Will Catholics In Ohio decide this election?

[kantuckyII]

I was baptized, indoctrinated, brain washed and ordered around until I learned enough that I didn't need others thinking for me. I'm great friends with our Priest, join in the parish activities, but I'm NOT a "practicing" Catholic. Doesn't bother our Priest at all. And it frankly isn't any of your bigoted, racist business, mr. holier than thou

Well, actually, by The Bible itself it IS my business but I simply asked you how you could be Cathloic and be atheists - I can assure you, you cannot

[kantuckyII]

Accept this? (Abuck doesn't either but) it's a profession of faith in the Catholic Church

We believe in God, the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
and all that is seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he was born of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered, died, and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in fulfilment of the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead,
and His kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son
he is worshipped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.

We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.

[kantuckyII]

And frankly, attacking me simply for asking paladin for a clarification is wring and I don't care who u arr

[noreply66]

And frankly, attacking me simply for asking paladin for a clarification is wring and I don't care who u arr

Yes you do --that is why you keep coming back for more

[kantuckyII]

I was baptized, indoctrinated, brain washed and ordered around until I learned enough that I didn't need others thinking for me. I'm great friends with our Priest, join in the parish activities, but I'm NOT a "practicing" Catholic. Doesn't bother our Priest at all. And it frankly isn't any of your bigoted, racist business, mr. holier than thou

And frankly, I'm quite disappointed with you over this whole thing. I simply ask you an intelligent and sincere question and you go off on me like that? If you don't want to be asked questions on here about your statements, do you really think this is the place for you?

[caglewis]

Trust 'tucky to make everything into some "religious" issue attacking/insulting all religious beliefs but his own PERFECT one which HE wants to make into LAW enforceable on all of us.
READ THE CONSTITUTION - views like that are exactly what it was written to PREVENT.
I'm not a Roman Catholic, but why would he single them out? Don't we ALL get to VOTE?
I consider Religion "outside the purvue" a "non-question"; and insulting/belittling/enforcing or "demanding proof" of BELIEF in ANY Religion is unconstitutional by definition in this USA - 'tucky's doing/espousing those things is indicative of hateful oppressive Taliban-style or the IRA religious thinking! Let's all hate Catholics/Protestants or Muslims or gays or people of color or females.. just make HATE the primary message of governance - that's what Republicans say!
BTW - I'm an ALWAYS VOTER OHIO resident - I guess kantucky probably votes elsewhere, but whatever he's hatefully FOR, I'm AGAINST - and vice-versa - And I NEVER PRAY TO HIS GOD!

[abuck76]

tuck that statement proves I am right.......
the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,.........This means two Gods


he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father........beside meaning two distinct people

who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son.........Two people = two Gods................. :12224

[Bear]

Then you have the holy trinity, which is god the son, god the spirit, and god the father. But to each his own I suppose.

[abuck76]

Exacrly......John 3:16 says it .... begotten is used in the bible many times to explain the lineade of father to son and so on .....(Psalm 110:1-2) The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.” .”....................we accept the Biblical definition and usage of the word "God." According to the Bible others can properly be called "God" (Ex.7:1; Ps.8:5; 82:1,6; Jn.10:34). Yet, when angels and humans were called "God" it did not make them Jehovah; nor elevate them to a position equal to Jehovah. The same is true of the Son when he is called "God."

The Scriptures repeatedly separate Jesus from "GOD" and not just from the Father. But they also place Jesus as inferior to "GOD".

For example, the first chapter of Hebrews is dealing with Christ's position *under* Almighty God, not as equal to Him!

Jesus is not all-powerful since it says he has a *God* over him (Heb.1:9)!! God had to subject all things under him (1:13; 2:5,8) and he was "appointed" to his position by *God* (1:2,7; 3:2). He is said to be "God's son" (1:2,5,6,8,), God's "firstborn" (1:6), God is his "father" (1:5), and he is the "reflection" and "image" of God, not God himself (1:3). He is "at God's right hand" (1:3,13). He "obtained" a better name (1:4), he was "anointed" by his superior, God (1:9) etc. etc.

