Will Meigs win a game?
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Will Meigs win a game?
I'm not sure who all is on their schedule but it doesn't look good. New coach next year?
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Re: Will Meigs win a game?
I was going to wholeheartedly disagree with you, but when looking at their schedule, it's going to be tough to win more than a couple...at least with the start they have had. Now, it's very early, so no one should jump to conclussions yet.
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Re: Will Meigs win a game?
Not with the Coaching we have, I could sit here and list all the reasons why...but just go watch a game and you will see what I'm talking about. Only reason Meigs had a 10-10 season last year is because Coach Simpson was there. The kids play scared. If they make a tiny mistake he benches this. He has no clue of what he is doing. Take last night for example...The starters were Jesse Smith, Treay McKinney, Jared Williamson, Dillon Boyer and Dustin Ulbridge. The whole second half Treay McKinney seen maybe 2 minutes and Jared Williamson seen NO minutes.
Take a look at the season so Far.
Versus Eastern your high scorers were Cody Mattox and Treay McKinney
Versus Warren high scorers were Treay McKinney and Cody Stewart
Versus Nelsonville York high scorers were Darrell Goff and Jesse Smith
Versus River Vally high scorer was Jesse Smith
My point being is the coach tries too many different starting lineups and rotations, Get a set 5 to start with and quit pulling them out if they don't get one rebound. How about pulling the boys out that turn the ball over 5 times in the first period.
Anyone can see that Bennys style on offense is to stick with the play Flex and Basic in which is going to consist of 5-10 passes up top..In which more passes that the defense knows what your doing is going to lead to a turnover. Perhaps this is why you have 20+ turnovers a game. How about set up an offense and let the boys take what the defense gives them? Don't bench the kids because they don't stick with your set offense.
Take a look at your Defense, In four games your opponents #1, #2, and #3 men have scored all the points against you. That would be okay if they were beating you with outside shots, but thats not the case, you pull your big men out of the paint and your front men get beat and you have your big men out of position. It does not take a genius to figure this out.
Can all these losses fall on the Coaching. Yes they sure can outside of the Warren game. You have let 3 teams beat you because of your coaching. You have the talent and you have no way of using it. You pull kids out if they make a little mistake, but leave the ones that are 1-20 or turns the ball over 10 times. That is poor COACHING!
To answer the question of whether Meigs will win a game..Meigs will win 3 games maybe 4 this year. 2 against Alexander, 1 versus Wahama, and will beat Southern at Home. Is Meigs capable of winning 10+ games this year. Absolutely if changes are made and that starts with the Coaching Philosophy. Because the Coaching Philosophy hasn't worked in your last 6 years!!!
Take a look at the season so Far.
Versus Eastern your high scorers were Cody Mattox and Treay McKinney
Versus Warren high scorers were Treay McKinney and Cody Stewart
Versus Nelsonville York high scorers were Darrell Goff and Jesse Smith
Versus River Vally high scorer was Jesse Smith
My point being is the coach tries too many different starting lineups and rotations, Get a set 5 to start with and quit pulling them out if they don't get one rebound. How about pulling the boys out that turn the ball over 5 times in the first period.
Anyone can see that Bennys style on offense is to stick with the play Flex and Basic in which is going to consist of 5-10 passes up top..In which more passes that the defense knows what your doing is going to lead to a turnover. Perhaps this is why you have 20+ turnovers a game. How about set up an offense and let the boys take what the defense gives them? Don't bench the kids because they don't stick with your set offense.
Take a look at your Defense, In four games your opponents #1, #2, and #3 men have scored all the points against you. That would be okay if they were beating you with outside shots, but thats not the case, you pull your big men out of the paint and your front men get beat and you have your big men out of position. It does not take a genius to figure this out.
Can all these losses fall on the Coaching. Yes they sure can outside of the Warren game. You have let 3 teams beat you because of your coaching. You have the talent and you have no way of using it. You pull kids out if they make a little mistake, but leave the ones that are 1-20 or turns the ball over 10 times. That is poor COACHING!
To answer the question of whether Meigs will win a game..Meigs will win 3 games maybe 4 this year. 2 against Alexander, 1 versus Wahama, and will beat Southern at Home. Is Meigs capable of winning 10+ games this year. Absolutely if changes are made and that starts with the Coaching Philosophy. Because the Coaching Philosophy hasn't worked in your last 6 years!!!
