jumper wrote:Eaglesnest,Why do you think the horses are there I understand it is a difficult place to coach but most of the kids Gren has back didn't get alot of experience last year I know they have a nice point guard which is very important,but they have no real post player and they didn't play much defense last year on top of all this I don't one of last years players will make the team this year due to his own attitude he has displayed all summer.They do have some nice young tallent but it has to have time to develop.It takes time. Again Just my opinion
Agree the talent is young. But, they are good shooters and very quick. Beat us 20 points both games with everyone back but the center. You have the 6-5 Poe kid to plug in there. Anyhow, I agree Kitchen deserves time. Any new coach needs 3-4 years to at least get several groups of kids to play through their system before they can be fairly evaluated in my opinion.
I take it you are not from Green. I say this based on you saying that you are related to Coach Kitchen. I will tell you first and foremost in the minds of Green fans, not parents, is to have a team to be proud of on the floor. This does not mean winning every single game. I have been away awhile, but still have ties to Green. All my pals back home were telling me they could not even get behind the teams under the previous coach. If Coach Kitchen has discipline, I take it he will, and has the kids playing hard and growing, then he will get the time he deserves to put a consistent winner on the floor. From everything I have heard, this team needs to learn to play as a team in order to become winners.
I wish Coach Kitchen and the Bobcats all the best.
Green certainly has some young talent. Possibly losing the player alluded to earlier could really hurt. Who are the players projected to replace the two seniors lost (R. Ratcliffe and Willard) from last season and now this upcoming senior?
im a new user bt i went to green last year and played and yes they do have alot of talent coming back... and i also talkd to that player and found out he and their new coach are now on good terms he said no worries he's still on the team
First, the young man in question won't really be missed, team wise. He is a talented player when he is under control. I feel sorry for him, he has had a lot of family turmoil recently and it seems certain people have persuaded him to conduct himself in this manner. I hope he sits down and evaluates his position, and realizes that the COACH has his best interests in mind when it comes to this game, not his family or friends. Most kids think the team can't survive without them, the same goes for the kids family but in reality they are cloaked in a blanket of fantasy. My hope is that he makes amends with the staff, comes in humble and works his butt off. He can contribute in a big way IF he listens and does what the coach asks him to do. Second, the notion that Green is a tough place to coach is just ignorant. Like most schools with a tradition, certain expectations will always be there. Playing defense, playing smart, playing hard for 4 quarters, playing the right way and having a commitment to excellence has come to be the norm at certain schools, Green included. Over the past 3 decades Green has had 4 coaches. 2 were outstanding, 1 was good and the other, well lets just say we had a major setback. Charlie doesn't have to worry about the fans not backing him if he gets back to the basics of hard nosed defense and smart team play. The folks in the Township know that talent varies from year to year and it is unrealistic to be 20-0 every year or win the SOC. Just play the right way. A good Defense will keep you in almost EVERY game. I use Clay, when Ward was there, as an example. Kitchen WILL have to tune out certain parents who complain that "Billy is the best player on the team, you need to play him more, why isn't Tommy starting?, my boy isn't getting a chance". He better tune them out or he won't last. I'm sure this goes on everywhere. I can just see Barrick or Persin making that "face" when they have had to deal with this and watching the kid ride home from practice with their mommy for the last time, feeling sorry for the kid.
HIGH FLYER wrote:im a new user bt i went to green last year and played and yes they do have alot of talent coming back... and i also talkd to that player and found out he and their new coach are now on good terms he said no worries he's still on the team
HIGHFLYER,I don't think you received the correct information.The player in question is not on the team now nor will he be.
I doubting that coach kitchen would appreciate you talking about HIS team decisions on this forum. I think I remember him having to have you tone things back a bit a while back .
If the young man comes to the coach with contrition, realizes the error of his ways and commits to the programs direction then the coach must give him a chance. I would lose a huge amount of respect for any coach who did not at least try to give a kid a chance. Coaches are teachers, teachers of the game and in the game of life. It is up to the boy to decide if he wants to participate or watch from the stands while his friends are having fun. The worst that can happen is that the boy doesn't conform and leaves the team by his or the coaches choice. Remember, we are talking about a 17-18 year old KID here, not an adult. I remember way back long ago when I was 17, I thought I was the smartest SOB on the planet but the older I got the more I realized what an idiot I was. I hope the young man reads this thread and understands that we all want to see him on the floor this winter but it must be for the betterment of the team, not the individual. There are no basketball scholarships waiting on anyone on this team, you play for fun, for the pride in your school and your community.
The kid was testing the coach imo. His test failed. Kitchen is a no nonsense guy. I see both sides of this coin. I would lean to giving the kid a chance to make amends.
Still, for all of us "non-franlin furnace folks, it would be helpful to know what player all of you are discussing....whether Kitchen allows him back on the team or not.
