Basketball Situation at Green

[deweese3]

nobody got cut at eastern pike?

[friday_nite_fan]

With this kind of crap going on, Green will never find a permanent coach!!! Drama with a capital "D"!!!!! The parents in Franklin Furnace better back away and let the coaches coach or there won't be a basketball program...

[BeAWarrior]

With this kind of crap going on, Green will never find a permanent coach!!! Drama with a capital "D"!!!!! The parents in Franklin Furnace better back away and let the coaches coach or there won't be a basketball program...

Agreed!

[Charlie Kitchen 2]

Buckeyefan66,I think you could be the dillusional one in this matter thinking that your son should have been on the basketball team in which I am sure you are the mother or father of one of the kids I cut.Probably the mother because you were one of the people that made a total fool of themselves at the second board meeting .In a typed statement the board said it would back me til the end of the season,but did not agree with cutting the players.If cutting players was a problem for them why was this not addressed in the interview for the job.Seems like a board problem to me.As far as me using different names I don't need to hide behind anyone or anything.My cousin was jumper on this site and I have no control of what she said or thought.I did ask her to take a break but she is who she is.I'm here in the open so tell me who you are hiding behind a name.I'm sure the people of Green are glad I'm gone they have it back the way they wanted it Them making the decisions about the basketball program and not the coach.I have nothing else to post her about the matter.You the parents win so good luck.I'll be fine.

[hardhitter ll]

Did your elderly cousin teach you to not put spaces after punctuation marks? That looks too obvious to not be the same person.

[Howard Cosell]

One should have a better command of his own language especially if he wants to lead youth.

[allsport12]

Coach Kichen,

I am sorry you and your family went through this. I have paid attention to this situation from the start and have no dog in this fight whatsoever. I am 90 miles away. But, you have my respect. Stick to your guns. I would have also cut those players. Kudos to you Coach! I am sure there are many systems in the area looking for your kind of character and integrity.

[Tartanblue]

Did Coach Kitchens help West last year....YES, his style fit with them. The question is was that because he was only there half a year or was is something else....we will not know. However for the Green drama going on, we all know this was started when kids that were freshman were cut and was only made worse when the JV games had to be stopped for a few games. Lets face it, Coach Kitchens plans may work for a bigger school like West....Ironton....or a bigger D4 school. However he was not at one of them he was at Green, he should have looked at the school size and what could possibly happen in case kids got hurt with the few players he kept. No you can not plan on a couple kids quitting and you hope kids do not get hurt but you have to make sure that you have enough to make sure if that does happen you can continue with the JV team.

[friday_nite_fan]

Here's an idea for the these parents at Green who run the coach out, tell your kids to practice and get better so you won't have to worry about them getting cut. Come on people, wake up, how on God's green Earth can anyone blame a coach for cutting players???????????? It's his job to win games, not make parents and fans happy!!!

[Redsfan]

The situations with Coach Kitchen and the previous coach (Coach Hopper) are not even remotely related. Coach Hopper was not re-hired as the basketball coach because the BOE did not believe he won enough games with the talent he had. They didn't say he wasn't a good educator or a good man............he is still the principal! The last time I checked that is part of their job.

As for Kitchen, this whole mess started when he cut the JV players. Not when he cut the one player for disciplinary reasons. AND...........I am still convinced that he would still be coaching if he wouldn't have had to finish a JV game with 2 players! That's right, 2! How could you let this happen? You had to see it coming when you start the season with so few numbers. Everyone else did. He embarrased the entire school system. He made a very bad error in judgement. It's not like Green is a huge school. They are Div 4, and a small one at that. They cannot afford to cut players. Especially in the JV program (unless it is for disciplinary reasons). You can't cut of your nose to spite your face no matter what kind of message you are trying to send. You keep those kids on the team and teach them what hard work, team work and dedication is all about. That is how you build character!

So before you try to compare the last few years at Green and the last couple of coaches, do some research. I know the road has been bumpy the last couple of years, but it won't take much to correct it. There are too many good STUDENT athletes at Green!!