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Re: Will Meigs win a game?
No!meigs_pride wrote:Not with the Coaching we have, I could sit here and list all the reasons why...but just go watch a game and you will see what I'm talking about. Only reason Meigs had a 10-10 season last year is because Coach Simpson was there. The kids play scared. If they make a tiny mistake he benches this. He has no clue of what he is doing. Take last night for example...The starters were Jesse Smith, Treay McKinney, Jared Williamson, Dillon Boyer and Dustin Ulbridge. The whole second half Treay McKinney seen maybe 2 minutes and Jared Williamson seen NO minutes.
Take a look at the season so Far.
Versus Eastern your high scorers were Cody Mattox and Treay McKinney
Versus Warren high scorers were Treay McKinney and Cody Stewart
Versus Nelsonville York high scorers were Darrell Goff and Jesse Smith
Versus River Vally high scorer was Jesse Smith
My point being is the coach tries too many different starting lineups and rotations, Get a set 5 to start with and quit pulling them out if they don't get one rebound. How about pulling the boys out that turn the ball over 5 times in the first period.
Anyone can see that Bennys style on offense is to stick with the play Flex and Basic in which is going to consist of 5-10 passes up top..In which more passes that the defense knows what your doing is going to lead to a turnover. Perhaps this is why you have 20+ turnovers a game. How about set up an offense and let the boys take what the defense gives them? Don't bench the kids because they don't stick with your set offense.
Take a look at your Defense, In four games your opponents #1, #2, and #3 men have scored all the points against you. That would be okay if they were beating you with outside shots, but thats not the case, you pull your big men out of the paint and your front men get beat and you have your big men out of position. It does not take a genius to figure this out.
Can all these losses fall on the Coaching. Yes they sure can outside of the Warren game. You have let 3 teams beat you because of your coaching. You have the talent and you have no way of using it. You pull kids out if they make a little mistake, but leave the ones that are 1-20 or turns the ball over 10 times. That is poor COACHING!
To answer the question of whether Meigs will win a game..Meigs will win 3 games maybe 4 this year. 2 against Alexander, 1 versus Wahama, and will beat Southern at Home. Is Meigs capable of winning 10+ games this year. Absolutely if changes are made and that starts with the Coaching Philosophy. Because the Coaching Philosophy hasn't worked in your last 6 years!!!
Meigs problems are not all coaching they have 2 players! Post Man and Point Guard? Other than that they really have no one who are decent defenders or a threat to score.
Maybe they should move up a couple kids off the JV,they were decent.
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Re: Will Meigs win a game?
Super Trooper wrote:1-19. Theyll beat Wahama..maybe
Wahama should beat Meigs and Eastern.
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Re: Will Meigs win a game?
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Meigs problems are not all coaching they have 2 players! Post Man and Point Guard? Other than that they really have no one who are decent defenders or a threat to score.
Maybe they should move up a couple kids off the JV,they were decent.[/quote]
And who are they going to pick up from JV? They brought a JV Player up last night and he was 1 for about 18. They have the players, but Coach Ewing does not play to his strengths. Yo have to utilize the talent to their strengths. Keep your big men in the paint and stop having one of them go out and cover the corner perimeter. Meigs problem is their coaching. Not taking away from Meigs JV, but they only have a few players that are good against the level that they are playing, keep in mind that the Meigs JV was playing pretty much a Freshmen River Valley team last night.
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Meigs problems are not all coaching they have 2 players! Post Man and Point Guard? Other than that they really have no one who are decent defenders or a threat to score.
Maybe they should move up a couple kids off the JV,they were decent.[/quote]
And who are they going to pick up from JV? They brought a JV Player up last night and he was 1 for about 18. They have the players, but Coach Ewing does not play to his strengths. Yo have to utilize the talent to their strengths. Keep your big men in the paint and stop having one of them go out and cover the corner perimeter. Meigs problem is their coaching. Not taking away from Meigs JV, but they only have a few players that are good against the level that they are playing, keep in mind that the Meigs JV was playing pretty much a Freshmen River Valley team last night.
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Re: Will Meigs win a game?
Alexander doesn't have front men and that's usually what kills Meigs, So I'm going with Meigs in theses games.Dundas wrote:Meigs will win a few games but @ Alex wont be one of them.
Meigs will at least beat Southern once.
