Football/Soccer

[BurgFan43]

well that doesnt really seem fair

Sounds like there is definitely a problem with the facilities there where one sport has everything and the other has nothing. If I had a boy/girl with a team playing on that field, I would be raising my concerns or filing a complaint with the Office of Civil Rights if those are truly the conditions of that particular field. It is just like when a facility can’t be used for unsafe reasons then the team can use other district owned facilities.

Burg,

We agree. You're right on with your assessment of what is going on. Title IX would definitely be an issue here. No way should soccer be playing on unsafe playing surfaces. They should have equal access to the stadium field, within reason.

We have an alternate field (regulation size and marked for soccer and LAX) behind our pressbox where we can have soccer or LAX practicing during their seasons. If Soccer is on the stadium field, we can have LAX on the alternate field. It's also a safety issue in the spring when track is practicing and balls are flying while runners are practicing and field events. LAX is exclusively on our alternate field aside from games, but we can schedule both soccer or lax at the same time, which is nice.

I am glad we agree with this topic. I am a bit confused because you said you are in Cincinnati but now using the pronoun “we”. I am definitely glad to hear you have alternative options in your district. I am not sure what LAX is, but assume it is an extracurricular. It is definitely glad to hear they can have access to the stadium field. I am not familiar with the soccer field but it sounded horrible by the other poster. The scheduling of track and other events is always tricky for most schools with a field inside the track. I assume when you say stadium field that is referring to the turf field for soccer. Am I correct when I am assuming this??

Does this alternative field have a scoreboard for soccer?? Wouldn’t it be easier and equal facilities if the football team used the practice field for practice and the soccer team used the turf field on game days???

This seems like a simple solution to ensure everyone is compliance and have equal opportunities with a district owned facility.

[BurgFan43]

Hillsboro has done a wonderful job putting in a lighted track and soccer turf field at the school and last year completed turf infield softball and baseball fields at the school. Concessions and lights will be added soon I believe. The grass football field remains in town only used for games. A new theater has been added during all of this renovation also. Little biased but great job by Hillsboro administration.

Yes, it sounds like they are on the right track for equality for all programs. It goes a long way when a district values all student athletes like they are suppose to.

[CuckooNest]

Does Wheelersburg still have their square dump of a track with no lights?

Talk about unequal facilities. Why didn’t they put a new track around the football field so the track athletes would be able to benefit from the lights?

[TigerBob]

Wow you are telling me the land of milk and honey has a field without lights? Call the Title IX investigators. I’m sure “Burg”Fan will be appalled!

[avalanche]

Sounds like there is definitely a problem with the facilities there where one sport has everything and the other has nothing. If I had a boy/girl with a team playing on that field, I would be raising my concerns or filing a complaint with the Office of Civil Rights if those are truly the conditions of that particular field. It is just like when a facility can’t be used for unsafe reasons then the team can use other district owned facilities.

Burg,

We agree. You're right on with your assessment of what is going on. Title IX would definitely be an issue here. No way should soccer be playing on unsafe playing surfaces. They should have equal access to the stadium field, within reason.

We have an alternate field (regulation size and marked for soccer and LAX) behind our pressbox where we can have soccer or LAX practicing during their seasons. If Soccer is on the stadium field, we can have LAX on the alternate field. It's also a safety issue in the spring when track is practicing and balls are flying while runners are practicing and field events. LAX is exclusively on our alternate field aside from games, but we can schedule both soccer or lax at the same time, which is nice.

I am glad we agree with this topic. I am a bit confused because you said you are in Cincinnati but now using the pronoun “we”. I am definitely glad to hear you have alternative options in your district. I am not sure what LAX is, but assume it is an extracurricular. It is definitely glad to hear they can have access to the stadium field. I am not familiar with the soccer field but it sounded horrible by the other poster. The scheduling of track and other events is always tricky for most schools with a field inside the track. I assume when you say stadium field that is referring to the turf field for soccer. Am I correct when I am assuming this??

Does this alternative field have a scoreboard for soccer?? Wouldn’t it be easier and equal facilities if the football team used the practice field for practice and the soccer team used the turf field on game days???

This seems like a simple solution to ensure everyone is compliance and have equal opportunities with a district owned facility.

We=my school

LAX is a common term used for lacrosse.

Yes, our auxiliary field is turfed as well and has a scoreboard. It allows us to run two separate events at the same time. Our stadium field, you never call it a "football field" just fyi, it should be multipurpose with markers for multiple sports (football, LAX, soccer). We always call it our stadium field.

I am not sure what you're referring to in regards to football. I didn't mention football. We have three levels of soccer, so in the fall freshmen soccer starts at 4, JV at 530, and varsity at 7. Our soccer program will use the aux field when there are games. Games always gives the stadium turf to that program. However, our aux field doesn't have field goal posts, so on occasion if say we ONLY have a freshmen game, they will play on the aux and all three levels of football get the field for practice.

My post we referring to LAX and soccer on the same day.

[BurgFan43]

Does Wheelersburg still have their square dump of a track with no lights?

Talk about unequal facilities. Why didn’t they put a new track around the football field so the track athletes would be able to benefit from the lights?

