SOC2 2019-20

[bbjunky81]

I know Valley is young but I thought this would be the year they turn the corner some.... It’s still early in the season, but their first 2 games doesn’t seem to be showing much positive.

[SwankerPine]

looking rough for Valley early 0-2

They’ll pull some upsets as they usually do.

How do y’all think Burg will handle opening the season 2 weeks behind everyone?

[Crab's Brother]

I know Valley is young but I thought this would be the year they turn the corner some.... It’s still early in the season, but their first 2 games doesn’t seem to be showing much positive.

Valley is going to be playing 3 freshmen huge minutes. Not sure why this year would be the year they "turned the corner some".

[Proud_Pirate63]

Burg is used to getting in the gym late due to football playoffs. I think they will be good. Decent to good length, quick, athletic, good perimeter shooting. I think they will be their most dangerous if allowed to get out in run. Plenty of capable players on the bench for fresh legs. I’m sure a lot of people are wondering how they will be post-Holden.

[rxburgfan]

looking rough for Valley early 0-2

They’ll pull some upsets as they usually do.

How do y’all think Burg will handle opening the season 2 weeks behind everyone?

They will roll into midseason form end of January and probably make a good tourney run. The delay sets them back but tourney time they are ready to play.

[pfloyd]

I know Valley is young but I thought this would be the year they turn the corner some.... It’s still early in the season, but their first 2 games doesn’t seem to be showing much positive.

Valley is going to be playing 3 freshmen huge minutes. Not sure why this year would be the year they "turned the corner some".

Crab's Brother, am I correct in saying that Valley lost 6-6 Chase Clark to transfer? (went to New Boston) ... THAT in itself is a big hit losing a 6-6, active body in the paint ! ...

[The Ghost of Swanker]

NB had a 6’6 or 6’7 boy traveling with them at previews but wasn’t dressed...

[Ironman92]

NB had a 6’6 or 6’7 boy traveling with them at previews but wasn’t dressed...

Naked? Ew

[The Ghost of Swanker]

No dignity over there in the the village I tell ya

[The Ghost of Swanker]

Got logged back into my old account btw.
Happy ten year anniversary to me 12/2/09

[VetteMan]

NB had a 6’6 or 6’7 boy traveling with them at previews but wasn’t dressed...

Naked? Ew

If I didn't know better, I'd think that you've been hanging around mlittle. Lol

[Crab's Brother]

I know Valley is young but I thought this would be the year they turn the corner some.... It’s still early in the season, but their first 2 games doesn’t seem to be showing much positive.

Valley is going to be playing 3 freshmen huge minutes. Not sure why this year would be the year they "turned the corner some".

Crab's Brother, am I correct in saying that Valley lost 6-6 Chase Clark to transfer? (went to New Boston) ... THAT in itself is a big hit losing a 6-6, active body in the paint ! ...

That is correct.

[bbjunky81]

I know Valley is young but I thought this would be the year they turn the corner some.... It’s still early in the season, but their first 2 games doesn’t seem to be showing much positive.

Valley is going to be playing 3 freshmen huge minutes. Not sure why this year would be the year they "turned the corner some".

Very simple.

A.) The league is down compared to years past
B.) Valley did graduate some important seniors but they have some talent in the younger grades and 2 guys who started each game last year
C.) Valley typically doesn't stay down long, in the past they always rebuilt within a few years.
D.) I think Horton does a good job with his kids as evidenced in his 1st season last year.

Didn't think they'd be world beaters by any stretch of the imagination, just improved that's all.

[bbjunky81]

I saw Clark had 4 points in the opening game for New Boston so not sure why he was out for Previews. Where did Deon Jones come from? Don't remember that name from last year.

[Crab's Brother]

I know Valley is young but I thought this would be the year they turn the corner some.... It’s still early in the season, but their first 2 games doesn’t seem to be showing much positive.

Valley is going to be playing 3 freshmen huge minutes. Not sure why this year would be the year they "turned the corner some".

Very simple.

