Southeast District D4 Rankings 2-9-11

[squiggy]

SOC is scared of the SHL they are going to put the SHL against each other if they can. SOC has always sucked and always will.

How many teams have the SHL sent to the final 4 recently? How many state champs?
2006 South Webster - DIV State Champs
2006 Wheelersburg - DIII Final 4
2007 Wheelersburg - DIII Final 4
2009 Oak Hill - DIV State Champs

how many of those schools have kids transfer from other schools to make that possible,i know for sure that South Webster did!pretty sure that norm did a little recruiting as well.

[Ironman92]

Uh....SW for the past 7 years has always been legit.....he is speaking of the small schools SOC....how have they fared in the tourney lately or this past decade? East and Clay make the district finals once each? Western made the Elite 8.

[svbt1112]

Jimmy: I believe we understand the level of play. Green and Clay are not as bad as some of you think. I didn't think they were that good until I watched them play Webster. They are good enough to merit higher seeds (especially with the record differential) and capable of beating Fairfield.

I don't believe that Manchester would beat Green and Clay 10 times out of 10----especially at Green and Clay. Manchester is very good at home, but has lost 3 times away from home and one of those was at Whiteoak. Whiteoak has lost recently to North Adams and you could definitely say if Whiteoak can beat Manchester then Green and Clay can.

I am one of those people saying "Manchester is clearly the 2 seed"----heck you could make an argument they are the 1 seed! That is not enough to say that Fairfield should be seeded higher. Manchester is the 2 seed because they are 15-3---- and Fairfield can be even with them in your eyes, but they are still 8-9. And, if Whiteoak is as good as those 2 and are 7-11? Seriously?

I do agree with your rankings and your tournament seedings except I would put Whiteoak at 6 and Notre Dame at 7.

[svbt1112]

Squiggy: South Webster had 1 transfer student in 2006---and he helped us get there---no doubt about it! 2004 we made the final 4 as well with 0 transfer students and 2005 we made the elite 8 and were beaten by Africentric (all transfer students). After getting beaten by Africentric and being awarded the regional championship by default (africentric was disqualified later for transfer violations) in 2005, we didn't mind having 1 transfer student of our own.

Does No School in the SHL ever have a transfer student?

[TribeManiac10]

Manchester beat Ironton tonight 61-57.

[svbt1112]

Very good win for Manchester! I wouldn't have thought they could beat a full-strength Ironton team.

South Webster beat Waverly at Waverly 45-34. Waverly was without Harrison Martin who is a very good post player.

[TribeManiac10]

Does No School in the SHL ever have a transfer student?

Not often...we usually have more kids transfer away. Look at the Setty/Carrol situation with Peebles. I think with the addition of a 6'8" (D1-commit) forward and another excellent 6' role player Peebles might be the team to beat in the Southeast district regardless of division.

[NormanDale]

Manchester beat Ironton 61-57 without Blevins playing good...Where will the SOC put them in the bracket??Can they justify putting them as a 3-6 seed and match them up against another SHL team...I don't think any SOC team in this district wants any part of them. I don't think they would want to play Fairfield or Whiteoak for that matter...Its the same every year.

[svbt1112]

I just read that Ironton played without 2 starters and Carter didn't play in the 2nd half. That makes a huge difference.

There is no doubt that Manchester is a 1 seed or a 2 seed.

[rockyraccoon]

I got an idea, why don't all the SOC teams just forfiet any games with the SHL.

[rockyraccoon]

I just read that Ironton played without 2 starters and Carter didn't play in the 2nd half. That makes a huge difference.

There is no doubt that Manchester is a 1 seed or a 2 seed.

Agreed that manchester is a 1 or 2 seed. The win is in the books no matter who Ironton had. Just like SW win over Portsmouth was before they had Andrew Bendolph.

[art_vandelay]

#1 seed at Valley is a tossup now with Webster and Manchester both winning tonight. Really couldn't argue either way as it could go either way.

My prediction after tonight's games and the past voting style of this Sectional is:

1) Webster
2) Manchester
3) Green
4) Clay
5) Fairfield
6) Notre Dame
7) Whiteoak
8) New Boston
9) East
10) Western.

