention of "the league" they mean the NFL.

You stated it correctly in your post. This is a college thread, that means it is open to any subject pertaining to college; not just OSU. You want an OSU forum than create one.

I was being diplomatic and asking a simple question.

You turned it into an upset Michigan fan conversation.

There is no more anti OSU than there is anti any other team on this board.

How do you think it feels to hear "Michigan sucks" or "Screw Florida"?

Like one of our other overly educated friends on here said, "Michigan fans (or any other fan than OSU) is out numbered like 1000 to 1." So why is it that if anything is said about the almighty Buckeyes than God forbid we be able to post without punishment.

You are doing an excellent job of turning people away from this board because you feel the need to flex your internet muscle.

BTW, I counted on two OSU message boards within the first two pages there were 11 threads that contained Michigan in them

[mister b]

If Pryor were to get hurt or fizzle, I have to agree that OSU has a plan in place for another QB. I don't think with Pryor @ OSU is going to cause many future QB's to turn away from OSU as one would think. If they are good enough and want to progress, they will want a challenge.

Now, did Pryor make the right choice by going to OSU? Only time will tell. If he is as good as advertised and stays healthly, I would be very surprised that he plays all 4 years, that is just the nature of the college game these days @ division I and because of that, it will have little effect on recruiting at that position. I think Pryor would have been a very good fit in RR's offense because it depends greatly on the QB making that first improtant read and deciding on the fly were the ball is going to go. Pryor has, without a doubt, the athletic ability to do that part. But, does he have the mental toughness to make the correct decision on the fly? I say this not to question his I.Q., but we don't know what will happen until a player gets in a game on have they make and handle their decisions.

If Pryor is looking beyond college for a career in football as a QB, then he made the right choice by going to OSU vs Michigan as RR's offense does not lend itself to developing QB's for the NFL. Why, because the NFL is still a drop back style league for it's QBs. The whole running QB style has not caught on in the NFL and those QBs that don't have a developed sense of being a drop back passer have struggled in the NFL. They have made alot of money and won some games but they have yet to win a Super Bowl. Plus, the running QB in Michigan's offense lends itself to injury and the players in the NFL are faster, bigger and hit much harder then college. Even a tough guy like Mike Allsott at fullback for Tampa Bay can only take a limited number of hits before it had an adverse affect on his body.

[Brutus8907]

I was only stating my opinion, and if you dont like it, that's just too bad. Ever since the college forum was began, posters from Michigan and Florida and every other anti OSU fan have posted their negativity without comment, but the first time I state how I feel concerning the motives of a Michigan fan's questions and opinions I get called a jerk and your little pet word.

you have every right to state your opinion, i just dont understand why you have to come in here and get all defensive over a relatively innocent question.

And for the record, you dont understand yourself. You wrote:

um...allow me to rephrase the question so you can understand it better...when was the last time OSU put a QB in the league that accomplished anything IN THE LEAGUE? yes, troy smith did great things for OSU but thus far he has done squat for the Ravens

Im pretty sure "the league" he was referring to was the Big Ten, and thus my reply as to his undefeated season, being undefeated against Michigan, two national championship game appearances, and a Heisman Trophy. Im still trying to figure out how all that doesnt qualify as "accomplishing anything."

But to take up on your post, I dont think one year of sitting (like a lot of QBs have done; ie Palmer, Brady, Quinn, Young, the list is endless) means anything. Point being it is too early to tell if he will amount to anything at QB. Another long list of athletes who played QB in college only to play elsewhere in the pros would include people like Hines Ward, Randle El, etc.

I am pretty sure when anyone makes mention of "the league" they mean the NFL.

there you have it, straight from the horse's mouth

and yes, i understand he rode the bench his first year but the point remains...THUS FAR he has done squat for his NFL team.

You are doing an excellent job of turning people away from this board because you feel the need to flex your internet muscle.

glad to see i'm not the only one who thinks so

[Brutus8907]

'twas you who cast the first stone. don't get mad when people react to you being exactly what you got called (be it jerk or the other one) i'm not saying you are one in general, just on this thread you have done a fine job presenting yourself as one.