Marietta VS Fort Frye Who Do You Think Would Win

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This ain't math you can't go on one game.Plus FF only lost by 9 the 1st time vsWarren.Fort Frye matches up well with Marietta.Only thing you can really base this on is the fact that they already played and FF won 5 qts and tied 1.If Marietta was so much better they would have won a qt.It would be a good game tho.What has Seacrest did as a coach?Final 4?League title? FF would have won this matchup 8 out of the last 10years.Dan averages 16 wins a year come on he is a way better coach.I watched Marietta get outcoached bad last year.Its pretty bad when his former players even think he is a bad coach.How many former players would call dan a bad coach?He wins like 70 percent of his games.2 losing seasons out of 21 come on ain't close as you say numbers don't lie.


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EasternDspy wrote:This ain't math you can't go on one game.Plus FF only lost by 9 the 1st time vsWarren.Fort Frye matches up well with Marietta.Only thing you can really base this on is the fact that they already played and FF won 5 qts and tied 1.If Marietta was so much better they would have won a qt.It would be a good game tho.What has Seacrest did as a coach?Final 4?League title? FF would have won this matchup 8 out of the last 10years.Dan averages 16 wins a year come on he is a way better coach.I watched Marietta get outcoached bad last year.Its pretty bad when his former players even think he is a bad coach.How many former players would call dan a bad coach?He wins like 70 percent of his games.2 losing seasons out of 21 come on ain't close as you say numbers don't lie.
How many years has Dan coached boys? How long before he got to Final 4, how many of those teams could have advanced against the caliber of teams Marietta has to face, remember many of Marietta's best teams in the past had to compete in Divison 1, with many boys going on to very successful careers in college. If Marietta could have played in your division (since were are comparing FF and Marietta head to head) I think Coach Warner and others (people during Dan's tenure) may have advanced as well. Also it is lame to compare who wins what scrimmage qtrs but if you need to count those also go ahead.


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Marietta was a D1 school so they should have been playing D1 teams they have like 4 times as many boys.Dan always does way more with less.You are crazy if you think JD is on Dans level.JD is not even .500.This has to be a Joke.Over the last 12 years since I have been following closely FF has had the better team what 10 years.FF even has a better record then Marietta vs WARREN.FF is D3 and has a better program.


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We would take on pathetic Marietta ANYDAY baby. Our JV team would win by atleast 8 points. Etta34, I think you guys should play our freshman team if you want a close match.


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Eastern DSPY 1, just wanted to say sorry for the way you were treated at the Warren Game. As a wall flower, I didn't say anything, but you have my sincerest apologies for the behavior of one of the fans. That was uncalled for and unacceptable behavior. Should the shoe have been on the other foot, you would have heard about how aweful the ff fans were. You sir, held your composure, and for that you are commended.

I didn't realize FF had a freshman team, as a matter of fact, I was almost certain it was just JV and Varsity. I will say the score the second time around was slightly different than the first time we met. I will say the LaGrane boy showed a great improvement, and a player or two were no longer in uniform. I know you respect your coach, and rightly so, but things change. I don't have anything else to go on, but my instinct says this is the reason that the games are played. Good discussion is fine. Disrespect is not.


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Yea I was treated like a criminal for no reason.The A.D was really cool about it after game.Another reason why I have no respect for Maddox.Whatever its over no need to hold grudges.


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I can only speak for myself, but I can't believe Coach Maddox had anything to do with the Rude and Classless Act I witnessed. I know that as a Coach, the "posts" from fans, parents, and those who feel they can help out by commenting is not appreciated in anyway shape or form.

You certainly have reason to dislike coming to Warren High School, I am ashamed, once again, but as adults, I feel it is not "my place" to corral or repremand another adult. I hope that you will feel welcome to attend any sporting event at WHS, and realize that the majority of the "adults" would not appreciate the rude treatment of anyone.

If a problem persists, please feel free to contact the fellows standing by each door way dressed in black.
Those fellows are there to promote a "peaceful" evening.


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EasternDspy wrote:Marietta was a D1 school so they should have been playing D1 teams they have like 4 times as many boys.Dan always does way more with less.You are crazy if you think JD is on Dans level.JD is not even .500.This has to be a Joke.Over the last 12 years since I have been following closely FF has had the better team what 10 years.FF even has a better record then Marietta vs WARREN.FF is D3 and has a better program.
Well in the last 10 years I believe there were some teams with say Ben Howlett (sp), Lough, Farr that would have done more than given your PVC school a game. As I look across the state I see these good small schools step out and play the big boys year after year, yet who has Dan played. PVC and Washington County teams. Heck Zanesville is right up 60 and would be a good game to get ready for the tourney, give'em a call.


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CadetsAllDay wrote:We would take on pathetic Marietta ANYDAY baby. Our JV team would win by atleast 8 points. Etta34, I think you guys should play our freshman team if you want a close match.

Good point, that would be a terrific matchup..


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It is hard for Fort Frye to find teams to play them.They beat Bloom Carroll in Beverly by 25 the year they made the elite 8 in 07.Played Federal Hocking the year they were 18-2 by 20.Played Rosecrans the last 2 season and split.They are now 1 in the state.Beat 20-2 Garaway in the districts in 07.Next year the same team went to the state Championship.Beat 23-0 1st in the State Bellaire in 06 the year after they lost in the title game.


