D3 Southeast Sectional DRAW

[expert witness]

Foxworthy,

The only knowledge I have about the TVC Hocking is that it is terrible this season. I do agree that anyone can win a game in this sectional because of how bad it is but just because FH gets 1 quality win doesnt all of a sudden make them a dangerous team to look out for. Congrats on your big win. Actually, on the contrary, people will be falling over themselves to play FH. The top seeds would 1000% rather play FH than a team like Zane Trace(who really could pull off a big upset).

[expert witness]

the real winners here are the #4 seed from waverly and the #3 seed from jackson. Generally a 4 seed has no shot against a #1 at the convo but in this case the #4 from waverly(huntington/eastern brown) will be a better team than the #1 from athens (meigs/fairland). they have to be extremely excited. The #2 seed from Athens has no chance because they get Oak Hill in the districts.

[jchitwood]

the real winners here are the #4 seed from waverly and the #3 seed from jackson. Generally a 4 seed has no shot against a #1 at the convo but in this case the #4 from waverly(huntington/eastern brown) will be a better team than the #1 from athens (meigs/fairland). they have to be extremely excited. The #2 seed from Athens has no chance because they get Oak Hill in the districts.

Similar to last year's situation, when a #3 seeded Eastern Brown team ended up with a better draw than a #1 seeded Peebles.

[gymrat88]

Foxworthy,

The only knowledge I have about the TVC Hocking is that it is terrible this season. I do agree that anyone can win a game in this sectional because of how bad it is but just because FH gets 1 quality win doesnt all of a sudden make them a dangerous team to look out for. Congrats on your big win. Actually, on the contrary, people will be falling over themselves to play FH. The top seeds would 1000% rather play FH than a team like Zane Trace(who really could pull off a big upset).

If you consider the TVC Hocking terrible, then I don't know what you could consider the TVC Ohio. Eastern is better than virtually any team in the Ohio, and beat Meigs by 30. I would put Wahama up against any Ohio team and Trimble and Waterford play very well at times. If you take into consideration enrollment, the Hocking division teams are much better for their size than the Ohio division teams.

[expert witness]

gymrat, i agree, although the TVC hocking is really down, the TVC ohio is probably the worst it has ever been. incredibly down year for both divisions. i completely disagree with you that eastern is better than anyone in the Ohio. eastern started hot but they really are very average and would struggle with Vinton or Athens and possibly Alex. by the way, the reason i made the statement about the hocking is because we were talking about FH. I am aware the Ohio is really bad also.

[gymrat88]

I will agree that Eastern and Vinton County would be a good game and that Vinton would have good shot at winning. I would love to see the TVC play a championship game in the future.

[Rvbballdude]

River Valley has Fairland @home tonite and Meigs @ home on Sat night. Both games were very competitive the first time around,this has the potential to mix things up a bit at the top of the heap in Div 3 Athens Sectional.

[Rvbballdude]

the real winners here are the #4 seed from waverly and the #3 seed from jackson. Generally a 4 seed has no shot against a #1 at the convo but in this case the #4 from waverly(huntington/eastern brown) will be a better team than the #1 from athens (meigs/fairland). they have to be extremely excited. The #2 seed from Athens has no chance because they get Oak Hill in the districts.

Fairland already beat Oak Hill if i am not mistaken by 10

[Rvbballdude]

i agree that meigs needs to win a few games or they could fall down the seeding very quickly but trust me wellston WILL NOT get seeded above Alex. You think you know how the seeding plays out but you really have no idea.

Let me spell it out for you. when it comes time to vote for the three seed, Alex, NY, BELPRE, MEIGS and River Valley will all vote the same (trust me on this). That gives Alex 5 of the 6 votes needed for the #3. Southeastern will most likely vote themselves at the three (which they should because their conference is better) and Zane Trace will follow what they do. This leaves it at Alex 5 votes and southeastern 2 votes. Even if southeastern doesnt belive they are the #3 they will vote for themselves to gain credibility for the 4 seed as it generally goes to the 2nd vote getter for the 3. this leaves 4 votes and EVEN IF wellston gets them all (which they wont) it still wont matter.

