Marietta (7-0)@ Meigs (8-0) Friday-1/3/25

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Re: Marietta (7-0)@ Meigs (8-0) Friday-1/3/25

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Sweater poorly knit wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 8:42 pm What was the confusion at the end of the game? Watched on hudl, not sure what the ref was thinking?
Referee made an error and blew the whistle after the first field goal attempt in the last couple of seconds. Then, the officials proceeded to allow the second field goal attempt to count, even though it was a dead ball. That’s what the officials were discussing. How three officials can take all that time to discuss it and award the basket is just inexplicable.


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Hookshot wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:46 pm Somebody who watched the game explain how that last basket by Meigs could have counted. The official blew the whistle after the missed field goal attempt with about 2.5 seconds left, and yet allowed Meigs to rebound and score. If the whistle was a mistake (which it was) nothing after the whistle can be permitted. Meigs should have had the ball out of bounds with about two seconds to play, down 45-44. Officials can make mistakes, even an inadvertent whistle. But they collectively together made an even bigger mistake. I'm writing this only to see if anyone wants to attempt to justify what I just described.
That doesn’t sound good


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SouthEast Hoops Fan wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:00 pm
Sweater poorly knit wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 8:42 pm What was the confusion at the end of the game? Watched on hudl, not sure what the ref was thinking?
Referee made an error and blew the whistle after the first field goal attempt in the last couple of seconds. Then, the officials proceeded to allow the second field goal attempt to count, even though it was a dead ball. That’s what the officials were discussing. How three officials can take all that time to discuss it and award the basket is just inexplicable.
Tigers had other chances to win, but that was a sorry end to an otherwise hard-fought game between two excellent teams.


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Hookshot wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:46 pm Somebody who watched the game explain how that last basket by Meigs could have counted. The official blew the whistle after the missed field goal attempt with about 2.5 seconds left, and yet allowed Meigs to rebound and score. If the whistle was a mistake (which it was) nothing after the whistle can be permitted. Meigs should have had the ball out of bounds with about two seconds to play, down 45-44. Officials can make mistakes, even an inadvertent whistle. But they collectively together made an even bigger mistake. I'm writing this only to see if anyone wants to attempt to justify what I just described.
Gross. Inadvertent whistle should’ve stopped it immediately. If Meigs had possession, they get it OOB. If not, a jump ball.

Can’t let that happen in any game, let alone a game like this one.


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I feel bad for the official because mistakes happen but as the story is told above….would like to hear why Meigs didn’t have to take the ball out of bounds and the bucket counted.


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I think this was a Pfloyd game tonight. Will be interesting to see how he diplomatically summarizes this.


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Good win tonight by the marauders. But was one of the poorest games I’ve seen them play this season. Brinager didn’t play as well offensively tonight considering how dominant he’s been but still had intensity on the defensive end. Davis stepped up tonight in scoring. As a whole the Meigs defense was poor inside definitely something they need to work on if they plan on making a tournament run. Marietta will definitely be the toughest team they face in the regular season.


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As someone who didn’t see one second of the game I assume that when two good teams play each other and each team played the worst game of the season….the other team gets a huge credit in that….unless they were like 4/15 on free throws or something

Good teams take away what you like to do and what you are good at doing… taking that away forces you to do things you aren’t quite as great at and often you don’t do as well


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Ironman92 wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:42 pm As someone who didn’t see one second of the game I assume that when two good teams play each other and each team played the worst game of the season….the other team gets a huge credit in that….unless they were like 4/15 on free throws or something

Good teams take away what you like to do and what you are good at doing… taking that away forces you to do things you aren’t quite as great at and often you don’t do as well
100%. Rarely is there a 1 point game between unbeaten teams where both sides think they played well, but that’s due to the quality of the opponent and typically their coaching as well.


