Football/Soccer

GrumpyPundit
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Re: Football/Soccer

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BurgFan43 wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:06 am
GrumpyPundit wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:03 am Gallia Academy has a separate grass field for soccer adjacent to the high school. Unioto plays on a wonderful Bermuda grass soccer field. Hillsboro has a soccer/track complex at its high school.
I have heard about Unioto soccer field is one of the best!! Does it have lights and adequate seating for fans??
Yes, it has lights and the seating is fine.


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Re: Football/Soccer

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BurgFan43 wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:08 am
GrumpyPundit wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:03 am Gallia Academy has a separate grass field for soccer adjacent to the high school. Unioto plays on a wonderful Bermuda grass soccer field. Hillsboro has a soccer/track complex at its high school.
Does Gallia still play on grass for football?? Is Hillboro’s complex grass or turf??

I believe GA still plays football at the often-soggy grass field in town. Hillsboro soccer plays on turf. Their football field is also a grass field in town.


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Re: Football/Soccer

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GrumpyPundit wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:21 am
BurgFan43 wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:08 am
GrumpyPundit wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:03 am Gallia Academy has a separate grass field for soccer adjacent to the high school. Unioto plays on a wonderful Bermuda grass soccer field. Hillsboro has a soccer/track complex at its high school.
Does Gallia still play on grass for football?? Is Hillboro’s complex grass or turf??

I believe GA still plays football at the often-soggy grass field in town. Hillsboro soccer plays on turf. Their football field is also a grass field in town.
It sounds like both programs are treated equally at those schools and that’s awesome! So many times, a single program at a school is provided everything and others barely make it by. A nice football stadium is sitting near a school with lights, seating, locker rooms, and a concession stand but the soccer team plays in a field with holes and a small set of bleachers.


The way the law reads it is a possible Title IX violation when there is adequate facilities available.
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Re: Football/Soccer

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BurgFan43 wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:02 am
GrumpyPundit wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:21 am
BurgFan43 wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:08 am

Does Gallia still play on grass for football?? Is Hillboro’s complex grass or turf??

I believe GA still plays football at the often-soggy grass field in town. Hillsboro soccer plays on turf. Their football field is also a grass field in town.
It sounds like both programs are treated equally at those schools and that’s awesome! So many times, a single program at a school is provided everything and others barely make it by. A nice football stadium is sitting near a school with lights, seating, locker rooms, and a concession stand but the soccer team plays in a field with holes and a small set of bleachers. How is that ok??
You’re going to lose to Ironton again in 2025 , maybe twice if you meet us in the playoffs. But fire whatever shots you have at Ironton


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Kind of gives away game here. Comes in with “genuine curiosity” about soccer fields. Someone from Gallia points out that their fields are a dump and he replies with “I think that’s awesome!”

Want to make clear that, given the posting history, I really doubt BurgFan43 is from Wheelersburg. Don’t see a whole lot of posts about Wheelersburg! Someone with an axe to grind who is now digging up info to paint Ironton’s athletic department under the cover of “Hey I’m just curious about these very specific things.”

I’d even go as far to say you may see one of Ironton’s board members start raising similar questions in private or public soon.


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TigerBob wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:42 pm Kind of gives away game here. Comes in with “genuine curiosity” about soccer fields. Someone from Gallia points out that their fields are a dump and he replies with “I think that’s awesome!”

Want to make clear that, given the posting history, I really doubt BurgFan43 is from Wheelersburg. Don’t see a whole lot of posts about Wheelersburg! Someone with an axe to grind who is now digging up info to paint Ironton’s athletic department under the cover of “Hey I’m just curious about these very specific things.”

I’d even go as far to say you may see one of Ironton’s board members start raising similar questions in private or public soon.
Actually, the gentleman spoke about the soccer field that is next to Gallia HS which if I recall are very nice facilities. I know the HS team also plays on a field downtown which is grass but far from a dump.

As to where someone is from is really no concern to anyone because I haven’t asked you one time about where you are from or what connections you may have. We are in a public site talking about various topics in sports in the SEO region. I can assure you that I am not a board member of any school district nor have any connections to any board members of any district. That is one position I would want no part of in any shape or form. I also can not even tell you who the board members are of your district. I believe you are just using this forum for whatever agenda you may have against a particular person which isn’t right in its own terms. You advice was to visit board meetings or write the board if you have issues using your own advice.
I do find it interesting that you have made posts in the past about people trolling and how people need to be better. You probably should once again follow your own advice and stay on-topic. You see talking soccer and football facilities here. That’s all!