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meigs_pride wrote:Alexander doesn't have front men and that's usually what kills Meigs, So I'm going with Meigs in theses games.Dundas wrote:Meigs will win a few games but @ Alex wont be one of them.
Meigs will at least beat Southern once.
I'm not a Southern fan but I will take some of that action on whatever you want to bet. Looking at the schedule these two teams only play once. One thing you count on every year is Meigs parents like you are going to blame the coach instead of their own kids. Yes the coaching may be bad but so is the play from the players. Take off the parent blinders, no wonder the players don't play well listening to their parents constantly blame and make excuses for the poor effort.
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Re: Will Meigs win a game?
meigs_pride,
I think they should fire the grammer teacher at meigs! what do you think?
I think they should fire the grammer teacher at meigs! what do you think?
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Yes some of the players do play bad, never said they didn't, but the coach is responsible for sitting those ones with the most mistakes and the most turnovers. I can't have parent blinders on when I don't have a child that plays. I have had one child play before Benny's tenure as Coach and I will have a child that will be playing in the next few years. So that theory of yours is way off.Fred G. Sanford wrote:meigs_pride wrote:Alexander doesn't have front men and that's usually what kills Meigs, So I'm going with Meigs in theses games.Dundas wrote:Meigs will win a few games but @ Alex wont be one of them.
Meigs will at least beat Southern once.
I'm not a Southern fan but I will take some of that action on whatever you want to bet. Looking at the schedule these two teams only play once. One thing you count on every year is Meigs parents like you are going to blame the coach instead of their own kids. Yes the coaching may be bad but so is the play from the players. Take off the parent blinders, no wonder the players don't play well listening to their parents constantly blame and make excuses for the poor effort.
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Re: Will Meigs win a game?
I am not going to get into the coaching because its easy to criticize when you havent walked in those shoes. I will say this, although they seem to be good kids that work fairly hard, anyone would be INSANE to claim that this is a talented group of basketball players. These kids would struggle under any coach. Well, any coaches other than coach krzyzewski and meigs pride.
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Re: Will Meigs win a game?
They have a few talented players but as a whole they arent very talented and arent very dicsiplined
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Okay, so your saying that meigs has no talented boys? How many talented kids does Eastern have? Meigs has way more talent on that court then Eastern does, however Eastern's new coach plays to his strength and most talented kid (Carnahan) and makes it work. They are at 3-0 right now because he has them working as a team. Benny has not created any team leadership, any team chemistry, he wants to criticize instead of encourage. He has half the boys playing like their on eggshells. They worry if they are going to make a mistake they will be pulled out. How can the boys focus mentally with that in their heads. Then you have the other half that knows even if they turn the ball over, they are still going to be left in to do it again.johnny ringo wrote:I am not going to get into the coaching because its easy to criticize when you havent walked in those shoes. I will say this, although they seem to be good kids that work fairly hard, anyone would be INSANE to claim that this is a talented group of basketball players. These kids would struggle under any coach. Well, any coaches other than coach krzyzewski and meigs pride.
You say these kids would struggle under any coach, when was the last year Meigs has had a winning season? They were 10-10 last year, but who was with the coaching staff? Coach Simpson was. Benny has no respect from the players, respect is earned.
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Re: Will Meigs win a game?
I agree with Meigs Pride on everything except the fact that Meigs has more talent than Eastern. I think Eastern has more talent than people give them credit for. Carnahan, Pullins, Cook, Parker- all very talented. Smith, Boyer, Williamson I think are Meigs most talented players.
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I didn't mean to make it sound like Eastern has no talent than they do, I was just trying to say that Easterns talent is utilized to it's strength in Carnahan. They all play like a team, especially on defense. Smith and Williamson are very talented. Williamson doesn't get enough playing time to really be recognized. Smith earns his points by pulling down the offensive rebounds. Why not work with that talent and get a play that gets the ball down low to Smith instead of passing around the perimeter 20 times. The way Benny coaches we can go down the court and Boyer could read the defense and drive the middle and score the bucket, but Benny will pull him out because he didn't run the play that he was supposed to run. At some point you have to rely on the boys on the court to take what the defense gives them instead of running a set play.Super Trooper wrote:I agree with Meigs Pride on everything except the fact that Meigs has more talent than Eastern. I think Eastern has more talent than people give them credit for. Carnahan, Pullins, Cook, Parker- all very talented. Smith, Boyer, Williamson I think are Meigs most talented players.