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Whistle blew while ball was bouncing around cylinder on first shot. Meigs rebounded and put up another shot that went in after whistle had blown. Referees huddled decided to count the basket. And marietta had 1.3 sec. Referees totally blew that part of the game


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Neither team shot well but was an aggressive defensive game for both teams and by that being said any ending would have been better than that ending. I see a review going to ohsaa But for the most the officials let them play
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Jagros wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:39 pm Neither team shot well but was an aggressive defensive game for both teams and by that being said any ending would have been better than that ending. I see a review going to ohsaa
Let 1996 North Adams know how it goes


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Like they always do nothing will happen lol


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Jagros wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:36 pm Whistle blew while ball was bouncing around cylinder on first shot. Meigs rebounded and put up another shot that went in after whistle had blown. Referees huddled decided to count the basket. And marietta had 1.3 sec. Referees totally blew that part of the game
Sometimes referees make a split-second decision and can’t “undo” the call and make it right. In this case they huddled about it, discussed it, and still ignored the rule book. Not right.


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Sweater poorly knit wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 8:42 pm What was the confusion at the end of the game? Watched on hudl, not sure what the ref was thinking?
At first, I thought the ref was going to call a foul. That wasn't the case so in my opinion Marietta coach during the timeout told the ref if Meigs make a bucket he wants a timeout as soon as ball goes thru the rim and the ref thought the ball went in on the first shot. I don't know but this only my opinion. But can a coach call a timeout in advance?


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A good official will communicate with coaches at the end of games to get an idea of what they are thinking (I want a timeout, we are going to foul immediately, etc.). I think your point is a good one that maybe that communication happened and the official just jumped the gun trying to give Marietta the timeout with as much time as possible on the clock. Quick question, was the put back uncontested? Doesn't change the error but i am just curious if anyone thinks he would have scored even if the whistle had not been blown. Also, did the clock keep running after the whistle?


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If anyone would like to see the events, here's the URL: https://fan.hudl.com/usa/oh/pomeroy/org ... MjZkZTQ%3D

Go to the 1:20:31 mark to see the inbounds that led up to the inadvertent whistle.


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dboy wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:46 am A good official will communicate with coaches at the end of games to get an idea of what they are thinking (I want a timeout, we are going to foul immediately, etc.). I think your point is a good one that maybe that communication happened and the official just jumped the gun trying to give Marietta the timeout with as much time as possible on the clock. Quick question, was the put back uncontested? Doesn't change the error but i am just curious if anyone thinks he would have scored even if the whistle had not been blown. Also, did the clock keep running after the whistle?
player caught and released the ball in the air before he came down and yes, players kept playing. It was so load in the gym I don't think anybody heard the whistle. they did put a second back on the clock. it was 0.8 left when clock stopped. adjusted to 1.8


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itsme wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:42 am
dboy wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:46 am A good official will communicate with coaches at the end of games to get an idea of what they are thinking (I want a timeout, we are going to foul immediately, etc.). I think your point is a good one that maybe that communication happened and the official just jumped the gun trying to give Marietta the timeout with as much time as possible on the clock. Quick question, was the put back uncontested? Doesn't change the error but i am just curious if anyone thinks he would have scored even if the whistle had not been blown. Also, did the clock keep running after the whistle?
player caught and released the ball in the air before he came down and yes, players kept playing. It was so load in the gym I don't think anybody heard the whistle. they did put a second back on the clock. it was 0.8 left when clock stopped. adjusted to 1.8
Loud not load


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dboy wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:46 am A good official will communicate with coaches at the end of games to get an idea of what they are thinking (I want a timeout, we are going to foul immediately, etc.). I think your point is a good one that maybe that communication happened and the official just jumped the gun trying to give Marietta the timeout with as much time as possible on the clock. Quick question, was the put back uncontested? Doesn't change the error but i am just curious if anyone thinks he would have scored even if the whistle had not been blown. Also, did the clock keep running after the whistle?
I also wondered about it being uncontested…but seemed doubtful in such a tight game with 2 big teams


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