Crowd Conduct

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It would be hard for someone to argue that fans are as intense and as good about following teams as they were 15+ years ago. Attendance is down, and the games have lost some of the meaning they once had which is sad to see. If you disagree with me, just think back on a Piketon vs Waverly game between 2009-2011 and tell me if that game has the same attendance and atmosphere today. Or take a Chillicothe vs Greenfield, Portsmouth vs Ironton, etc. Every elite team in southern Ohio used to have some heated rivalries that led to high anticipation before the game. I remember as a kid going to Waverly's downtown gym and it being filled up clear to the top on several occasions. It has been several years since I have seen it close, even for tournament games. Some of this may be due to the lack of quality teams. Just using two schools as an example look at Chillicothe, and Portsmouth now and compare these teams to 10-20 years ago. Burg is down as well, it has been awhile since we have seen a Miller, Spradlin, Burleson type of player with the exception of Holden. Kretzer was at Waverly, around the time Piketon went to state and shortly before Chillicothe won state and Greenfield had Dante Jackson. Ironton had Fletcher, and Carter. All of these guys played around the same time and made for great games. We need to get kids off phones and get them to gym so I can watch some good basketball again. :lol:


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bobcats94 wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:24 am It would be hard for someone to argue that fans are as intense and as good about following teams as they were 15+ years ago. Attendance is down, and the games have lost some of the meaning they once had which is sad to see. If you disagree with me, just think back on a Piketon vs Waverly game between 2009-2011 and tell me if that game has the same attendance and atmosphere today. Or take a Chillicothe vs Greenfield, Portsmouth vs Ironton, etc. Every elite team in southern Ohio used to have some heated rivalries that led to high anticipation before the game. I remember as a kid going to Waverly's downtown gym and it being filled up clear to the top on several occasions. It has been several years since I have seen it close, even for tournament games. Some of this may be due to the lack of quality teams. Just using two schools as an example look at Chillicothe, and Portsmouth now and compare these teams to 10-20 years ago. Burg is down as well, it has been awhile since we have seen a Miller, Spradlin, Burleson type of player with the exception of Holden. Kretzer was at Waverly, around the time Piketon went to state and shortly before Chillicothe won state and Greenfield had Dante Jackson. Ironton had Fletcher, and Carter. All of these guys played around the same time and made for great games. We need to get kids off phones and get them to gym so I can watch some good basketball again. :lol:
I think part of the crowds being slightly smaller is due to streaming. You can stay home and flip back and forth between games for free. I’m not staying the crowd would still be what they used to be 20+ years ago. But I think it does play a part in it. As far as watching good basketball, that was a heck of a stretch in the area that you mentioned with good players/teams. But there is still a lot of good quality basketball being played in the area. Waverly went to state a few years ago and had a superstar player in Robertson. That same year Western Pike I believe made it to the elite 8. This year in the SOC I look for Minford to make it to the elite 8, I would say if they don’t they would deem the season a slight disappointment. And Webster should make it that far as well. Both of those teams have a couple of really good basketball players.
There aren’t many if any at all D1 players in the area, but I believe some of those kids have the skill to get recruited at a high level like that but just don’t have the size.


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I seen something very interesting at the Coal Grive at Ironton game on Saturday night. Coal Grove was down 16 at the half and down 18 early second half and slowly cutting into the tigers lead it was down to 13 and then with about a minute to go, Coal Grove had just cut it to 8 and it was getting loud and the atmosphere was awesome, then one of the referees blew his whistle and them told Coach Vanderhoof from Coal Grove that he needed to jeep his cheerleaders cleared from the lane lol or he was going to give the Hornets a technical foul lmao smh. Coach Hoof says I don't control the cheerleaders, talk to our Atheltic Director or Principal. Mind you the Cheerleaders weren't in the lane, but one of the Cheerleaders dad of the girl accused of it was livid, so he went and was in the refs face, pointing at him and yelling and got escorted from the game lol. Well while this was happening the ever famous looking for trouble Ironton Football Coach Pendleton had come down onto the court and was looking to interven or start a fight or whatever, but the parent was kinked out before he got to him. Anyhow, this whole cheerleader fiasco killed the Hornet momentum and the Tigera ended up winning by 13


