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LETS STAY ON THIS AND GET IT PLANNED

Alright here we go, Ohio Bracket, Kentucky bracket. We can alternate between the sites. of course the CG field being turf would be a great way to keep the field from being destroyed. South Point also, on the Ohio side. Now as far as the KY side of things we have to find a place to play. Russell is usually still playing in Novemebr so that rules out the HS field. our JFL field would be open. So we can do this. PLay in your bracket and the top 2 come out. Play inverted 2;1-1:2 first game and then play the BOWL game. Can do this on one weekend. The 4 teams play Saturday and then the Championship on Sunday around 3p. This does not interupt church time. Game should be no longer than 2 hours so it would be over by 5pm.

Now If Raceland could do the honors by making an Ohio Bracket and a Kentucky bracket in the Black Bowl, we could pick the top 4. Those top 4 could play in the championship round at the other field on the following weekend. BUT I do know that the bowl is set up for teams to NOT play teams they see all year, so this defeats the purpose.

So back to square one.. We could also look at charging 100.00 from each team in the final 4. This would cover trophies, T-shirts, pictures and a banner. NOW if we can find a sponsor for the River Cities Bowl, we would not be out any money. You could sell T-shirts to the public-(parents) to make a little extra. T-shirts can be as low as 4 dollars to print. Sell for 10-15$. the extra money would be split between the teams for their banquet.

You know I can also see a LARGE year ending banquet for all the RCFL- oh that would be the River Cities Football League. This could be interesting.

If we can actually get a date set I can chaeck with our AD at Coal Grove high school and make sure the field is available and reserve it. If there is nothing scheduled for the field that date we won't have a problem getting it.

Is this just for the ateam (5thand 6th) or the bteam (3rd and 4th) also? If it is for both we would need to start about 1:30 or 2:00 on the Sunday game to get it in.

5/6th only

I think the only way this could happen is if each side of the river came to some common groung rules.From what i understand there is a big difference in the weight limit for running backs across the creek!I heard that russell had a tackle in the backfield as a blocking back and a 3-3 back.I think there should be some type of middle ground as far as the weight limit,or honor some league rule as what to folow.From what i understand,if you play inKY you follow their rules,if you play in O-H-I-O you go by their rules.I think the people who want to organize this should get get together and make a standing set of rules! To take this one step further i think people are doing the right things,and it should be looked at expanding the two leagues as one.This would be great for the kids and would be great for the money of the programs.It was stated earlier that raceland would bring in12,000-15,000 on the toury.I think that every program in the general area could stand that kind of boost to their financial account,after we all know that we want to put our kids in the best that our league can provide!

The only way our tackles are in the backfield is if we are on defense and we are in your backfield. We have no tackles in our backfield. The biggest back we have Logan Suman and he is around 120 pounds if that. The is not big for a middle school back in most cases. Granted all of our other backs are smaller than him but I have seen bigger backs in the backfield at RH. I know that Jake is tall but he prolly weighs the same as Suman. Suman is just shorter and stockier than JAKE.....
Jake is great back and a great kid and it would be a shame if he did not get to run the ball because he is to big...
I would say a common max weight would be around 135-140 for 6th graders and depending on the kids they may be actually older than others due to birthdate compared to grade they are in.

The way the league for CG, RH, SV etc.(Teen OVC) works is that the boys can't be over 135 in the backfield. Everyone must be 12 or under on August 1st of the year you are playing. This is for the A team(5-6grade). I'm not sure about the requirements for SP, Chesy, and Fairland . There's about 2 months before the River Bowl , maybe we could get contact numbers for all the teams that would be interested and have the meeting you were suggesting to get everything worked out before it gets too far into the season.