A.) The league is down compared to years past
B.) Valley did graduate some important seniors but they have some talent in the younger grades and 2 guys who started each game last year
C.) Valley typically doesn't stay down long, in the past they always rebuilt within a few years.
D.) I think Horton does a good job with his kids as evidenced in his 1st season last year.

Didn't think they'd be world beaters by any stretch of the imagination, just improved that's all.

Valley's Jr class is now basically down to a few players. The best of the bunch left for New Boston. The best pure athlete in the class hasn't played since his freshman year. The senior class has two kids that have played a lot of minutes but another would be 3 year varsity player chose not to play.

When Valley has rebuilt "within a few years" it is because there was still talent playing. At this point, most of that talent has moved on or no longer playing basketball for whatever reason.

The Indians are going to struggle this season, but the talent is coming.

[pfloyd]

Coach Horton DOES an excellent job! I was very impressed with him courtside last season ... all good coaches need talent to win - will the players currently playing for the Indians learn the game, become better players? absolutely - Coach Horton will see to that ... but to win you need the talent to be varsity level talent - tough place to be in when the talent decides not to play ( ie. McClain has 2 starters from last years team decide not to play this season) ... I wish Coach Horton the best this season !

[bbjunky81]

Valley is going to be playing 3 freshmen huge minutes. Not sure why this year would be the year they "turned the corner some".

Very simple.

A.) The league is down compared to years past
B.) Valley did graduate some important seniors but they have some talent in the younger grades and 2 guys who started each game last year
C.) Valley typically doesn't stay down long, in the past they always rebuilt within a few years.
D.) I think Horton does a good job with his kids as evidenced in his 1st season last year.

Didn't think they'd be world beaters by any stretch of the imagination, just improved that's all.

Valley's Jr class is now basically down to a few players. The best of the bunch left for New Boston. The best pure athlete in the class hasn't played since his freshman year. The senior class has two kids that have played a lot of minutes but another would be 3 year varsity player chose not to play.

When Valley has rebuilt "within a few years" it is because there was still talent playing. At this point, most of that talent has moved on or no longer playing basketball for whatever reason.

The Indians are going to struggle this season, but the talent is coming.

Thanks for the clarification on all of that. I was not knocking Horton, like I said I really think he does a good job with his kids. Valley doesn't stay down long, they always seem to put together really solid teams and with them on the cusp of being D4 (maybe they even are D4 I can't remember), they can become a D4 powerhouse with what the freshman and 8th grade classes have.

[Crab's Brother]

Very simple.

A.) The league is down compared to years past
B.) Valley did graduate some important seniors but they have some talent in the younger grades and 2 guys who started each game last year
C.) Valley typically doesn't stay down long, in the past they always rebuilt within a few years.
D.) I think Horton does a good job with his kids as evidenced in his 1st season last year.

Didn't think they'd be world beaters by any stretch of the imagination, just improved that's all.

Valley's Jr class is now basically down to a few players. The best of the bunch left for New Boston. The best pure athlete in the class hasn't played since his freshman year. The senior class has two kids that have played a lot of minutes but another would be 3 year varsity player chose not to play.

When Valley has rebuilt "within a few years" it is because there was still talent playing. At this point, most of that talent has moved on or no longer playing basketball for whatever reason.

The Indians are going to struggle this season, but the talent is coming.

Thanks for the clarification on all of that. I was not knocking Horton, like I said I really think he does a good job with his kids. Valley doesn't stay down long, they always seem to put together really solid teams and with them on the cusp of being D4 (maybe they even are D4 I can't remember), they can become a D4 powerhouse with what the freshman and 8th grade classes have.

Valley is D4 (Smaller than Western now) and they will be poised to make deep runs with the talent that is coming. Good times on the horizon.

[transplant]

If Valley was able to keep the players that left the district, this year would be a different story. But what can you do. Hope Horton can get them rolling. Def good time on the horizon. Hoping to make it over and watch them some this year.

[The Ghost of Swanker]

So valley is D4 this year?