Michigan v. Purdue

[Peake]

Winning 28-14....

I see some of that young talent carrying Michigan. Martavious Odoms with a nice PR for a TD, and Daryl Stonum burns Purdue for his first TD reception of 51 yards.

[Sue E. Side]

Purdue storms back for the W.

[Peake]

I think it was more Michigan handed another game over, rather than Purdue storming back. It is so frustrating watching the UM offense start to do some positive things, than watch a defense that is loaded with experience and talent struggle. Rumor has it Schafer (DC) will be gone by the end of the week, I say make it tonight!

[Sue E. Side]

What ever the Hell you want to call it Purdue came back and scored 21 unanswered points to take the lead. They also had 522 total yards of Offense. They had 5 drives that went more than 60 yds for touchdowns. Michigan only had one turnover so Im not going to just take credit away from Purdue. Either way its another loss for the Blue

[Peake]

Geesh calm down. Take a chill pill. Seems like OSU fans are worried more about making Michigan fans feel worse than we already do. We are not good, I get it. Michigan also had Purdue in 3rd-and-long on several different occassions and let them out of it by giving a cushion of 10 yards.

You are correct, Michigan lost again. I did see a much better offense on the field for UM today.

The last 4 out of 5 games, Michigan has led at the half. This defense is the worst I have ever seen at Michigan.

[claypantherfan]

Yeah for the most part the offense was there but the small mistakes will hurt you I really like the way a healthy Brandon Minor plays i said at the beiginig of the year he should have been the starter sso i hope next year he plas like this the whole time

[Sue E. Side]

LoL I did not mean to come off that strong, I guess it sounded different when I was saying it in my head. I do not care how other fans feel because I have my own team that is struggling to worry about. I just love football no matter who is playing. I don't like Michigan but I don't like Purdue either. I was just saying I thought Purdue came back with those unanswered points but if you want to say they handed it over its fine also. I know how it feels when your team loses and you felt like they should have won, others are a little biased against your team and make it look worse than it is. Sorry if I came off strong there. Also I picked Michigan to win this week so that made me a little upset.

[Peake]

Well Michigan also muffed a punt on the 5 that gave Purdue the football on the 12. They also watched Purdue convert on a 4th and 13 fake punt that led to a TD.

I am just mad because Michigan can't hold a lead for anything. They led Illinois at one point by two TD's, MSU by two TD's, PSU by two TD's, and now they led Purdue on two occassions by two TD's and couldn't hold on.

It is very frustrating. It feels to me like the offense is growing, while the defense has packed it in.


Sorry about your pick, they messed me over as well.

[mister b]

Purdue had 522 yards of offense, Michigan 300.

I really thought this would be a Michigan win and they would pile up more yardage against the Boilermakers.

Minor had a great game with 155 yds rushing.

On both sides of the ball, the players are having to learn totally new schemes. Very surprised Purdue won this one.

[85inside]

Thats right, fire the D coordinator. I was actually counting that game as one of their 3 wins. Gotta scramble for that 3rd win now.

[noreply66]

Down goes Meatchicken
Down goes Meatchicken
1-2-3-4-5-6-7----almost counting them up---of the big 10--helo Mr. Mac

[Peake]

Let me ask, did anyone actually see the game aside from me? Michigan had fewer possessions, and also had less yards mostly due to short field (great returns all day). Michigan moved the ball very easily against Purdue, problem is Purdue moved the ball even easier.

Purdue should have started the freshman all season. He is a dual threat, much harder to defend than than the previous.

That is right fire the D coordinator and fire DB coach. One thing I am tired of is RRod bringing in his buddies to coach.

[85inside]

I must admit, as fascinating as the prospects were, I did not watch this game. 70 degree temps, yesterday had my grass growing and i watched all day.

Did you ever think that Michigan, after they hired the genius that is Rich Rodriguez, would finish last in the Big Ten? I had them beatting the hapless Boilermakers yesterday, so they may not get to the magical 3 win total.

[Peake]

I never would have thought it, but I don't think many UM fans would have ever thought we would be this inexperienced and young. We are the most inexperienced offense in the country. Only 2 starters came back.

I do see growth in the offense. Michigan has led at half the last 4 of 5 games. Brandon Minor has had 3 great games. Martavious Odoms has been very good as a true freshman. Boubacar Cissoko, Kevin Koger, and Mike Martin have all had very solid freshman years. Daryl Stonum caught his first college TD yesterday. I see growth.

The disappointing thing has been the defense. THe linebacking core has been terriable. Obi Ezeh looks like an All-Big Ten player one week, the next he looks like he should be playing for a local high school team. The other linebackers are just bad at this point. Jonus Mouton is a great rush linebacker because of his speed and athleticism, but he is a converted Safety, so he is still learning. John Thompson may be the most unathletic linebacker I have ever seen. The safeties, lets not talk about them.

