South Webster
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southernohiofan
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art_vandelay
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Re: South Webster
I'd say Webster is in the same boat as the rest of the schools waiting to make hiring decisons: they got to see what teaching jobs are open. Just because somebody resigns as coach doesn't mean they are certain to resign their teaching position if they don't have another job lined up.
I'd think the longer this goes on, it'd have to favor somebody already in the system (Rhea?). But this is all speculation as I haven't heard much of anything regarding the search the last couple of weeks. Administration is doing a good job keeping a lid on this one.*
I'd think the longer this goes on, it'd have to favor somebody already in the system (Rhea?). But this is all speculation as I haven't heard much of anything regarding the search the last couple of weeks. Administration is doing a good job keeping a lid on this one.*
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southernohiofan
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Re: South Webster
That is to simple, they had that option last time, a guy who lives in webster, been in the system, coached in all sports, been around the kids since biddy ball and jr high, had the team during the summer, gave up practically four years for the kids and the school when he coached all three sports and the powers that be turned there back on him. I'm glad to here he did apply this time again I don't no if I could be that loyal. He for sure bleeds red white and black.
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Champs2006
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Re: South Webster
According to most of the posts on this forum and from most of the information I have received from current players, parents, fans, members of the community, etc.; It seems that Brenton Cole is the desired applicant.
With that being said, why is the administration so hesitant to give him the position? The only reason that I have been given is because he is not a teacher at the school. But there have been many coaches for other sports, past and present, that were not employed as teachers at the school.
If it comes down to character, integrity, building a program, and inevitably, wins and losses, it should not matter whether the applicant is a teacher or not. IMHO, it did not seem that any of the aforementioned traits were exemplified during the last two years. I truly like Coach Reese, but when he applied for Cedarville jobs (high school head coach and assistant for Pat at CU), AFTER HIS FIRST SEASON, it became clear to me that looking outside the community, for a teacher, may not be the best solution.
I'm not saying that there will not be other qualified applicants, but if it were up to me (which it isn't!!!!!), I would hire a coach that has given everything he had when he wore the Jeep uniform, and after his playing days were over, did it all over again as a coach. Nothing against Coach Rhea (who I really like and respect), but Brenton knows the history; he knows a great, winning system; he has the respect of the players, parents and the community; he is not going to be looking for "greener pastures"; HE WILL BUILD A PROGRAM!
Wow that sounds like a campaign! "I am Champs2006 and I have approved this message!"
With that being said, why is the administration so hesitant to give him the position? The only reason that I have been given is because he is not a teacher at the school. But there have been many coaches for other sports, past and present, that were not employed as teachers at the school.
If it comes down to character, integrity, building a program, and inevitably, wins and losses, it should not matter whether the applicant is a teacher or not. IMHO, it did not seem that any of the aforementioned traits were exemplified during the last two years. I truly like Coach Reese, but when he applied for Cedarville jobs (high school head coach and assistant for Pat at CU), AFTER HIS FIRST SEASON, it became clear to me that looking outside the community, for a teacher, may not be the best solution.
I'm not saying that there will not be other qualified applicants, but if it were up to me (which it isn't!!!!!), I would hire a coach that has given everything he had when he wore the Jeep uniform, and after his playing days were over, did it all over again as a coach. Nothing against Coach Rhea (who I really like and respect), but Brenton knows the history; he knows a great, winning system; he has the respect of the players, parents and the community; he is not going to be looking for "greener pastures"; HE WILL BUILD A PROGRAM!
Wow that sounds like a campaign! "I am Champs2006 and I have approved this message!"
Re: South Webster
southernohiofan wrote:anyone know how many applicants they had
According to the school website, the posting doesn't expire until May 1st.
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Pressbreaker
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Re: South Webster
Champs2006, it does seem like Brenton has had a lot of support on this forum, but don't assume that he is the "desired applicant" by everyone. Nearly everyone I have talked to(obviously different players, parents, and community members than you have talked to) seems to think that Coach Cole is simply not ready to be a head basketball coach or that there are just better options available.
As for me, I would have to see who the other applicants are before deciding who I think should get the job. I do believe that it is best for the school, players, and community if the head basketball coach at South Webster is a teacher at the school. I know it doesn't necessarily have to be this way, but why not give the edge to the guy who has at least put forth the effort to earn a degree and become a licensed educator if he is going to be teaching our kids. In my opinion, if you are going to go outside of the school to hire a coach, they had better be a proven winner as a head coach at some level or the only person who applied for the job. In this situation, Coach Cole is neither.