If the draw was today, this is EXACTLY how things would play out. Anything can happen in two weeks and things may change but as of now this is how it will play out. TRUST ME.

only thing you are over looking "lots of BBall to be played between now nd the 13th"

[expert witness]

rvdude, good point, i forgot about fairland winning that game. they are the one team with the athletes to compete in the athens sectional.

i realize there is lots of bball to be played thats why i said "if the draw was today." it could be very different in two weeks.

[prepster]

Athens Sectional

Fairland 10-5
Wellston 8-6
Meigs. 7-7
Southeastern 7-8
Alex. 6-9
River Valley 6-9
Nelsonville 5-10
Belpre 4-10
Fed Hock. 4-11
Zane Trace 3-12
Crooksville 3-12
As of Feb 1

[Rvbballdude]

I think Fairland is 10-5 they were 9-5 on the 30th i may be wrong?

They have a pair with Chesapeake maybe this week. or next

[expert witness]

Foxworthy, what happened to your super-sleeper last night?

[Foxworthy]

Expert Witness I want to congratulate your ability to know every team in SE Ohio and the innate ability to be such an amazing prognosticator on basketball. You must be really busy on Tues, Fri, and Sat nights, hopping from one gym to another.

Obviously you don't understand the definition of a sleeper but of course everyone's opinion on that is most likely different. To me, a sleeper is a team that has the capability to win several of the games they have lost. They are teams that have trouble concentrating on the moment game in and game out but have potential so when they know it's win or out........they bring their total game.

FH has alot of weaknesses and I believe their defense is their biggest weakness. You've got to work on both ends of the court and not all their players have decided that is important. They are also not the best shooters around so factor those two together and it sometimes spells disaster.

But......what they do have is alot of grit and determination. They will loose alot of games ahead of them. A 5-6 win season is all I can see them having. They do get up for big games though and have hung with several of the best teams in the TVC Hocking night in and night out and I believe could take on most teams in the TVC Ohio any day of the week. Saylor does his most damage when FH plays a team with a big man. When playing a guard oriented team FH is suspect because of weak defense on the parimeter and at the baseline,, forward and guard work. They can play good defense when they choose which is not an option in any game.

You obviously don't like the TVC.......well hat's off to you. Perhaps that's because most of the TVC schools recognize their is life after high school sports.

Believe what you want. You are not the only voice in SE Ohio. I've probably watched more basketball than your age but you have your opinion and I have mine. Being able to claim those is what makes this country so great and a pleasure to banter with you too!

[expert witness]

Foxworthy, pleasure to banter with you also.

FH: (1) lacks concentration during games
(2) is a poor defensive team
(3) doesnt shoot very well

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT SLEEPER IDEA.

[expert witness]

prepster, still think wellston is a three seed after losing to basketball power ironton st. joe??

Id say the 4 just went out the window as well and they will be 5th, just as i predicted.

[prepster]

No way! The two or three is still right there for the taking. Nobody else has 8 wins or beat vinton county and won at ny. St Joe has 9 wins and made it to the districts last season and has very nice senior class who have won a bunch of games. No I dont think anything has changed. But, thanks for asking. Why are you so negative about everything? Give Wellston some credit . They have had a very good season thus far. They have defeated Vinton who has 10 wins, eastern who has 8 wins, won at Ny and Rock Hill, and defeated Marion Catholic who is rated in the Columbus Dispatchs top 5 poll in Div 4, so no apologies here. They have a pretty solid resume, as good as anybody in this weak sectional and the second most wins.

[Ty Webb]

Athens Sectional

Fairland 10-5
Wellston 8-6
Meigs. 7-7
Southeastern 7-8
Alex. 6-9
River Valley 6-9
Nelsonville 5-10
Belpre 4-10
Fed Hock. 4-11
Zane Trace 3-12
Crooksville 3-12
As of Feb 1

Just curious, whats Wellston's record versus common TVC Ohio & DIII opponents in this sectional Alex, Meigs, and NY so far this season?

[expert witness]

Ty, wellston got killed by Alex( almost 30 both times) and meigs beat them AT WELLSTON fairly easily. wellston has a shot at the #4 seed but southeastern is a better team.

[RangerX7]

Just clearing things up. Belpre is 4-9 not 10