As I've told Devil Our b-teams seem to be comparable to teen ovc a team in ages. However our b-teams consist of any kid 10 or under between 110-125 lbs. 11 yr olds can only weigh 100 lbs. Also our league age is figured from your age as of July 31 the year you are playing. The grade you are in plays no part whatsoever. we had talked to Raceland about going to their Orange bowl if they had any open dates but nobody called us back. As I said our Turf Bowl is the first weekend in Nov at Marshall Stadium. We would love to have the oppurtunity to see how we stack up to the other 6th grade teams in this area. If anyone would like to scrimmage just pm me and we'll try to work it out
Clayton Dement

Russell will always look for scrimmages. The DEVILS have around 28 kids, if you split them in half you have 2 teams. We can scrimmage against 2 teams if need be. If another team has alot of kids, that would be good. I would love to see a Tri-State champion but i think that there are too many different requirements from all the different leagues.
Here is one option. The backs can not weigh over 130 pounds, lineman -no limit. The child has to be in 6th grade and has never been held back to run the ball. Which is the child must be in the 6th grade and not played in the 6th grade last year to be able to advance the ball. This of course is a coaches responsibility to maintain: if you are found to be in violation, the team involved will not be able to play in the championship for the next year and the team coming into the 6th grade will also not be able to compete. So this rule affects 2 teams not just the one. " I dont care I am gonna play little ____ and hopefully I dont get caught." WELL if you do that and get caught not only will you affect your team but the coaches and the team coming behind you. If you get caught cheating, your league and the coaches behind you will have your head.

RULE 1:
A team may only consist of players who are in 6th grade or below, but may not advance the ball if they are held back and should be in a grade ahead.
RULE 2:
A player who advances the ball from the backfield shall not weigh more than 130 pounds at the time of weigh in before the game or tourney.
RULE 3:
Lineman may have no limit to their weight.
RULE 4:
Any coach in violation of these rules shall be barred from playing the following year and their following years team will be also barred from competing for the championship the following year.

I think that were getting real technical with all the little rules.AS FAR AS ROCK HILLS BACK WEIGHING AS MUCH AS THE RUSSELL BACK I DONT KNOW BUT I SURE HEARD ALOT ABOUT THE WEIGHT LIMIT!i do know that the kid from rock hill is under the teen o.v.c. weight limit.If we can pull this thing together i think we should contact other teams from other leagues and make this a tri-state event.Take the league champ from each league and get the tourny rolin!I do agree that a rep from each league should be present and have a say in the guidelines.The one thing i think wyou should watch out for would be the weight limit on running backs.If teen o.v.c. has one good rule it is the weight limit.I think this will be the biggest obstacle that the river city bowl has to overcome,just what i have heard.

If you make that 6th grade rule stick you will rule out all TSYFL teams As I said in our league the grade you are in is inconsequential. Our league age cutoff is July 31. No child on our b-team can turn 12 before that date and be eligible.A lot of leagues have a 7th grader there because of that rule.We have 1, he is 72 lbs but it is all heart. While he would sacrifice and not go(he and his parents have said this). I would not think of attending any tournament without him. This is not cheating this is basically the same age format little league baseball uses for it's eligibility requirements.As I said before our biggest kid would be 125 lbs,well more than that by that time as our kids get 1/2 pound growing weight per week, even on our line,so we have what might be considered a liability also.We wouldnt think of asking everyone to abide by our weight limits so I dont think our age requirements should hold us out. If it does so be it and good luck to all those that do attend.
Clayton Dement

1. Backs can not be over 135 pounds.
2. No limit on lineman
3. Players must be in the 6th grade or meet the age requirements of the TSYFL.

Kentucky has no limits on 1 or 2. So that takes care of the Ohio side of things. The age bracket takes care of the TSYFL side of things so that should help.

So Kentucky can play with these rules. Lets here it from Ohio and West Virginia.
This should make it simple unless you guys can find something else to work out. I am okay with getting this started. I would be willing to say that Russell would host the first TRI-STATE CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR. This will be held the second week-end of November and will be called the "BATTLE FOR THE ROCK !!!!!"
I will work on getting a trophy for the championship.

Let me know TSYFL, and we can work out the other details.