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Re: Football/Soccer

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Larry Fine wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:05 pm
BurgFan43 wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:02 am
GrumpyPundit wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:21 am


I believe GA still plays football at the often-soggy grass field in town. Hillsboro soccer plays on turf. Their football field is also a grass field in town.
It sounds like both programs are treated equally at those schools and that’s awesome! So many times, a single program at a school is provided everything and others barely make it by. A nice football stadium is sitting near a school with lights, seating, locker rooms, and a concession stand but the soccer team plays in a field with holes and a small set of bleachers. How is that ok??
You’re going to lose to Ironton again in 2025 , maybe twice if you meet us in the playoffs. But fire whatever shots you have at Ironton
We are talking soccer and football facilities here. No shots are being fired against anyone. Does Ironton even have a soccer team?? I know St Joe has had one for years. I believe you guys just like to throw jabs at HS sports programs, and I’m not falling into that drama. Please stay on topic or just move on.


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Re: Football/Soccer

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From what I have seen, the quality of all fields is heavily influenced by the folks involved in that sport. Baseball, softball, soccer, football all of them. If there’s a group that want to fundraise and make improvements that’s welcomed, but most districts even with turf have relied heavily on donations to make that happen.

Sports with nice grass fields is usually because the coach, parents, and boosters have put in a little money and whole lot of sweat to make it happen.


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Re: Football/Soccer

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CuckooNest wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 3:43 pm From what I have seen, the quality of all fields is heavily influenced by the folks involved in that sport. Baseball, softball, soccer, football all of them. If there’s a group that want to fundraise and make improvements that’s welcomed, but most districts even with turf have relied heavily on donations to make that happen.

Sports with nice grass fields is usually because the coach, parents, and boosters have put in a little money and whole lot of sweat to make it happen.
I can totally understand if that is the case. If the district did not fund anything then I could see that it wouldn’t be a multi-purpose facility. I know Rock Hill, South Point, and Wheelersburg all have turf and the soccer teams share the facility with the football teams. Even the baseball and softball teams can use it with the wet weather to prepare for the season with the exception of Rock Hill. RH has a turf baseball and softball field.

I guess it depends on what the AD says who can use what facility since they set the schedule.


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Re: Football/Soccer

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I can only speak on Ironton soccer field. I’ve seen multiple games there this season. The field is terrible. Creek runs right beside it. Balls often went into it. Small bleacher. I know a coach who won’t come to play at ironton due to the condition. No lights, no locker room, little seating, concession across the creek at the baseball field. Seems fair that soccer should be able to use the football field as well but I heard that the donor only donated money for the turf if only used for football. My kid stepped in a hole twice in the field of play. How is that fair? I’m sure these kids would love to play under the lights or see highlights on the new scoreboard.


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Re: Football/Soccer

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Lesson of the day:

Don’t accused things are written by someone when you really don’t know. When you get it wrong then your posts are deleted and you get in trouble.

Back to the topic at hand… soccer facilities vs football facilities


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BurgFan43 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:16 am Lesson of the day:

Don’t accused things are written by someone when you really don’t know. When you get it wrong then your posts are deleted and you get in trouble.

Back to the topic at hand… soccer facilities vs football facilities
So this post should be deleted as well. 🤡


BurgFan43
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Re: Football/Soccer

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BigSpoon wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:46 am
BurgFan43 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:16 am Lesson of the day:

Don’t accused things are written by someone when you really don’t know. When you get it wrong then your posts are deleted and you get in trouble.

Back to the topic at hand… soccer facilities vs football facilities
So this post should be deleted as well. 🤡
I’m not sure why you feel my post should be deleted. I did not make untrue remarks saying you was someone when you’re not. :geek:


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BigSpoon wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:03 am
BurgFan43 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:36 am
BigSpoon wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:46 am

So this post should be deleted as well. 🤡
I’m not sure why you feel my post should be deleted. I did not make untrue remarks saying you was someone when you’re not. :geek:
It’s obvious jasun
You must have a comprehension problem because it was proven I am not who you say I am. I don’t even know who that is. Please move on.


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Networking at its finest.... Equal and level playing opportunities for football and soccer are coming to a school near you in 2025.


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BurgFan43 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:00 am Networking at its finest.... Equal and level playing opportunities for football and soccer are coming to a school near you in 2025.
That's not what Title IX protects, but I'll quit trying to convince you otherwise—good luck in your lawsuit

Beyond that, soccer and football do not require the same facilities. They are different sports with different needs. Soccer requires a nice surface, but locker rooms and "nice stands" are not necessary for the kids. Similar to baseball, soccer players keep all their equipment with them—no need for storage, and no need to change clothes directly before/after games. Also, small programs without JV teams can survive without lights just fine. It's the playing surface that truly matters, and a lot of schools let their players down putting their training sites in cow pastures or having them use the same field for games and practices which is unsustainable.

Just because a school lets their soccer team play on the football field, doesn't mean it's a good situation for soccer. Alexander's grass football field is kept way too long, the width sucks, it's domed too much, and the yellow painted lines are often hard to make-out. The soccer teams don't bother to use the locker rooms of course.