The track facilities are utilized by both the HS and MS track teams. It also is used by the football and soccer teams for practice. The ED is utilized by both football and soccer (boys and girls). The baseball and softball teams also use the turf when it is wet. Sounds like great use of the facilities by all student athletes. Try again!!

[BurgFan43]

Burg,

We agree. You're right on with your assessment of what is going on. Title IX would definitely be an issue here. No way should soccer be playing on unsafe playing surfaces. They should have equal access to the stadium field, within reason.

We have an alternate field (regulation size and marked for soccer and LAX) behind our pressbox where we can have soccer or LAX practicing during their seasons. If Soccer is on the stadium field, we can have LAX on the alternate field. It's also a safety issue in the spring when track is practicing and balls are flying while runners are practicing and field events. LAX is exclusively on our alternate field aside from games, but we can schedule both soccer or lax at the same time, which is nice.

I am glad we agree with this topic. I am a bit confused because you said you are in Cincinnati but now using the pronoun “we”. I am definitely glad to hear you have alternative options in your district. I am not sure what LAX is, but assume it is an extracurricular. It is definitely glad to hear they can have access to the stadium field. I am not familiar with the soccer field but it sounded horrible by the other poster. The scheduling of track and other events is always tricky for most schools with a field inside the track. I assume when you say stadium field that is referring to the turf field for soccer. Am I correct when I am assuming this??

Does this alternative field have a scoreboard for soccer?? Wouldn’t it be easier and equal facilities if the football team used the practice field for practice and the soccer team used the turf field on game days???

This seems like a simple solution to ensure everyone is compliance and have equal opportunities with a district owned facility.

We=my school

LAX is a common term used for lacrosse.

Yes, our auxiliary field is turfed as well and has a scoreboard. It allows us to run two separate events at the same time. Our stadium field, you never call it a "football field" just fyi, it should be multipurpose with markers for multiple sports (football, LAX, soccer). We always call it our stadium field.

I am not sure what you're referring to in regards to football. I didn't mention football. We have three levels of soccer, so in the fall freshmen soccer starts at 4, JV at 530, and varsity at 7. Our soccer program will use the aux field when there are games. Games always gives the stadium turf to that program. However, our aux field doesn't have field goal posts, so on occasion if say we ONLY have a freshmen game, they will play on the aux and all three levels of football get the field for practice.

My post we referring to LAX and soccer on the same day.

I like that your school calls it stadium turf. I think all schools should give the team with the scheduled game priority to the stadium turf and practices happen on other fields. Thats the way it should be.

[fbnut]

Does Wheelersburg still have their square dump of a track with no lights?

Talk about unequal facilities. Why didn’t they put a new track around the football field so the track athletes would be able to benefit from the lights?

I’m not sure burg hosts track meets anymore.
Not sure I’ve ever seen any track meet under lights

[BurgFan43]

Does Wheelersburg still have their square dump of a track with no lights?

Talk about unequal facilities. Why didn’t they put a new track around the football field so the track athletes would be able to benefit from the lights?

I’m not sure burg hosts track meets anymore.
Not sure I’ve ever seen any track meet under lights

Yes, there is usually one HS and one MS home track meet. You see also correct that they don’t have them under lights anywhere. It is just a few who are pulling at straws to try to divert the conversation of soccer and football facilities in the SEO region.

[CuckooNest]

Does Wheelersburg still have their square dump of a track with no lights?

Talk about unequal facilities. Why didn’t they put a new track around the football field so the track athletes would be able to benefit from the lights?

I’m not sure burg hosts track meets anymore.
Not sure I’ve ever seen any track meet under lights

Yes, there is usually one HS and one MS home track meet. You see also correct that they don’t have them under lights anywhere. It is just a few who are pulling at straws to try to divert the conversation of soccer and football facilities in the SEO region.

You guys are dead wrong. Track meets are routinely finished under the lights at every school in the SOC except the few that don’t have lights (South Webster is the only other one without lights off the top of my head). You never see a 4x400 not under the lights unless it’s a meet with 3-4 schools and their shuffling through events quickly. It’s not uncommon for lights to be in for the last 6-7 events at large invitationals.

[Gecko]

Since public schools receive federal funding, they must comply to equal opportunities to all boys and girls teams. Title IX compliance must be across the board with all sports teams in a public HS. All K-12 programs must have equal opportunities and benefits of every other team in the district. How is this possible when a team is forced to play in a field with no lights when other teams have nice facilities? Teams even have to have equal quality uniforms and apparel as any other program.


Here is a nice article to inform yourself about the rights of the students:

https://www.ed.gov/media/document/ocr-k ... -33876.pdf

A football team has a nice field, they should be allowing all teams to practice and play games on it.

Thats right . Let EVERYONE practice and play on it. That way it wont be nice anymore.

[SoccerDad]

Thats right . Let EVERYONE practice and play on it. That way it wont be nice anymore.

On grass fields, you have a solid point — on artificial turf? not so much. There are artificial turf facilities like Shawnee in Charleston that host dozens of soccer, lacrosse and football games every week for 9 months a year on the same field with no damage.