It is difficult for me to be critical of Coach Cole because I honestly love the guy as a person and thought he filled the role of assistant coach better than ANYONE ever could have. I just have to believe that there are more qualified applicants. In fact, if the only qualifications to get the job are "giving everything you had when you wore the Jeep uniform and doing it all over again as a coach", then there are probably going to be about 4 or 5 applicants who deserve this coaching job. 3 or 4 have already been mentioned on this thread. Sometimes the field of candidates has to be narrowed down in more ways than just selecting those who work hard and have put in their time. To me, hiring a licensed educator who can benefit the school in more than one way is just a logical requirement for the job.
As for me, I would have to see who the other applicants are before deciding who I think should get the job. I do believe that it is best for the school, players, and community if the head basketball coach at South Webster is a teacher at the school. I know it doesn't necessarily have to be this way, but why not give the edge to the guy who has at least put forth the effort to earn a degree and become a licensed educator if he is going to be teaching our kids. In my opinion, if you are going to go outside of the school to hire a coach, they had better be a proven winner as a head coach at some level or the only person who applied for the job. In this situation, Coach Cole is neither.
It is difficult for me to be critical of Coach Cole because I honestly love the guy as a person and thought he filled the role of assistant coach better than ANYONE ever could have. I just have to believe that there are more qualified applicants. In fact, if the only qualifications to get the job are "giving everything you had when you wore the Jeep uniform and doing it all over again as a coach", then there are probably going to be about 4 or 5 applicants who deserve this coaching job. 3 or 4 have already been mentioned on this thread. Sometimes the field of candidates has to be narrowed down in more ways than just selecting those who work hard and have put in their time. To me, hiring a licensed educator who can benefit the school in more than one way is just a logical requirement for the job.
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Champs2006
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Re: South Webster
Great post, Pressbreaker.
As you can tell, I think very highly of Brenton and his abilities and also think he would be great for the job. As far as "being ready" is concerned, there's plenty of room for argument for any applicant who would be a first time coach. Marc was a "first time coach" but it worked for him!!
I'm also not advocating that Brenton would get the job just because he played there. I said that just to show how much he cares about the program, the history, and the kids. I can't imagine how hard it was for him to assist Coach Reese, after being passed up for the job, and watching the program being run into the ground; a program that he helped build (JMHO). I think his record, with all of the sports he has coached, shows that he is a proven candidate; not just as a winner, but as a person that I would like my kids to learn from.
I also was basically saying "let's not just give the coaching job to someone who is a teacher in the system, just because they are a teacher in the system." I have nothing but respect for teachers and what they do. I also respect the hard work and dedication it takes to become a teacher. I am not slighting that accomplishment in any way! My concern is giving the job to a teacher who would not put their whole heart into the job as Varsity basketball coach at SWHS. I don't question whether Coach Reese wanted to win; I do question whether his heart and soul were thrown into the position (again, JMHO).
I realize we will never know until a decision is made. I also will agree that finding a qualified teacher and a qualified coach (killing two birds with one stone!) is the best option. And, without knowing all of the applicants, it is difficult for me to say who would be best. But just referring to the names mentioned in this forum, I would have to give the nod to Coach Cole.
As you can tell, I think very highly of Brenton and his abilities and also think he would be great for the job. As far as "being ready" is concerned, there's plenty of room for argument for any applicant who would be a first time coach. Marc was a "first time coach" but it worked for him!!
I'm also not advocating that Brenton would get the job just because he played there. I said that just to show how much he cares about the program, the history, and the kids. I can't imagine how hard it was for him to assist Coach Reese, after being passed up for the job, and watching the program being run into the ground; a program that he helped build (JMHO). I think his record, with all of the sports he has coached, shows that he is a proven candidate; not just as a winner, but as a person that I would like my kids to learn from.
I also was basically saying "let's not just give the coaching job to someone who is a teacher in the system, just because they are a teacher in the system." I have nothing but respect for teachers and what they do. I also respect the hard work and dedication it takes to become a teacher. I am not slighting that accomplishment in any way! My concern is giving the job to a teacher who would not put their whole heart into the job as Varsity basketball coach at SWHS. I don't question whether Coach Reese wanted to win; I do question whether his heart and soul were thrown into the position (again, JMHO).
I realize we will never know until a decision is made. I also will agree that finding a qualified teacher and a qualified coach (killing two birds with one stone!) is the best option. And, without knowing all of the applicants, it is difficult for me to say who would be best. But just referring to the names mentioned in this forum, I would have to give the nod to Coach Cole.
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Sports_Tracker
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Re: South Webster
sportfanatic,
talk about being out of the loop, you seem to have disappeared since the south webster team started losing.
talk about being out of the loop, you seem to have disappeared since the south webster team started losing.
Re: South Webster
sparky wrote:sportfanatic,
talk about being out of the loop, you seem to have disappeared since the south webster team started losing.
Sportsfanatic has been is college. Working on getting a degree and starting his life. Is that O.K. with you?
Last edited by jeep80 on Mon May 11, 2009 6:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: South Webster
If sportfanatic is who I think it is, he/she will always be a diehard Webster fan.