Rich Rod the genius? He had done a very good job with a terriable offense. No one is claiming that he is a defensive matermind, just as no one would say Urban Myer is a defensive genius. He won 3 games his first season at WVU, just wait.

[85inside]

I thought your post was very very good....up until you compared Rich rodriguez and urban Meyer. RR has to win something, before he gets in that company.

For the sake of the Big Ten, I hope your right about the Michigan program. It doesnt do anyone any real good, having Michigan go 2-10 or 3-9. I just dont think RR will get the job done.

[Just_A_Fan]

RR will get the job down just give him time to get his type of players. You will see how much diff this team is next year. Michigan's record IMO doesn't really show how good this team can be at times. Just our team being mostly Fresh. is hurting badly.

[85inside]

You are Michigan for crying out loud. 2-7. Maize and Blue, winged helmets...My goodness. Excuses for this guy are unreal.

[Peake]

All programs struggle, it is not an excuse. 33 straight bowls says something about the program. 40 straight years of winning records says that this program has been way over due to have a down year. USC if I am not mistaken had more than one bad year recently. Put Oklahoma, Texas, and a few other top programs in that same catagory. Michigan lost 7 players to the NFL and two more went on free agent contracts, that is 9 players lost from a team that should have competed for a NC and didn't.

Did you really expect things would be peachy this soon? Let me answere for you. I personally thought Michigan at worst would win 6 games, but I to was fooled by the "We are Michigan" statements. Everyone else is entitled to have great players as well, not just UM.

I am not making an excuse just stating a fact, Michigan returned two starters from last season on offense. Those two players were just above average players, not gamebreakers. The best offensive player this season or most consistant has been Martavious Odoms. That is not a good thing when a Frosh is your best offensive weapon from a success standpoint. The offensive line after Boren left returned only two players with any experience at all. Name one offensive line that is as inexperienced as Michigan.

I do agree with eveyone this defense makes everyone want to puke. The LB core is still way too young. Obi has under performed for th most part, and he was the anchor. I remind you he is only a RSophomore, so all is not lost. Also, it took David Harris 4 years to become a dominate LB at Michigan(who Obi has been compared to), and now he is one of the leading tacklers in the NFL. Mouton is what he is, an athlete. The rest of the LB core are just inexperienced. At one point this season Michigan was starting a RSoph, RSoph, and RFreshman at LB this season. That can't happend if you want to be successful.

The secondary has been terrible. Brown is a very good athlete, but should be moved to LB. Stewart is very smart, but does not have the athletic ability. Morgan Trent has nothing but top end speed, no hip turn. You can blow by him and than he can run you down, lol. Warren is playing below his skill level, but than again he is only a sophomore, and he is a pure press corner, and Morgan sucks so bad they are forced into playing deep zone. Bradon Harrison has been pathetic his entire career.

The Dline for the most part has been solid. Brandon Grahm has already said he is coming back. He is a aboslute stud, but other than him, everyone else has been a bust. Mike Martin the freshman has been very solid, and Ryan Van Bergan has had his moments as a RFreshman, but again, if you are relieing on a handful of Freshman, expect freshman mistakes.

So I have no excuses. RRod was delt a bad hand in the first place. This is the worst team top ot bottom Michigan has had in--------you fill in the blank. He must first get rid of guys like Carson Butler and start over. Next he needs to get rid of the D-Coordinator. He has to go, though he is not the only one on the defense. RR needs to let a few of his buddies go. Go out and get a DC who is on the same page with RR and the entire staff. If I were RR I would appoint Jay Hopsin (current LB coach) to associate DC right now!

Lastly, he needs to recruit his a$$ off, and I feel he has been doing a pretty good job. Are they OSU kids, not yet, but some of them are. He is getting kids to fit what he wants to do, and that is ok with me. If he doens't produce next season (meaning at the very least 6 to 7 wins and a win over OSU at home) than I will be very very upset.

[85inside]

Rodriguez was not "dealt a bad hand," he chose his hand. He was not forced to take the Michigan job. Carr would have been 5-4 minimum right now.

[mister b]

Rodriguez was not "dealt a bad hand," he chose his hand. He was not forced to take the Michigan job. Carr would have been 5-4 minimum right now.

I agree.

I doubt RR will get rid of Tony Gibson (DB coach) since he was a former player for him at Glenville and had been on his staff at WVU since 2001.

RR suffers from an extreme case of narcissism and surrounds himself with those who will stroke his ego, Gibson is one of those. The DB's at WVU were poorly coached under his (Gibson's) guidance. Since Gibson has also been given the title of asst head coach, I doubt if he is going anywhere until he gets another job on his own.

Still, RR can motivate his players to play better than what they are capable of. I think OSU should not take UM lightly this year. They will be a very dangerous team to play on the last week of the season or the rest of the season since they aren't going to a bowl game this year.