[BurgFan43]

Since public schools receive federal funding, they must comply to equal opportunities to all boys and girls teams. Title IX compliance must be across the board with all sports teams in a public HS. All K-12 programs must have equal opportunities and benefits of every other team in the district. How is this possible when a team is forced to play in a field with no lights when other teams have nice facilities? Teams even have to have equal quality uniforms and apparel as any other program.


Here is a nice article to inform yourself about the rights of the students:

https://www.ed.gov/media/document/ocr-k ... -33876.pdf

A football team has a nice field, they should be allowing all teams to practice and play games on it.

Thats right . Let EVERYONE practice and play on it. That way it wont be nice anymore.

Just all student athletes of the district. They have 7 on 7 that involves other students from schools. The little league football club uses it and it isn’t even school sponsored team. Why shouldn’t taxpayer’s children of the district be allowed to use district owned facilities?? That facility is paid for my taxpayers money to maintain and upgrade like the school itself. There is always ways to schedule it so everyone can use it effectively. The soccer teams at minimum should be allowed to use the facilities if their field is as bad as the person said it was. It sounds like it just comes down to say if it isn’t football or football related then it isn’t allowed on that field and that is wrong.

[bone1978]

Am I the only one noticing the Wheelersburg inferiority complex in these multiple threads? Or maybe I'm bursting the subtlety bubble here.

[Ohio1979]

Am I the only one noticing the Wheelersburg inferiority complex in these multiple threads? Or maybe I'm bursting the subtlety bubble here.

It’s embarrassing for them. Funny to the rest of us

[TigerBob]

Am I the only one noticing the Wheelersburg inferiority complex in these multiple threads? Or maybe I'm bursting the subtlety bubble here.

This person isn’t from Wheelersburg.

[BurgFan43]

The problem with schools that doesn’t have or unwilling to allow school sponsored teams play on available district owned facilities may be an issue across the state instead of just in the SEO region. I believe we may need to move to a larger stage so others can give us more direction and feedback. Thanks everyone for your input and guidance for helping make a change for all.

[noreply66]

I’m not sure burg hosts track meets anymore.
Not sure I’ve ever seen any track meet under lights

Yes, there is usually one HS and one MS home track meet. You see also correct that they don’t have them under lights anywhere. It is just a few who are pulling at straws to try to divert the conversation of soccer and football facilities in the SEO region.

You guys are dead wrong. Track meets are routinely finished under the lights at every school in the SOC except the few that don’t have lights (South Webster is the only other one without lights off the top of my head). You never see a 4x400 not under the lights unless it’s a meet with 3-4 schools and their shuffling through events quickly. It’s not uncommon for lights to be in for the last 6-7 events at large invitationals.

If every school shows up on time most meets could be finished before daylight saving time starts. I would go to meet at a certain location where they didn't have lights, and it seemed this one team always managed to be late and then after showing up they would be given warm up time. Most of the time the 4x400 and high jump would not get finishes. Now with the earlier daylight saving and if they get started at 4PM a meet should get finished, but that could depend on how the school runs their meet.

[BurgFan43]

Yes, there is usually one HS and one MS home track meet. You see also correct that they don’t have them under lights anywhere. It is just a few who are pulling at straws to try to divert the conversation of soccer and football facilities in the SEO region.

You guys are dead wrong. Track meets are routinely finished under the lights at every school in the SOC except the few that don’t have lights (South Webster is the only other one without lights off the top of my head). You never see a 4x400 not under the lights unless it’s a meet with 3-4 schools and their shuffling through events quickly. It’s not uncommon for lights to be in for the last 6-7 events at large invitationals.

If every school shows up on time most meets could be finished before daylight saving time starts. I would go to meet at a certain location where they didn't have lights, and it seemed this one team always managed to be late and then after showing up they would be given warm up time. Most of the time the 4x400 and high jump would not get finishes. Now with the earlier daylight saving and if they get started at 4PM a meet should get finished, but that could depend on how the school runs their meet.

Track Invitationals seem to go faster because there as many schools there. The open track meets definitely go a long time.

[noreply66]

You guys are dead wrong. Track meets are routinely finished under the lights at every school in the SOC except the few that don’t have lights (South Webster is the only other one without lights off the top of my head). You never see a 4x400 not under the lights unless it’s a meet with 3-4 schools and their shuffling through events quickly. It’s not uncommon for lights to be in for the last 6-7 events at large invitationals.

If every school shows up on time most meets could be finished before daylight saving time starts. I would go to meet at a certain location where they didn't have lights, and it seemed this one team always managed to be late and then after showing up they would be given warm up time. Most of the time the 4x400 and high jump would not get finishes. Now with the earlier daylight saving and if they get started at 4PM a meet should get finished, but that could depend on how the school runs their meet.

Track Invitationals seem to go faster because there as many schools there. The open track meets definitely go a long time.

I have been to a lot of invites that last from early morning to midafternoon and open meets the last a few hours. The length of time can depend on the heats that are run at a meet. Most meets now seem to go with the fastest eight from the group of heats and not keep running qualifying heats.