Sportsmanship is dead!!!

[loneranger]

loganhoops and 1987chieftans, I agree that fundamentals and fun are key at this age level. The kids had fun playing in that game, a few parents did say their kids got scared. I've seen a lot of youth bball games but have never seen a coach get a technical. "The Stripes" and friends kept the peace, but no matter what they say to your face, they are probably whistlin a different tune in their head. These teams were picked to win tournaments not lose. Maybe, if the outcome was different nobody would have talked about it. But the team that did win had some unsportsmanlike conduct, which makes you feel the burn. This game was about winning for the adults, that is plain and simple. Anybody, that says that's not what it is all about needs to be honest with themselves.When parents/grandparents get involved it's emotional, how they handle it is revealing. Most people don't concentrate on the fun when their kids out there playing. They yell swing in the bleachers at the ballpark so little kids will strike out, retain their kids a year so they'll have an edge in sports, brag about stacking their Tball team, and the list goes on. What makes people do it? It may be watching their kid succeed so they can feel better about themselves. Maybe, they are living vicariously through their kids and want the win no matter what the cost this time around. Most would probably say they just love their kid and want them to be a winner. Maybe they were great athletes and think their kid should be too or maybe they weren't and they really want their kid to be good.

[1987chieftains]

loneranger you said it in 1 sentence " living vicariously through there kids." thats the biggest problem with a few ppl.

[wobycat]

I believe officials take too much. Officials are blamed for losses and not keeping games under control, these statements are false. I was reffing a game where I was admittedly wrong on a block/charge call, really I was not in position to see the off. player use the forearm to shove off. I T'd up the coach for yelling about the call and he kept yelling about how his players were getting hurt. I may have made the wrong call but I did not cause the contact. Coaches are supposed to instruct the players on how to play the game and the rules including you can not displace another player off or def by contact. Also How can an official be blamed for shooting 25% from the field.

In my pre-game meeting with the captains, I ask them if they are good foul shooters, and usually they agree but then I ask them if they miss a few and they agree. I then demonstrate that while I may be a good official that I will miss a few to. A good official is one who studies the rules and tries to hustle on every play. If you think you can do better take the class and become one, other wise shut up and enjoy the contest. If your going to yell, yell at your coach for not drawing up the right play or yell at your kid for missing the free throw, make sure you look like your going to have a heart attack when you do so.

until officials become more strict in the games, especially biddy games, this will continue. Half the biddy coaching staff dont know the rules, like the over the back rule, which does not even exist.

[Bring the Heat]

is over the back a foul when rebounding a basketball?
Officials should only make a foul call when contact is made. Just like the basketball rules term “reaching in,” over the back is not a foul until contact is made


You see the term is not called "over the back" but shoving when contact is made.
Yes this is a foul. if no contact is made then a call doesn't have to made.
so granted you don't say over the back but shoving which in laymen s terms is what?

I hope you do know this. Terminology can also be tricky for even Refs to interrupt.

[wobycat]

The word, shove, should not and does not even enter a ref's vocabulary. Push would be the correct term. A player can jump vertically and grab the rebound behind another player as long as he/she does not displace(or gain advantage) the player in front of him/her. This happens a lot in biddy ball. A bigger player will reach over the player in front if them and take the ball. Everyone thinks this is illegal but if no push or displacement had occurred then no foul.

My point of the argument was to show how the majority of biddy coaches who probably are coaching because of their kid playing, don't know that much about the rules. I thought I knew them all until I took the class.