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RJ71C71R wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:32 pm I seen something very interesting at the Coal Grive at Ironton game on Saturday night. Coal Grove was down 16 at the half and down 18 early second half and slowly cutting into the tigers lead it was down to 13 and then with about a minute to go, Coal Grove had just cut it to 8 and it was getting loud and the atmosphere was awesome, then one of the referees blew his whistle and them told Coach Vanderhoof from Coal Grove that he needed to jeep his cheerleaders cleared from the lane lol or he was going to give the Hornets a technical foul lmao smh. Coach Hoof says I don't control the cheerleaders, talk to our Atheltic Director or Principal. Mind you the Cheerleaders weren't in the lane, but one of the Cheerleaders dad of the girl accused of it was livid, so he went and was in the refs face, pointing at him and yelling and got escorted from the game lol. Well while this was happening the ever famous looking for trouble Ironton Football Coach Pendleton had come down onto the court and was looking to interven or start a fight or whatever, but the parent was kinked out before he got to him. Anyhow, this whole cheerleader fiasco killed the Hornet momentum and the Tigera ended up winning by 13

If this was at Ironton then the Administration has every right to go towards the situation and make sure everything is under control. If this was at Coal Grove I would hope the CG administration would do the same. The Home school is responsible for these type of things and the administration can help or do whatever necessary to help escort a "livid" fan!


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RJ71C71R wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:32 pm I seen something very interesting at the Coal Grive at Ironton game on Saturday night. Coal Grove was down 16 at the half and down 18 early second half and slowly cutting into the tigers lead it was down to 13 and then with about a minute to go, Coal Grove had just cut it to 8 and it was getting loud and the atmosphere was awesome, then one of the referees blew his whistle and them told Coach Vanderhoof from Coal Grove that he needed to jeep his cheerleaders cleared from the lane lol or he was going to give the Hornets a technical foul lmao smh. Coach Hoof says I don't control the cheerleaders, talk to our Atheltic Director or Principal. Mind you the Cheerleaders weren't in the lane, but one of the Cheerleaders dad of the girl accused of it was livid, so he went and was in the refs face, pointing at him and yelling and got escorted from the game lol. Well while this was happening the ever famous looking for trouble Ironton Football Coach Pendleton had come down onto the court and was looking to interven or start a fight or whatever, but the parent was kinked out before he got to him. Anyhow, this whole cheerleader fiasco killed the Hornet momentum and the Tigera ended up winning by 13
Pendleton is the AD at Ironton I’d hope any area AD would try and help calm the situation…


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Oh when the tide is turned. I've saw several fan bases upset about how an opposing coach and team are playing against them. Ex. Pressing when up 20 in late second half, etc. But forget when years prior they did the same thing, when up by way more than 20 points. Lol.
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The Ghost of Swanker wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:45 pm Still seeing a lot of people upset about over the back and over AND back calls. 2 feet and ball across midcourt folks
The over and back is 2 feet and ball coming from the back court towards the front court. But from front court to the back anything that touches the mid court line or hits the back court is over and back


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There was a Waverly fan/parent ejected last night at Eastern Brown vs Waverly. I had not thought about it, but I cannot remember the last time I have seen this happen. Whatever the lady said the ref was VERY quick on the toss.


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WonderNova wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:44 am There was a Waverly fan/parent ejected last night at Eastern Brown vs Waverly. I had not thought about it, but I cannot remember the last time I have seen this happen. Whatever the lady said the ref was VERY quick on the toss.
Never been a licensed a ref, took classes, or had any training. But I've always said I like refs to not make the game about them, by trying to be seen, or make a scene by interacting with the crowd, but if they do toss someone out. It had to be bad right??