Gallia is a nicer facility, but they tend to keep their grass too long and it seems to me that their dimensions are on the smaller side. Unioto is great. Marietta is really good. Warren has been good in recent years minus the end of last season. Logan High School's field is the only shared football/soccer field where the width is good.


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Who Cares about soccer?? LMAO. Your AD thread failed so lets attack something else. Most schools (if not all) Literally would not have a soccer team if it was not for football. Football is what brings in the money. Nobody cares about soccer, outside of the mommy and daddies of their kids who are not able to play football. Maybe Burg should focus on soccer more, because football is not working out for them...


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Re: Football/Soccer

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SoccerDad wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:29 am
BurgFan43 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:00 am Networking at its finest.... Equal and level playing opportunities for football and soccer are coming to a school near you in 2025.
That's not what Title IX protects, but I'll quit trying to convince you otherwise—good luck in your lawsuit

Beyond that, soccer and football do not require the same facilities. They are different sports with different needs. Soccer requires a nice surface, but locker rooms and "nice stands" are not necessary for the kids. Similar to baseball, soccer players keep all their equipment with them—no need for storage, and no need to change clothes directly before/after games. Also, small programs without JV teams can survive without lights just fine. It's the playing surface that truly matters, and a lot of schools let their players down putting their training sites in cow pastures or having them use the same field for games and practices which is unsustainable.

Just because a school lets their soccer team play on the football field, doesn't mean it's a good situation for soccer. Alexander's grass football field is kept way too long, the width sucks, it's domed too much, and the yellow painted lines are often hard to make-out. The soccer teams don't bother to use the locker rooms of course.

Gallia is a nicer facility, but they tend to keep their grass too long and it seems to me that their dimensions are on the smaller side. Unioto is great. Marietta is really good. Warren has been good in recent years minus the end of last season. Logan High School's field is the only shared football/soccer field where the width is good.
Nobody has even mentioned any lawsuits. I agree that all teams require a nice level playing surface. A school just can't tell a school sponsored HS team that they have to play in a field with unsafe playing conditions when another team has great facilities for all. Like I have referenced, Rock Hill is doing a great job with equality with their athletic department. The boys and girls have great facilities in all sports with football and soccer sharing that facility. I know Waverly and Chillicothe also share their space with both programs for both girls and boys programs. Minford is getting a soccer only micro-field through a grant by the Columbus Crew. Good things can happen when the athletic directors give all programs the same attention. Disadvantages are also shown in programs through their media releases, social media accounts, and various other aspects. These are HS kids and they all deserve the same opportunities.


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Re: Football/Soccer

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BurgFan43 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:50 am
SoccerDad wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:29 am
BurgFan43 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:00 am Networking at its finest.... Equal and level playing opportunities for football and soccer are coming to a school near you in 2025.
That's not what Title IX protects, but I'll quit trying to convince you otherwise—good luck in your lawsuit

Beyond that, soccer and football do not require the same facilities. They are different sports with different needs. Soccer requires a nice surface, but locker rooms and "nice stands" are not necessary for the kids. Similar to baseball, soccer players keep all their equipment with them—no need for storage, and no need to change clothes directly before/after games. Also, small programs without JV teams can survive without lights just fine. It's the playing surface that truly matters, and a lot of schools let their players down putting their training sites in cow pastures or having them use the same field for games and practices which is unsustainable.

Just because a school lets their soccer team play on the football field, doesn't mean it's a good situation for soccer. Alexander's grass football field is kept way too long, the width sucks, it's domed too much, and the yellow painted lines are often hard to make-out. The soccer teams don't bother to use the locker rooms of course.

Gallia is a nicer facility, but they tend to keep their grass too long and it seems to me that their dimensions are on the smaller side. Unioto is great. Marietta is really good. Warren has been good in recent years minus the end of last season. Logan High School's field is the only shared football/soccer field where the width is good.
Nobody has even mentioned any lawsuits. I agree that all teams require a nice level playing surface. A school just can't tell a school sponsored HS team that they have to play in a field with unsafe playing conditions when another team has great facilities for all. Like I have referenced, Rock Hill is doing a great job with equality with their athletic department. The boys and girls have great facilities in all sports with football and soccer sharing that facility. I know Waverly and Chillicothe also share their space with both programs for both girls and boys programs. Minford is getting a soccer only micro-field through a grant by the Columbus Crew. Good things can happen when the athletic directors give all programs the same attention. Disadvantages are also shown in programs through their media releases, social media accounts, and various other aspects. These are HS kids and they all deserve the same opportunities.
Take your kids to rock hill then. Shouldn’t the coaches of the soccer team etc be sharing team and player accomplishments on social media? I wouldn’t think that would be the AD job to post all that.


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Re: Football/Soccer

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Has BurgFan43 ever talked about Wheelersburg?


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