Michigan State @ Michigan

[Orestes]

Player Out of Bounds
ARTICLE 1. a. A player or an airborne player is out of bounds when any
part of his person touches anything, other than another player or game
official, on or outside a boundary line (A.R. 4-2-1-I and II).
b. A player or an airborne player who touches a pylon is out of bounds.

[Peake]

I thought he was out of bounds. Anyways, I am excited that they are working in some freshman. The seniors have had 7 games to do something.

[Peake]

Boubacar Cissoko looks better than either DB in just a few short series.

[Orestes]

RR is smart to do that because this season is basically a wash. Plus, if the older guys aren't going to produce, put in someone who might.

As John Cooper said, "If a dog is going to bite, he'll do it as a pup."

[Peake]

Donnavon Warren has been more disappointing than Trent. We know Trent is just pure speed and nothing more, Warren was supposed to be the real deal. So far all Warren has done is give a 15 yard cushion and miss tackles in space. Michigan is going to be fine in the secondary in the nest year or so. Cissoko will be back, Warren will be a junior, JT Floyd will be a RFreshman, Brandon Smith will be a safety and will get Stevie Brown the hell out of there, and maybe Turner starts as a freshman, and if not I have to suffer through another year of Brown.

[Peake]

See what I mean. Where in the world is Brown? He is the safety, he shoud keep plays like that from happening. Makes me want to puke!

[Orestes]

Michigan hasn't had good safety play for a long time. That has to be a big priority for Michigan. JT Turner is a good get, but his constant high school suspensions are troublesome, as he can be a really good player.

Amazing the offensive outburst that has suddenly hit this game.

[Peake]

Nice drive.

[Peake]

I am trying to think of the last big time safety. Jamar Adams was a little above average. Shazor was a great run stopper, but should have been a LB. Okay, so I can't actually think of one. Well I guess Marlin Jackson was a safety for a season, he was probably the best one we have had.

[Orestes]

Cato June was decent, but obviously would have been better at LB. They were good back in the Marcus Ray days. Seriously, that has to be the biggest weakness Michigan has had in recent years.

[Peake]

Cato was another a little above average S. I agree with you 100%. Ray was one of those guys like Marlin Jackson who also moved to DB at one point.

[Peake]

This is a game Michigan can win. There d is suited to stop a power attack. Did anyone see the shot Minor put on the DL? WOW!

[Orestes]

Yes. I thought Michigan would either win or just barely lose this one. Michigan is built to win this game. Their D-line is good, and on the other side Hoyer is a mistake waiting to happen.

[Peake]

Please tell me you saw Brown give up a long pass, than a TD?

[Peake]

I know people are saying this could be a huge win for MSU. That this is a game that could put the program on route to being where Dantonio wants them to be. I disagree strongly. This team that MSU has is its best since probably 2000, and they are tied with a very bad UM team going into the 4th. Michigan will roll MSU next season.

Also, I know a lot of you buckeyes like him, but I think he is an immature terd. The guy gets in verbal confrentations with Michigans players. Come on!

[Orestes]

I like his angst and fire. I don't mind his "pride comes before the fall comments" but he shouldn't have mentioned Hart's height.

I'm not sure this is that great of a MSU team, at least compared to their past teams. Hoyer isn't very good. The line is being abused in pass-pro as they were by OSU. The WRs are also very average. They are also good on defense but not great. They are a typical 9-3 type of team, maybe 8-4 IMO.

[85inside]

So, Rodriguez loses to Toledo. Never had a Michigan coach lost to a MAC school.
Then he loses to Penn State. Something no other Michigan coach had done.
Now he loses to Michigan State by 2 TD's. Michigan had won 6 straight over the Spartans.
What a hire? And you talk about Dantonio's immaturity? What a joke!

[Peake]

Well if they are a 9 or 8 game type of team than that would be like winning the super bowl for them. I just see them with little coming back next season.

I also love on the OSU board talking about how MUS is benifiting from RRod being at UM and in-state recruiting. MSU has nabbed some pretty good players out of Michigan when Lloyd was there. Michigan has gotten the top two players in the state the past two season and they are saying the tides have turned. MSU's recruiting class isn't even in the top 25. They got two kids that Michigan went after, that's it. What I am worried about are teams liks USC and LSU grabbing some top kids from Michigan. Barksdale went to LSU and Smith and Rojo both went to USC.

[Peake]

85 your posts are ignorant. Lloyd lost to MSU twice in his career. It took a miracle for UM to beat Ball State in 07. Michigan lost to PSU in 1994, just like everyone else on their schd did that season (they went undefeated). This was not a typical two td loss game. The final score did not indicate what type of game this was. Yes Michigan had won 6 straight over MSU, and 4 of those were decided by less than a TD.

I saw a lot of positives out there today. Is it RR fault that Threet refuses to look off a safety or throws into double coverage? Is it his fault that the secondary can't tackle in space? You are only as good as your players.

What did RR do to make hi so immature? Nothing.

You are a typical a-hole fan that has nothing to add to the board except hand out insults about a team that you make no educated statements about.

[Just_A_Fan]

I tought we should have won this game like alot of games this year. For us to get to a bowl now we need to win out. The O is getting better, Treet does needs to look off a safety. Our D played really good keeping us in the game late, MSU only drove down the field what once. We gave up I think two big plays.

The future does look bright.