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WonderNova wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:44 am There was a Waverly fan/parent ejected last night at Eastern Brown vs Waverly. I had not thought about it, but I cannot remember the last time I have seen this happen. Whatever the lady said the ref was VERY quick on the toss.
The same lady was tossed 2 weeks ago at Waverly.


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CharlieHustle wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 11:26 am
WonderNova wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:44 am There was a Waverly fan/parent ejected last night at Eastern Brown vs Waverly. I had not thought about it, but I cannot remember the last time I have seen this happen. Whatever the lady said the ref was VERY quick on the toss.
The same lady was tossed 2 weeks ago at Waverly.
If so, then the Lady needs to be made an example of. Ban her for a year or have the police give a disorderly conduct and Fine her!

Some fans make it a game and if they get tossed then oh well. Administration step up and BAN this so called Fanatic!


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itsme wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:37 am
The Ghost of Swanker wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:45 pm Still seeing a lot of people upset about over the back and over AND back calls. 2 feet and ball across midcourt folks
The over and back is 2 feet and ball coming from the back court towards the front court. But from front court to the back anything that touches the mid court line or hits the back court is over and back
Yes what I meant was you’ll see a kid step over from back to front with one foot then retreat into the back court again and the crowd loses their minds.


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Don't see SW going all the way- won't be able to count on Roberts--to much of a head case.

VC has a few fans -- that are out of control- the school needs to step in. :D :D :D


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vcgrad wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:48 pm Don't see SW going all the way- won't be able to count on Roberts--to much of a head case.

VC has a few fans -- that are out of control- the school needs to step in. :D :D :D
If anyone thinks this Webster team just fully counts on Roberts to win their games, then you haven't watched them play too many games this season. If Roberts is on and hitting shots the team will go through him 100%, why not when he's locked in he's one of the best shooters in southeast Ohio. If he's having a off game the others pick up the slack. Shupert and Barnard are able to put up 20+ points in given game and Stephens and McClintic can each come off the bench and put up 15+. If I remember right the Barnard kid torched Vinton County and dropped 26 on them ;)


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How do you get ejected more than once in a two week span?

I would think that the embarrassment to your kids of getting thrown out would be enough to stop it from happening again, but without even knowing who the person is, I’d guess this person will get ejected again in the future.


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There was just an incident in Piketon over the last few days where a dad was big mad at a referee of a Junior High game for an ejection and put the official's full name on blast on Facebook. The popular "Offside" page caught wind of it and it looks like their 100k+ followers *encouraged* the dad to take his original post down


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SoccerDad wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:40 pm There was just an incident in Piketon over the last few days where a dad was big mad at a referee of a Junior High game for an ejection and put the official's full name on blast on Facebook. The popular "Offside" page caught wind of it and it looks like their 100k+ followers *encouraged* the dad to take his original post down
Yeah, that whole thing looked crazy.


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SoccerDad wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:40 pm There was just an incident in Piketon over the last few days where a dad was big mad at a referee of a Junior High game for an ejection and put the official's full name on blast on Facebook. The popular "Offside" page caught wind of it and it looks like their 100k+ followers *encouraged* the dad to take his original post down
Why would he be encouraged to take down a Facebook post?


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danicalifornia wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:33 pm How do you get ejected more than once in a two week span?

I would think that the embarrassment to your kids of getting thrown out would be enough to stop it from happening again, but without even knowing who the person is, I’d guess this person will get ejected again in the future.
Fake tough guys. They love the attention, even if it is the wrong kind.


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MadeInRossCounty wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:57 pm
SoccerDad wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:40 pm There was just an incident in Piketon over the last few days where a dad was big mad at a referee of a Junior High game for an ejection and put the official's full name on blast on Facebook. The popular "Offside" page caught wind of it and it looks like their 100k+ followers *encouraged* the dad to take his original post down
Why would he be encouraged to take down a Facebook post?
Because DOXing referees that you're dissatisfied with is not okay. File your complaint with your athletic director.


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