SOC I will assure that they are not shutout at Districts, so I think Manchester ultimately gets the shaft having to face Whiteoak instead of Notre Dame in Sectional. Of course they could just as easily flip Webster and Manchester and then Webster gets the tough draw.*

[svbt1112]

Rocky: I agree! We beat Waverly tonight without Martin and we are counting it!

Manchester has great wins vs Peebles and Ironton

South Webster has great wins vs Portsmouth and Wheelersburg.

The only difference that I see (and yes I am a totally biased South Webster fan) is their losses.

Manchester lost to Peebles (very legitimate) by 24 and to Reedsville Eastern (Legitimate but D4) by 2 and to Whiteoak by 14 (D4 and 7-11)

South Webster lost to Oak Hill, Wheelersburg by 2 and Waverly by 3. They have since beaten Burg and Waverly by 10 and 11 respectively.

1. South Webster
2. Manchester
3. Green
4. Clay
5. Fairfield
6. Whiteoak
7. Notre Dame
8. New Boston
9. East
10. Western

[jimmy chipwood]

So, let me get this right? Is there anybody out there who believes Notre Dame is the 6th best team in this sectional? There will be 6-7 coaches tomorrow who believe this. Anybody want to take bets on it?

Rocky,

You cant forfeit games that dont exist? lol

[rockyraccoon]

Rocky: I agree! We beat Waverly tonight without Martin and we are counting it!

Manchester has great wins vs Peebles and Ironton

South Webster has great wins vs Portsmouth and Wheelersburg.

The only difference that I see (and yes I am a totally biased South Webster fan) is their losses.

Manchester lost to Peebles (very legitimate) by 24 and to Reedsville Eastern (Legitimate but D4) by 2 and to Whiteoak by 14 (D4 and 7-11)

South Webster lost to Oak Hill, Wheelersburg by 2 and Waverly by 3. They have since beaten Burg and Waverly by 10 and 11 respectively.

1. South Webster
2. Manchester
3. Green
4. Clay
5. Fairfield
6. Whiteoak
7. Notre Dame
8. New Boston
9. East
10. Western

I like this set up in seeding. Looks right on the Money. 4 and 5 don't matter because they play each other, ND is not a 6 over Whiteoak, and that is a crucial spot because Whiteoak has a chance against Green, but coming out of the 7 spot and having to play the 1 or 2 is going to make it tough to advance. I am sure Green will lobby for ND to be the 6 so they will have an easier first game.

[a_c_m]

Why don't they just seed Manchester 1, Fairfield 2 and Whiteoak 3? Even that would not satisfy the SHL! You complain about SHL schools playing against each other. SOC teams face each other in the first round of the tournament all the time!

Then, you would say no Whiteoak deserves the 2 seed over Fairfield. Just play the games and remember that everyone is 0-0 starting the tournament. Throw out the records!

Go SOC!!!!!

[The Ghost of Swanker]

may the best team win... aka South Webster

[jimmy chipwood]

Why don't they just seed Manchester 1, Fairfield 2 and Whiteoak 3? Even that would not satisfy the SHL! You complain about SHL schools playing against each other. SOC teams face each other in the first round of the tournament all the time!

Then, you would say no Whiteoak deserves the 2 seed over Fairfield. Just play the games and remember that everyone is 0-0 starting the tournament. Throw out the records!

Go SOC!!!!!

I simply asked a very simple question - Is Notre Dame the 6th best team in this sectional? I dont have a problem with Green and Clay being 3/4 because that is not a stretch from reality. This will be my last comment about the drawing until it comes out tomorrow with Notre Dame as the #6 seed. lol

[Ironman92]

1. SW
2. Manchester
3. Green
4. Clay
5. Fairfield
6. Whiteoak
7. Notre Dame
8. New Boston
9. East
10. Western

The least fishy way for things to happen as they do every year is for ND to be #6 and WO #7.

[kickin it]

I have to agree with SW at the one seed and Manchester at the two, hard to get over the two DIV losses already this year for the greyhounds. That 5 6 and 7 are just wide open will be ineresting to see how it plays out.