I will take it up with some folks in TSYFL but those rules you put down seem fair to me. The big problem will be convincing the winner to extend their season a week. I am all for it but you never know about those guys fromWV

GREAT, Lets hear from the OVC and see what they think. What is the age cut off now???
Just wondering. We need to make sure that the date is good and teams will have to bring Birth Certificates and School report cards for players. This just keeps it even.
What do you think about that or do you just want to trust the coach... Big question and I am up for discussion on it.
Let me know.

SEEMS LIKE THIS THING IS GETTING OFF OF THE GROUND,KEEP PULLING IT TOGETHER AND THIS WILL BE A GREAT SEASON ENDER FOR ALL THAT ARE INVOLVED.THE O.V.C. FOLLOWS THE RULES OF ELIGIBILITY OF THE OHSAA,IF A CHILDS AGE ALLOWS HIM TO PLAY AS A SENIOR THEY CAN PLAY IN THE LEAGUE.I THINK IT IS 13 AFTER AUGUST 1 YOU ARE STILL ABLE TO PLAY.I'M NOT 100% CERTAIN OF THE WAY THAT THE RULE READS.ON THE WEIGHT ISSUE O.V.C. IS 135 FOR RUNNING BACKS WITH NO LIMIT FOR LINE.THE KIDS ARE WEIGHED IN ONE TIME AT THE START OF SEASON.I PERSONALLY LIKE THE WEIGHT LIMIT RULE,I THINK IT IS BEST FOR THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS.

on a mission wrote:SEEMS LIKE THIS THING IS GETTING OFF OF THE GROUND,KEEP PULLING IT TOGETHER AND THIS WILL BE A GREAT SEASON ENDER FOR ALL THAT ARE INVOLVED.THE O.V.C. FOLLOWS THE RULES OF ELIGIBILITY OF THE OHSAA,IF A CHILDS AGE ALLOWS HIM TO PLAY AS A SENIOR THEY CAN PLAY IN THE LEAGUE.I THINK IT IS 13 AFTER AUGUST 1 YOU ARE STILL ABLE TO PLAY.I'M NOT 100% CERTAIN OF THE WAY THAT THE RULE READS.ON THE WEIGHT ISSUE O.V.C. IS 135 FOR RUNNING BACKS WITH NO LIMIT FOR LINE.THE KIDS ARE WEIGHED IN ONE TIME AT THE START OF SEASON.I PERSONALLY LIKE THE WEIGHT LIMIT RULE,I THINK IT IS BEST FOR THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS.

Rule 1. No backs over 135.
Rule 2. No limit on linemen.
Rule 3. Must be 12 or under on Agust 1st. (Can not be 13 on August 1st.)

This take care of the rules I guess.
I can check to see if we can host the first one.
Second weekend in November which November 8th a Saturday and November 9th.

How about this.
The hosting league gets 2 teams.
Kentucky 1
vs
OVC 1 game one on Saturday


Kentucky 2
vs
TSYFL game 2 on Saturday

Winner of these two games play for first and second,
non-winners of the day before play for 3-4.
That gives everybody 2 games and to see where they stand.

The next year if OVC host the Championship then they get 2 teams in the championship and the TSYFL and Kentucky get one. The following year the TSYFL gets 2 teams in the BOWL and Kentucky and OVC get one team. So the hosting league gets 2 teams and so on. The game should go to the winner of the league and the second place team gets to play for a championship.

Just a thought on this guys....... I kinda like it.

R U WANTING TO LIMIT THIS TO JUST 4 TEAMS?

WELL I thought it was just to find the champion of the Tri-State. We could open this up to 4/5th grade teams as well or how do guess we do it. I would like to complete it all on Saturday and Sunday.

As far as the 5-6 grade game goes if you want to guarantee a TSYFL team you should probably open it up to more teams. The turf bowl winner could be from WV and the winner may not want to play an extra week. As for an Ohio team the only ones in TSYFL are Fairland Chesapeake and South Point. Thats just a suggestion and maybe using champs from the various leagues as a bye and let the rest of the field play it out. Just a suggestion. Lots of details to work out but very possible and potentially awesome.
Clayton Dement