Eastern (TVC) 08-09

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Binary wrote:Being new to the area, I have never actually seen an Eastern game. All I hear is how this coach stomps and screams the whole game, and that that is how they win. First, does the coach really act that way during games? Second, if he does act that way, how does he not get T'd up and thrown out of games? Are the officials really that afraid of the guy. Is he a big intimidating person? Does he only do that at home where he possibly schedules his own officials who will put up with his behavior? Or is all that talk just an exaggeration?



Well, Binary, you are going to have to go to some Eagles basketball games to form your opinion.
But, do not let everyone fool you. He does not win basketball games by screaming and altering referees calls. That rarely happens actually. Just, it looks like it happens sometimes.
He is a great coach and has a great mind for the game. He knows the game well, scouts teams well, and is very good at adjusting to a teams defense in the middle of the game. And the main strength he has as a coach is getting his players to listen. I think that every player really listens to what he says and tries their best to execute. They play really hard under him.
As for being intimidating, he actually is. He is not big and scary, but he is just one of those guys that is very respected around the area. And everyone wants to make sure they please him. Thats the only way I can see it.
And yes, most of the talk on here is exaggerated.
But, go to some games. They are fun to watch.


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I have to disagree with you on a few points 4 sporter.

1. As for being intimidating, maybe he is to the kids who play for him. Some coaches use that tactic to coach, especially older ones. Also he may be intimidating to the officials he hires, many of whom can't get games anywhere unless they favor the home team. But for normal adults, and officials with some scruples, he is not intimidating. Just annoying. Some officials who are not sure of themselves do allow him to intimidate them, but they do for any coach that screams and rants about the calls they make. He just does it more often than most.

2. The talk is not exaggerated. I have seen games, (at Eastern of course), in which the outcome was swayed by inept officials who did cower down to him and called the game the way he wanted it called. That is unethical on the officials part, but not exaggerated.


All that said, I do agree that he is well respected in the area. I also agree that he is an excellent coach who gets the most out of his players. I really don't think that he needs to stomp and scream to win. But the spectacle he puts on is part of the allure of going to Eastern games. Maybe that is by design? :mrgreen:


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who whines more the eastern or trimble coach?


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Well Eastern does not whine so is gotta be Trimble.


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I guess that makes 3 points I disagree with you on 4 sporter.


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I can't believe this talk. Sure, Coach Caldwell does raise his voice and stomp his feet..but lets remember that about 90% of the time this is to his players who do not execute --and not to the officials. If one of his boys doesnt do what he should, he will let him know aboit it. The thing that makes Howie a truly great coach is that he gets the absolute best out of all of his players. He does this by sometimes intimidating the boys because that is the only way to grab their attention.

There isn't one coach in the WORLD that doesnt complain about officiating...so lets not say he does it more than the rest. And I don't know where you guys are getting this thing about him getting calls in the Eagles Nest because seems like the last several years the calls are usually against the Eagles! Nevertheless, Eastern games are thrillers...this team will make a statement this year. I'm not saying tvc champs just yet, but they will make their presence felt...thats for sure.


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As I said earlier, he does use the technique of screaming and stomping to intimidate his players. There are coaches who feel the need to scream at the kids and try to scare them into playing better, especially older coaches. And yes he, like many many other coaches, get the best out of their players. But I think he has learned in recent years that not all of todays players respond positively to screaming, stomping and scare tactics.

As for the last few years, I think it is more a lack of talent causing the losing as opposed to calls going against him. Although I have heard some officials say the antics are getting old, and fewer officials give in to the stomp these days. But I think ultimately people are learning that no coach wins without talented players. Not even Howie.

As for this years team, hopefully you are right. It has been a long dry spell without a league championship brought back to the "Eagles Nest."


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I smell bad wrote:As I said earlier, he does use the technique of screaming and stomping to intimidate his players. There are coaches who feel the need to scream at the kids and try to scare them into playing better, especially older coaches. And yes he, like many many other coaches, get the best out of their players. But I think he has learned in recent years that not all of todays players respond positively to screaming, stomping and scare tactics.

As for the last few years, I think it is more a lack of talent causing the losing as opposed to calls going against him. Although I have heard some officials say the antics are getting old, and fewer officials give in to the stomp these days. But I think ultimately people are learning that no coach wins without talented players. Not even Howie.

As for this years team, hopefully you are right. It has been a long dry spell without a league championship brought back to the "Eagles Nest."



Very Well Said.. :122249


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freethrow wrote:If it's the Eastern Eagles there is one word....LOADED. They will win the TVC Hocking and give some
of the Ohio division teams they play a run.


the eagles will be very good this year under the dominating junior and sophmore classes


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eastern will win if they play defense. they are the kind of team that will be able to score in transition if they are able to create some turnovers and steals. if they get into a half court game they could have problems against a team with size.


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Lets get down to what matters how will they fair in the TVC


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the tvc championship will come down to whomever wins the rivalry between eastern and southern


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Sounds good Frenzy!!


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Who are the Eagles' big impact players?

Surprise Underclassmen?


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The TVC will definatley come down to the cross county rivialry between Southern and Eastern. I believe the games are the first and the last games for Southern. I dont know about Easterns schedule.

Saying that, i think that Southern will come out on top. With their Senior leadership coming into affect. Southern beat Eastern both times last year. With a big win at Eastern, so Southern isn't intimidated by Eastern, but Eastern will have something to prove, and will come out strong and play hard.

Should be a great couple of games!!!


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varsity players will be lynch,pierce,winebrenner,carroll,johnson,pratt,both hendrix boys,kimes,benedum,kyle connery


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Will Hendrix be suspended any for basketball because of his ejection saturday night?


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Im not sure but i think there should definatly be some type of punisment


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OHSAA bylaws state that any player that is suspended from a sporting event that is the last one of that sport, they will have to sit out two games of the next sport. So yes, he will have to sit out that first two games of the season.


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