Time For Marshall Football Coach To Resign

[purpleblood1]

Ok, I've been a big fan of Marshall football my whole life. Lived through the good & bad. Sat in the stands at Fairfield and Edwards Stadium. The past few years I have watched Marshall football fall apart, first with Preutt and now even more with Snyder. Even when people was hollaring for Snyder's neck I through my support behind him, but now I can't do that anymore. Yes the talent pool isn't what it used to be, but whose fault is that? Yes, the coaches. This team can't even beat UAB, whom they should have beaten by 2 touchdowns. They needed that win to even start to smell a post season berth. I hope that Snyder will go ahead and resign, finish the season and give Marshall a chance to see what is out there. I know there will be those of you who will want to argue well he just needs time or how hard it is to recruit to Huntington. LOL!!! Not!!!

[seofan_via_dublin]

Why should Marshall have been able to beat UAB by 2 touchdowns?

Both teams have offenses ranked near the bottom half of the country
--(UAB's is statistically better by 39 teams)
Both teams have defenses ranked in the bottom 1/4 of the country
--(Marshall is 104 and UAB is 112)
Both teams have tournover margin rankings in the bottom 1/3 of the country
--(Marshall 82 UAB 89)

Looks to me like a fairly even matched game, which it turned out to be.

Guess the entitled Marshall fans will be mad at me for being a "band guy" and
being able to analyze their team better than they can, but that's alright.

Have to win 4 out of their next 5 games to have that winning record peake and I have
been blasted about.

[fuzzhead]

The running game is terrible and Cann is inconsistent.

[Peake]

I said at the beginning of the season that the defense is still bad. The LB core lost its best player and they were still average with him. The DB's are some of the worst I have seen in a long time at Marshall, and the Dline aside from and obvious good player at DE is average. The depth is also a huge ?. The O-line is still average, and no matter what they have a freshman at QB.

Recruiting hasn't gotten much better since he's gotten here. The schd is out of their league and that is Marcum's fault. I am sorry but it is time for Snyder to go.

[marshallman]

Snyder needs to finish the season. The recruitting is better, the coaching is not. Snyder better do something to show progress moving forward or he is done!
I do not think the sch has anything to do with the record. Coaching up the players accounts for something or you wouldn't need coaches.

[crafty left-hander]

You should think about what you are saying!! Are you that narrow minded? All of you? I'm not a Marshall fan at all, I'm just a big Buckeye fan, but I do know Mark Snyder and he is a great guy, and laugh if you want, but I think he is a great football coach. This is all not the teams fault or the coaches fault! It's the idiots who put them in CUSA and schedule games like Wisconsin, WVU, Ohio State, and Tennessee! Why don't you take the job and go win those games if you know it all! I'll take a good bet you couldn't! I'll take a bet 95% of the coaches in the country couldn't do it!

It's Marshall people! Let me say it again. It's Marshall!!! They are a good MAC school playing OU, Central Michigan, Bowling Green, Kent State, Akron, and so forth! Everybody that is a fan and supporter at that University needs to wake up and and see that Marshall isn't a 1-A stud and never will be! I know they were ranked #10 to end the season when Pennington was there, but they played the right schedule. A MAC schedule. Until they fix that they will be one of the nations worst year in and year out. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why Pruett left. He saw the stupid mistakes they were making as a University!

Like I said before, I am no Marshall fan at all, but truth is truth. You can play musical coaches for 25 years and stay in CUSA and accomplish nothing. It will never be fixed until the athletic department brings themselves down to Earth and realizes they can't compete with these bigger schools. Not even God could fix that mess in Huntington right now.

I guess they can join the SEC within the next 5 years

[seofan_via_dublin]

My question is, if you fire Snyder, who do you get to replace him?

Your not getting a top level coach, and your not likely to get a second tier coach.

Your going to have to go with a coordinator on the rise, but not a major one, they'll
go where they can get more cash.

Do you really think that would be better than Mark Snyder?

[Peake]

Who is being narrow minded? People are expressing opinion, just as you are. Just because you can scream through text doesn't make me take your post any more serious than any other post.

I know Coach Snyder, have talked to him once a week for a long time, and I think he is a very nice person who the players really like. With that being said, business is business. Either put up or shut up.

What are you basing your opinion around that he is such a great coach? Maybe he was a good position coach, or coordinator, but obviously he is not a "great coach".

The Athletic Director is to blame as well, but not as much as many think. Marshall's athletic budget has doubled since they joined CUSA. Should they play Tennessee? Yes. The payout cannot be passed up, plus Marshall recruits in Tennessee. Should Marshall play Wisconsin, absolutly no. Payout was less than a home game would make, and name a player from Wisconsin on Marshall's roster.

The reason they are Marshall has nothing to do with, they are just Marshall and will never be a 1-a stud. It has to do with alumni. It is a small alumni base that doesn't put much back into the program. You want to win, donate money to the program. Marshall operates near the bottom of CUSA in terms of athletic budget. To win you need money, point blank.

