SOC scores for boys

[Hitops2.0]

valley 7th grade over burg 7th 33 to 27 or close to that and burg 8th over valley 8th 47 - 32 i think.

[crazymidgets]

hmm lopsided calling isnt that interesting, you do know at home wavery had 7 more fouls called on them than west did, and no neither of the refs were rookies not saying they are great but they do a lot of games and will probably be 2 of the fairer refs u will see this yr (wait till u get to burg it was 29-8 in fouls called).
Take the win west was lucky to get out of their with it, The center probably should have been on the line when he got mugged with the last shot we had with about 12 seconds left, he didnt get the shot off but no one touched the ball thats pretty hard to do!!!
So you might want to reconsider and just say it was a good win, those were 2 very evenly matched teams we sat a starter and u say u had one missing. you want to whine about winning and blame why you barely won, cant wait to hear about when u lose and who's fault that was.
Fact of the matter Waverly outplayed west in the 2nd half creating turnovers and hitting their shots and if u take away the 30 footer at the end of the half hmmm.

[crazymidgets]

waverly-minford, minfords 7th grade won handily, waverly's 7th grade team struggled not playing as a team offensively or defensively and until they play as we instead of me they will continue to struggle, and minfords 7th grade team is very solid.
8th grade game Waverly won 45-39 in overtime, waverly led by as many as 12 but minford started hitting their 3's and fought back to a 4 point lead as late as 2 minutes to go but waverly made a 3 point play, and hit a 3 pointer taking the lead unitil at the buzzer minford hit a 3 to put the game into overtime. Great effort by minford coming back from a big deficit. Waverly has Oak hill tonight had 2 good games with them last yr.

[The Beast]

Notre Dame's 7th grade and 8th grade pick up two victories over East on Wednesday at NDHS.

[pdracing23]

Crazymidgets,

I am not too sure that the Waverly 7th grade not playing as a team has a whole lot to do with the kids or the player that i believe you may be talking about. The Waverly 7th grade has not ran one single offensive set this season. In the West game for instance the tigers were down 12 at half and not a single timeout was used by the Waverly bench. If you are down by 12 you are obviously not doing everything right. You have 5 timeouts why not take one to teach the kids a little something. Why not take the time to tell your only player that can get the ball up the court that he picked up a stupid foul early and to be smart because you can't compete without him on the floor. Why not take a timeout and tell your center to front the post. If you are 5'5 150 wouldn't it make since to front a guy that is 6'2 220? I haven't seen too many 7th graders that can or will even attempt to make a pass over the top to the post.

The 7th grade tigers do not have a great deal of talent on the team i realize that. I just think it may be a little unfair to put the tag on the kids as not playing as a team when the coaching staff seems content with letting one player handle the burden of everything. If you watch a game when the point guard throws the ball to someone else they just do everything they can to get it back to him. There is no offense being ran.

[crazymidgets]

So you agree its not WE basketball then, all you had to do was say WE agree! WE can be any combination of things but its still the same thing (not WE ie. TEAM basketball), I didnt call anybody out but obviously you think someone is doing to much well I guess WE agree. Are WE clear! You win as a team and u lose as a team. Only player huh guess the relatives need to learn about team as well.

[WestSportsFan]

Crazymidget,

Did I say that the calls were fouls? And if the refs have several games under their belt why haven't the moved to the next level? I don't I know how you could be standing right next to the play under the basket and point to the ref at half court to make the call. Also, It's pretty amazing how you can have 7 seconds on the clock shoot a foul shot get an offensive reboud shoot again and rebound and only take 1 second off the clock. Also Waverly may want to look at getting adults to run the clock, they also messed up in the 7th grade game and gave West basket to Waverly, thought they corrected by adding 2 to West but kept Waverly 2 that they didn't get. Anyway game over 2 more wins for WEST and like I said before Waverly may have played a good game, but West didn't I don't see it being close at all next time.

[pdracing23]

Ok midget i knew what you were referring to to begin with. Just thought i would go ahead and say it. Do i think one player is doing too much? I think one player is being forced into doing to much.

