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peake71 wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 8:49 pm You just haven't see the right ones yet. The obnoxious student sections are still out there. One is Cabell Midland.
I bet they was, I’m guessing Valley was annoying aswell


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Actually Valley's crowd was loud and cheered their team. They were one of the better ones I have seen this year. We have games coming up with teams I think are probably the worst.


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greygoose wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:23 am For the most part the games I've been to have been pretty mild mannered by the fans, obviously a call here or there where ppl might boo or question it but never really went any further in terms of affecting the rest of the game. At the same time here recently heard of an official talking about how terrible a certain fan base has always been and let watched him let that bias overflow into a game. I think back to 10-20 years ago I think student sections and fans not just parents were really bad.
Waverly has same woman yell every game and it's getting old. Everyone in stand knows without having to even look. She has been tossed even and somehow our administration never says a word to her.


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allaboutsports wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:05 pm
greygoose wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:23 am For the most part the games I've been to have been pretty mild mannered by the fans, obviously a call here or there where ppl might boo or question it but never really went any further in terms of affecting the rest of the game. At the same time here recently heard of an official talking about how terrible a certain fan base has always been and let watched him let that bias overflow into a game. I think back to 10-20 years ago I think student sections and fans not just parents were really bad.
Waverly has same woman yell every game and it's getting old. Everyone in stand knows without having to even look. She has been tossed even and somehow our administration never says a word to her.
Point her out on Tuesday I’ll come sit beside her and really make her mad


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allaboutsports wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:05 pm
greygoose wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:23 am For the most part the games I've been to have been pretty mild mannered by the fans, obviously a call here or there where ppl might boo or question it but never really went any further in terms of affecting the rest of the game. At the same time here recently heard of an official talking about how terrible a certain fan base has always been and let watched him let that bias overflow into a game. I think back to 10-20 years ago I think student sections and fans not just parents were really bad.
Waverly has same woman yell every game and it's getting old. Everyone in stand knows without having to even look. She has been tossed even and somehow our administration never says a word to her.
If it's the one I'm thinking of I'm sure they want to keep the twins happy, feel bad for the kids really good kids she just needs to hush up quite a bit. There isn't something on EVERY single play.


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The Ghost of Swanker wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:24 pm
allaboutsports wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:05 pm
greygoose wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:23 am For the most part the games I've been to have been pretty mild mannered by the fans, obviously a call here or there where ppl might boo or question it but never really went any further in terms of affecting the rest of the game. At the same time here recently heard of an official talking about how terrible a certain fan base has always been and let watched him let that bias overflow into a game. I think back to 10-20 years ago I think student sections and fans not just parents were really bad.
Waverly has same woman yell every game and it's getting old. Everyone in stand knows without having to even look. She has been tossed even and somehow our administration never says a word to her.
Point her out on Tuesday I’ll come sit beside her and really make her mad
I'll promise you this...that's not a path you want to go down you can talk the talk here but I promise you that wouldn't go over well in person.


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greygoose wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:10 am
The Ghost of Swanker wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:24 pm
allaboutsports wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:05 pm

Waverly has same woman yell every game and it's getting old. Everyone in stand knows without having to even look. She has been tossed even and somehow our administration never says a word to her.
Point her out on Tuesday I’ll come sit beside her and really make her mad
I'll promise you this...that's not a path you want to go down you can talk the talk here but I promise you that wouldn't go over well in person.

She sounds like a real joy....lol


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I walk the walk too


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The Ghost of Swanker wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 11:23 am I walk the walk too
That's good, you guys can walk out of the game hand in hand then. :lol:


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MadeInRossCounty wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:31 pm Has anybody been to youth games, elementary 2nd-6th and heard or seen any bad sportsmanship that stood out?
I've been to quite a few HS games this year, and streamed even more, and I'll say that I feel like the sportsmanship has been better than previous seasons. From both the teams and the fans.

However, just this last weekend, thanks to a couple of (I can only assume drunk) belligerent women in the stands and a few cursing players the entire gym of a THIRD GRADE tournament was cleared out to allow the game continue. A few parents were warned multiple times, kicked out, with their kids cursing at the refs and ejected. Then the decision was made for ALL fans to be removed. A bit of a "punish the good with the bad" decision, but probably necessary since the kids were starting to get upset with the constant F Bombs and incessant screaming at every play.

For those from Southern Ohio, it should be no surprise to hear that the school the parents and kids were from was Portsmouth West. It was an embarrassing display of unsportsmanlike conduct that will only further embitter a whole generation against the West Side and perpetuate the reputation that West cares more about fighting and arguing than sportsmanship and the game. No doubt it will also encourage those West players to act like their parents and grandparents before them, continuing the cycle.


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MadeInRossCounty wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:31 pm Has anybody been to youth games, elementary 2nd-6th and heard or seen any bad sportsmanship that stood out?
I was told today that after a 5th grade championship game at Webster yesterday a burg parent physically attacked a ref after losing. An Oak Hill parent defended the ref until more Burg and Oak Hill adults could intervene. That has to be embarrassing and you probably cannot watch your child play again.