........ :12224

[kantuckyII]

Cagle, I simply am asking a question. I think it is pretty legit when you consider the high percentage of Catholics who live in the state of Ohio. It is their churches teaching that abortion is murder and they also targets conception. The first one I am a strong proponent of, the second unless it induces abortion I have no problem with it myself. That is their teaching, Not most Protestant churches teaching.

Now as far as attacking anyone else's religion I simply paladin then how he could be a Catholic and not be a believer? It's legitimate and honest question And I don't know how anyone could criticize me for asking it. I will say though, that abucks Beliefs are far more Muslim than they are Christian. Either way common he is beliefs are not aligned with the Bible, nor any mainstream church whether it be Protestant or Catholic. That is probably the reason that he does not go to church. No one believes like him Nor does the Bible back him up in any way shape or form.

Secondly I made this post in light of so many Catholic leaders are putting out such strong messages warning it is wrong for a Catholic to support Barack Obama. It would appear, based on this bunch. That their faith in Obama is far stronger than their faith in God. I do realize that this bunch is not typical and other people might have other opinions and conviction.

[Bear]

Because Catholic leaders are intuned to god? Many people are able to think for themselves. Sadly, it is apparent you are not capable. You went on a nearly five year tangant about Obama being the Anti-Christ, being Muslim, or what the heck ever. And now you support a candidate that holds a belief that is more in-line with Scientology than Christianity, while still banging the drum of Obama being evil. You follow who the Glenn Becks and Rush Limbaughs tell you to follow.

[NYBuckeye96]

Most Catholics I know are democrats, especially the ones I know from Ohio.

[kantuckyII]

Because Catholic leaders are intuned to god? Many people are able to think for themselves. Sadly, it is apparent you are not capable. You went on a nearly five year tangant about Obama being the Anti-Christ, being Muslim, or what the heck ever. And now you support a candidate that holds a belief that is more in-line with Scientology than Christianity, while still banging the drum of Obama being evil. You follow who the Glenn Becks and Rush Limbaughs tell you to follow.

I didn't say that about Catholic Leaders, I just asked would the influence of their religion affect and decided the election seeing how Ohio is being considered a 'must win' by many sources. Almost 20% of the population of Ohio is Catholic. That's a large chunk. I think it's a valid question and a very serious one seeing how much of the Catholic leadership has came out so strongly opposed to Obama now. Some even fervently. As far as them being able to influence the final outcome of this election in the state of Ohio, I further personally believe that Catholics, as a whole, will be more likely to vote than the rest of the general population. That's just a hunch, I don't have figures to back up my hunch and dont' claim to.

I never went on a 'five year tangent' but rather, 'a five year tirade' - As far as Romney's beliefs, he's not trying to force us to do things that are against our beliefs, while Obama is. Romney is, by far, the overwhelming more moral of the two men.

I don't follow Glen Beck, or Rush Limbaugh. I have my own brain, my own eyes and ears and I'm NOT brainwashed like so many Obama supporters are.

[dazed&confused]

I don't follow Glen Beck, or Rush Limbaugh. I have my own brain, my own eyes and ears and I'm NOT brainwashed like so many Obama supporters are.

If only that were true, it would be a great step forward. I'd like to take a poll of Obama supporters who are brainwashed by Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, et al.

[kantuckyII]

Well, Mother May I says take one big step forward because I don't listen to either of these guys. Not saying I've never listened to them but I promise you, in all they years, you could count the times on the fingers of your hand

[dazed&confused]

Well, Mother May I says take one big step forward because I don't listen to either of these guys. Not saying I've never listened to them but I promise you, in all they years, you could count the times on the fingers of your hand

Well that makes two of us. Finally, some common ground.