As far as relatives need to learn the team concept. Obviously you think you know who i am. So to put it out there i am a relative of the player in question. I have put in countless hours with him to make him the best basketball player he can be. I do want to see him succeed and do want him to be TAUGHT the fundamentals of the game. I guess as a relative of a Waverly athlete i will have to learn that winning isn't all that important anymore. I have played juco and division 1 college basketball, I have played for two of the best high school basketball coaches in Ohio (Doug Stiverson, Rick Van Metre) I don't claim to know everything about the game but i think i have had some pretty good mentors in the area of TEAM basketball.

If the current point gaurd is not the only one that can get the ball up the court then answer me Why is he playing there??? He is not a point guard. He is a scorer and a shooter. He should be playing 2 guard IMO.

[crazymidgets]

Yeah they checked the scorebook Waverly 8th won by 3 great job tigers

[crazymidgets]

ok you want to help him and his team. the guard during the zone press should as soon as they draw the double team pass, now you have numbers and you are not wearing out the player instead of trying to break the press singlehandedly, if you dont get the fastbreak then the motion offense which is what they are supposed to run every possession is started. As soon as the guard gets the ball his eyes should be focused on the rim toward which he is heading so he can periphaly? see the play unfold in front of him so that he can involve the rest of the team, thats what I was taught 35 yrs ago and they taught the same thing at my sons camp this yr so things havent changed much.
Even the greatest of players could not win championships without knowing their role. It took Wilt Chamberlin how many yrs to win one , michal jordan (all defensive 1st. team) after he figured it out won six, dr j got one. Bill Russel knew it from the beginning and won 11. Great Players make their teammates better players. How many times in the history of the nba or college basketball has the leading scorer of the league won the championship? Now this is jr high but this is an invaluable lesson.
As a parent, relative, coach this should be the one of the formost fundamentals of how the game is played. WE not ME is what basketball is about. And if you really played for Van Meter Im sure he taught the same thing pass it on.

[pdracing23]

To answer your question
Shaquille O'neal
Michael Jordan
Lew Alcindor
George Mikan
Joe Fulks
To name a few i can recall that won an NBA championship while being the leagues scoring leader.

I have ran a motion offense since i was in the 3rd grade i don't see any of that happening on the seventh grade team. You don't put a guy in the post on the block if you are running a motion offense. That kinda makes it hard to hit a cutter going to the basket. I am not the COACH thats what i am saying. There needs to be some coaching done. Things were much better tonight with Coach Stulley at the Helm. They ran a few plays and everything. I am totally agreeing with you that the point guard has alot to learn about being a point guard but as a spectator i can not help him learn from his mistakes during a game like a coach should. We can talk about it all we want after the game but it doesn't do justice to teaching during the action. My whole point during this thread has been that there is not a lot of coaching going on right now. If you want my honest opinion relative or not the current point guard would not play for me with where he is at with his game right now. He is a very good offensive basketball player (not a point guard) but the way he is playing defense he wouldn't log many minutes for me.

[THE GOVENOR]

Symmes Valley 7th grade beat Eastern 63-32 and Eastern 8th beat Symmes Valley 47-29

[buddy]

clays 7th grade beat east and easts 8th grade beat clay

[jason bourne]

burg 7th and 8th boys both won against south webster,

7th 41 - 20 i believe, 2-1 now
8th 65 - 40 , 3-0 now

[crazymidgets]

6 in 62 yrs not many and u didnt even find one in college, these 6 were also the dominant defensive players at their positions so you get the point, offense wins ballgames defense wins championships.
They played like a team tonight much better and the results were VICTORY. imagine that

[crazymidgets]

Waverly 7th and 8th grade beat oak hill last night hopefully this will carry over into friday with the varsity getting a sweep of the oaks.
Good seeing some of the high school players coming over and supporting the jr high, the boys really appreciate this and they will be there Friday night cheering loud.

[The Beast]

ND 7th and 8th grade over Green at the Furnace on Thursday evening.

[B0UNCE]

seems like dunn is getting the big head. i'm sure his team helped out a lot!!!!!! valley 7th is a good team but one person can't take all the credit for the win

[west siders]

west 8th grade over valley 8th 47-21. WEST WAS DOMINATE FROM THE TIP!!!!!!!!!!

[bulkmove]

How about an update on each teams record for 7th and 8th?