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EasternDspy wrote:It is hard for Fort Frye to find teams to play them.They beat Bloom Carroll in Beverly by 25 the year they made the elite 8 in 07.Played Federal Hocking the year they were 18-2 by 20.Played Rosecrans the last 2 season and split.They are now 1 in the state.Beat 20-2 Garaway in the districts in 07.Next year the same team went to the state Championship.Beat 23-0 1st in the State Bellaire in 06 the year after they lost in the title game.
Fed Hock is not a bigger school and no real current tradition. Rosecrans has a nice program but you are not playing them are you? Garaway seems to be a tournment foe every year. Bloom Carroll is the same size and you played them at home. Maybe venture out and play some teams that will help you assess where you really are. Like I said close by has been Cambridge, Zanesville, Tri-Valley, Logan, Maysville, Chilli etc. The problem is you will have to probably go to their place. But that shouldn't be a problem alot of teams are looking for games each year. If you need help let me know I can get you a good game outside of Beverly.


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heres how the game would play out...

it would be tied up going into the first quarter, then marietta would never look back. zach eddy would mostlikely get flustered, and kriech would be lights out as usual. marietta by 25


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Not too many teams in southeast ohio match up with marietta's size. Nathan Williams is 6'4 and is a very athletic kid, I'd take him over anyone at River or Monroe. And as for Big Jon, everyone knows he's not the most athletic kid in the world but he's improved a lot and alters the game in many more ways than just scoring points. I have no doubt that Legraen is a good player and might be better offensively than Jon but there's no way in hell that he blocks/alters close to as many shots as Jon. Give me Marietta by double digits no matter where this one is played.


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IMO - Over the course of the last 20 years, Fort Frye has been better more often. They only played each other at the low point in Coach Liedtke's tenure. I haven't seen the Cadets this year, but they don't sound like the kind of team that can "play up" a division successfully.


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Williams and Sewell did not seem to do much when these to scrimmaged.It would be a very good game.I think they would probably split.I highly doubt they would get beat by 20.Warren did not even beat them by 20.Marietta will get handled by Warren in the rematch.


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EasternDspy wrote:Williams and Sewell did not seem to do much when these to scrimmaged.It would be a very good game.I think they would probably split.I highly doubt they would get beat by 20.Warren did not even beat them by 20.Marietta will get handled by Warren in the rematch.
You keep bringing up a pre-season scrimmage but I'm pretty sure those do not count towards the record. Marietta will not get handled by Warren. The only reason the Tigers lost was poor free throw shooting and I'm pretty sure Secrest will have them working on that in practice.


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Dont have much to hang your hat on when all you can do is talk about a scrimmage. I agree that FF has a better program than Marietta but the topic of discussion is Marietta vs FF and I would assume you mean this year. I would give the edge to FF if the game was played early in the season since FF always seems to come out of the gate well. I would also think that FF would do better if it was played on their home court as FF shoots better at home vs on the road, which most teams do but FF seems to struggle more with their shooting percentages on the road than what most teams do. And yes, Liedtke has taken them to a final four and should be congratulated for that, not an easy thing to do but the Athens region was woefully down that year as Cheasapeake stumbled in the sectional and Belpre in the districts. You never bring up the score from FF's appearance in the state semis that year - a 93-55 loss. Yes Bedford did win the title that year but I think FF learned a leason, live by the 3 - die by the 3. What worked well in the PVC didn't do so well on the state level. Dan does a good job at FF and I dont knock him. He has a good program because he has good kids that have talent, not because he walks on water. 3 schools from Washington County have been to the final four during the course of each schools history that I am aware of, Marietta 8 times, Belpre 3 times and FF 2 times. Only Marietta and Belpre have won a game at that level and both finished as state runners up once. Congrats to all 3 schools on their accomplishments thru the years. This year I feel the win would go to Marietta if they had played FF. I would love to see Marietta College get the Washington county schools together for a holiday tourney at their fieldhouse and bring back the days of the old county tourney which meant more than the state tourney back in the day.


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I still don't understand why you think the first scrimmage of the season matters. this is why you get yourself harrassed, because you make stupid points, and when they get blown up by EVERYONE on the forum, you keep saying them. williams and sewell have improved a ton since the first EXHIBITION game. williams is one of the top players in the area now, he has, i believe, at least 5 double doubles, and sewell has been playing great defense, he is huge presence in the paint. who cares if he doesnt score a ton, they have nate, riley, grosel, and kriechbaum to do that for them. with sewell down low, fort frye will have basically no inside game, unless you were in there charlie, but then there would be no game for anybody inside the 3 point line due to no vacancy.


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I cannot say one way or the other. The boys on both teams play their hearts out, and the two games I saw, when they played Warren, they seemed to play good defense and good offense.


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Like I have said before this is a dumb topic.Marietta needs to worry about the teams they actually play I.E Chillicothe,Portsmouth,Ironton,and Warren.Schools that are in the SCOL.Fort Frye will continue to win the PVC and have an actual shot at a tourney run.When Marietta wins a district title come on here and brag.I think the reason Marietta is struggling is because Mariettea is more worried about FF a team they don't even play.


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