That mess was a train wreck from minute 1, but that same department has also put Donnie Jones into place, as well as a very fine Baseball, softball, and volleyball coach.

If Mark Snyder is a great coach, than I don't want to hear a single OSU fan say that Cooper was not!

Lastly, Rick Mentor would be an easy pick.

[crafty left-hander]

Cooper was a terrible coach!

[crafty left-hander]

Rick Mentor? He only coached one of the worst defenses in Notre Dame history?????

[seofan_via_dublin]

Cooper was a great coach and recruiter,
he was too predictable in big games though.

You don't have a .700 win percentage and finish in the
top 2 of the Big 10 7 times in 13 years if you are
are terrible coach.

[crafty left-hander]

You can be a terrible coach like he was and still win like he did because he was loaded with talent. 2-10-1 tells the story.

[Peake]

Losing to your rival does't make you a bad coach. Maybe it does in the eyes of your fans, but I seriously doubt Lloyd Carr will go down in histroy as a bad caoch because of his late losses in the rivalry. The man won a National Title, plenty of Big Ten Titles, and made better men out of his players.

Maybe Earl Burce should have stuck around and took your program to the heights that Cooper did.

Anyways, back to subject. Snyder needs to go, and he is not a great coach by any means.

If I am not mistaken, didn't Mentor beat Marshall in 2004?

[crafty left-hander]

Ok fire Snyder. Then in the three years you will be wanting the next guy fired. And it will keep running its cycle. And I highly doubt you talk to Snyder once a week. And if you did you certainly wouldn't be on here putting him down like this. Being a Buckeye fan I hope they do fire Snyder for my sake. He can go back to Columbus and get put back on the defensive staff. He sure had the Ohio State defense going in the right direction when he left.

[MTSWNGRVSG]

Go ahead and fire him, Ohio State could use him back as DC!

[Peake]

Sure did. Talked to him at least once every week. It was required, you know when you work for the media you have to talk to the man when you cover his team. I wasn't buddy buddy with him, but he knew who I was. Just stating a fact. Ask someone who knows me, they will tell you I covered Marshall for a couple years.

Snyder needs to be let go period. Put up or shut up. Ever read a Chuck Landon article? He has no problem going after him, and now either do I. I couldn't at the time becuase I worked for the company that wouldn't let me do that. This is business, maybe you and all of the true narrow minded fans out there don't understand this. I have nothing against the man, I am not attacking his character, I am stating that he has not done the job. He was given plenty of time.

If Tress goes ------insert snyder record----than by year two he is gone. How long must Herd fans wait? I am not a Herd fan, put that down. I was paid to cover them, I was not a fan.

If RR doesn't at the very least get Michigan back in the top 10 by year 3, can you imagine them actually letting him stick around.

Lets get real here.

Lastly, yes he is a very good position coach, coordinator, not so much. When he took over as DC, midway through the season he was demoted to co-defensive coordinator. FACT! You want him back as your DC, a big smile has just went across my Michigan fan face.

[85inside]

a little off base here, but you mentioned Michigan. I think instead of worrying about who coaches OSU's defense, you should worry about your West Virginia Athletic Conference Head coach you just hired. You know, the one that lost to Toledo at Home? you know, the one that gave up about a half a hundred to penn State last week? You know the one that lost to a team that Lloyd Carr never lost to? You know the guy that lost to Pittsburg last year? Geesh. worrying about Snyder. Talk about your "good position coaches." Heck at least you can say Marshall has very little big time history and they hired a "position coach." Michigan has tremendous history and they hire a guy who is the football equivalent to Barrack Obama or Sarah Palin, in big time game experience.

[Peake]

You just made yourself look like a complete fool. You took the entire post out of context.

You need to stick to the subject at hand!

You sound like ever other uneducated fan I have ever listend or spoke to about football in general. You want to compare Snyder's resume to RR??? Do you really want to go there?

Do you honestly feel that say Les Miles would have done any better with this team at this point?

I am not worrying about who coaches anyones anything, I am bringing up a fact about Snyder.

WVAC coach, lol. Yeah I guess the what 4 Big East Titles he won were just nothing.

Want proof of what kind of coach he is? Look at his former team that had plenty of talent become average quick!

Did you really just go there with Obama and RR comparisons? Wow. You should not be allowed to post on this site untill you hit puberty.

[MTSWNGRVSG]

What kind of shape was Marshall in when Snyder was hired? I do not care who the coach is at Marshall, they will struggle in Conference-USA They thought they were too good for the MAC so they moved. Pruitt knew when to leave!

[marshallman]

What kind of shape was Marshall in when Snyder was hired? I do not care who the coach is at Marshall, they will struggle in Conference-USA They thought they were too good for the MAC so they moved. Pruitt knew when to leave!

Marshall playing in C-USA has nothing to do with the record or the wins! This is stupid to even suggest they move back to the MAC. Look at Boise State, Tulsa or Utah, if you have a great coaching staff you can win in C-USA. Recruiting, developing players is what its all about. If a school high in the mountains of snow covered isolated Idaho can build and maintain a program Marshall can too.