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One thing I saw was a ref thinking he was funny by acting like he was handing a rather large, loud, female fan his whistle after she questioned a call. It really escalated when he did that and doubt that he expected her to grab it and stomp on it. He ejected her and she challenged him to a fight in the parking lot after the game. He wanted no part of her and made sure he had an escort to his car afterwards. Poor fan behavior that was made much worse by the actions of the ref. SMH


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I had also heard the same, it's sad but true that both of the incidents did occur, and "AT ELEMETARY SCHOOL BASKETBALL". People wonder why there's not enough officials at all levels and in every sport anymore this is why. It's not worth it for them having to put up with absolute nonsense. Everyone should know by now that Officials are going to make some bad calls in every game, but it's part of the game. Likewise officials know and expect there will be times that fans will boo them and yell out at them from time to time, but if you're a constant problem every single game and definitely if you come down on the floor and aggressively go at a referee, or a coach, or a player in any way, then you've crossed the line and some form of punishment, fine, or ban needs to happen. How quickly people forget that this is a game and that it should be a fun competitive experience for those kids/students and it should always be one that is a positive experience as well. Kids shouldn't have to be scared or intimidated while playing a game. Something needs to happen sooner than later on this topic; I'm surprised it's not talked about more.
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Unioto had a fan ejected from the 6th grade girls game on Sunday. Said something to the effect of "that is bull****", to which the ref said, "that's enough". The fan proceeded to yell at the ref so he tossed him. That made it worse to where the fan eventually stated "I'll F*** you up*, "meet me outside", to which the ref responded with "yeah, yeah, that's what they all say; you won't be there"!

Said fan was outside after the game, but did end up leaving before the official came out.
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JeepNation26 wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 2:26 pm I had also heard the same, it's sad but true that both of the incidents did occur, and "AT ELEMETARY SCHOOL BASKETBALL". People wonder why there's not enough officials at all levels and in every sport anymore this why. It's not worth it for them having to put up with absolute nonsense. Everyone should know by now that Officials are going to make some bad calls in every game, but it's part of the game. Likewise officials know and expect there will be times that fans will boo them and yell out at them from time, but if you're a constant problem every single game and definitely if you come down on the floor and aggressively go at a referee, or a coach, or a player in any way, then you've crossed the line and some form of punishment, fine, or ban needs happen. How quickly people forget that this is a game and that it should be a fun competitive experience for those kids/students and it should always be one that is a positive experience as well. Kids shouldn't have to be scared or intimidated while playing a game. Something needs to happen sooner than later on this topic; I'm surprised it's not talked about more.

I believe it's talked about quite a bit. Administrators need to take action quicker. Officials need to understand they should never add fuel to the fire. If a person is out of line then get an administrator to escort them out. But never give them a whistle or act like you are! When you take the class you should know what to expect!

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In the last few decades Howie had total control over the refs but when he was at Southern he said he got a lot of help from the fans. In those days the refs knew better than to make a bad call against them or they’d have to answer to the boys sitting down in front.


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I think more schools and places hosting youth games and youth tournaments need to be more proactive than reactive with punishment clear and dry ahead of time. What are opinions on whoever is hosting say ahead of time, if you have a fan ejected for poor behavior it is an automatic team loss and that team is disqualified for the remainder of the tournament?


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MadeInRossCounty wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:50 pm I think more schools and places hosting youth games and youth tournaments need to be more proactive than reactive with punishment clear and dry ahead of time. What are opinions on whoever is hosting say ahead of time, if you have a fan ejected for poor behavior it is an automatic team loss and that team is disqualified for the remainder of the tournament?

Honestly, you should not punish the kids. Also, a Ref with a quick trigger could clear out a whole field of teams.
Proactive to me is if you see a fan being stupid, an administrator needs to be able to go over and tell them to settle down or they will be escorted out.


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baseball16 wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:54 am
MadeInRossCounty wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:50 pm I think more schools and places hosting youth games and youth tournaments need to be more proactive than reactive with punishment clear and dry ahead of time. What are opinions on whoever is hosting say ahead of time, if you have a fan ejected for poor behavior it is an automatic team loss and that team is disqualified for the remainder of the tournament?

Honestly, you should not punish the kids. Also, a Ref with a quick trigger could clear out a whole field of teams.
Proactive to me is if you see a fan being stupid, an administrator needs to be able to go over and tell them to settle down or they will be escorted out.
For the youth league games school administrators aren’t always in attendance. The schools should probably require the youth league to hire security. Also if they are not already, start enforcing a progressive consequence policy that bans repeat offenders from attending future games.


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baseball16 wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:54 am
MadeInRossCounty wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:50 pm I think more schools and places hosting youth games and youth tournaments need to be more proactive than reactive with punishment clear and dry ahead of time. What are opinions on whoever is hosting say ahead of time, if you have a fan ejected for poor behavior it is an automatic team loss and that team is disqualified for the remainder of the tournament?

Honestly, you should not punish the kids. Also, a Ref with a quick trigger could clear out a whole field of teams.
Proactive to me is if you see a fan being stupid, an administrator needs to be able to go over and tell them to settle down or they will be escorted out.
My thought on it is, it makes adults think about how their actions can affect other people, especially the kids. Kids are getting punished already by being around that type of behavior. That needs to happen to stop to all these selfish embarrassing adults that don't get punished for acting inappropriately during 3rd-6th grade basketball games. I bet if a team was made to forfeit, it wouldn't happen as often.


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