[Redsfan]

FNF,

How can you win games when you don't even have enough players to play? Did you even know they had to cancel games because they didn't have enough to play? The people at Green do realize a coach has to cut players...........when you have alot of kids try out. Why do you cut kids when you have more uniforms than number of players trying out? You're right the players do need to practice more and get better. SO........have them at practice so you can make sure they're doing it. Isn't that what a coach is for. If they don't like the hard work and dedication they won't play next year or they will quit. That is one way to weed out the players that aren't serious..........especially at an extremely small school that doesn't have the numbers.

[Redsfan]

tartanblue,

We must have been posting at the same time. My thoughts exactly!

[M0TIVAT0R]

Green will get a good coach if they want one. It amuses me when people say, "well who would want that job with all the trouble they are having?" The answer is, a lot of people. Coaches will apply for the job when it opens. I agree that cutting JV players is not a good idea unless you are cutting say from 20 or so down to 12 or 15. I have seen many JV teams with 12 or more players.

[Rufus]

Buckeyefan66,I think you could be the dillusional one in this matter thinking that your son should have been on the basketball team in which I am sure you are the mother or father of one of the kids I cut.Probably the mother because you were one of the people that made a total fool of themselves at the second board meeting .In a typed statement the board said it would back me til the end of the season,but did not agree with cutting the players.If cutting players was a problem for them why was this not addressed in the interview for the job.Seems like a board problem to me.As far as me using different names I don't need to hide behind anyone or anything.My cousin was jumper on this site and I have no control of what she said or thought.I did ask her to take a break but she is who she is.I'm here in the open so tell me who you are hiding behind a name.I'm sure the people of Green are glad I'm gone they have it back the way they wanted it Them making the decisions about the basketball program and not the coach.I have nothing else to post her about the matter.You the parents win so good luck.I'll be fine.

Were you Charlie Kitchen 1? lol.

[wemufans]

I think the minimum for a team is 10 if you have 10 and that is all that tries out then keep all 10. A middle school girls coach at SP not long ago cut when she only had 10 or so try out and only kept 7 or eight. The kids that were cut weren't great athletes but weren't trouble makers either. Let them know where they stand with playing time in close games. But that year SP only had 3-4 close games all season the rest were blowouts and those kids she cut would have been able to get some valualbe experience. Needless to say those kids never came out again! How sad!

For Charlie don't know you or really anyone from Green but you should have gotten out while the gettin was good. They are all nuts and parents should leave the parenting to the parents, and coaching to the coaches. Period! Good Luck in your next job. Maybe West will take you back! I hear they are missing you!

[WTIGER 80]

What a messed up situation, Green is not my first choice of where i would want to coach in the first place. Wherever this guy goes I am sure he will never forget his time there.

[BALLER1]

With all of this going on between the ex-Coach, Board, parents, they all lose sight on who is actually losing out, the Kids. Everyone gets so wrapped up in high school sports in this area and forget that it is kids that go out and play the games. It is the kids that attend the practice and tryouts, which parents arent there to see. Then when a coach does something, the parents complain without knowing all the facts. What kid is going to go home and tell their parents that they were lazy in practice, or skipped practice, but when disciplined, they wonder why with their parents, while they know all alone. I am unfamiliar with the Green situation, but I see it to many times from watching games. Parents are mad cause this kid is playing and this kid isnt, this kid is shooting and this kid isnt, and always blame the coach or someone else. Why cant parents just support their kid, team and program? You can tell the programs that have stuck with a coach through the tough times and gave them time to put in their program, cause those are the programs that win year in and year out!

Players for Green, keep your head up and go out and play hard every night! I hope everything gets better for you all!

[bluetraveler]

I can understand cutting a player(at any level)for disciplinary reasons,don't understand keeping so few players(6) to start with,who did they practice against?tartanblue- what does it say about the kids and parents at green when one must plan on a couple of kids quiting?One would think that if pre-season was rough enough the quitters would have given up by the start of real play, unless they are made to believe they are superstars by parents and quite because they don't think they are getting the playing time their skills deserve.Parents and board should support the coach at least publicly.Which by the way leads to my final point_DON"T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ IN THE PAPER! Most papers will only print the official statements,and know nothing about what goes on behind closed doors or said priviatly- read personel matters-until official statements are released.PDT I personally wouldn't take much stock in,in fact wouldn't believe if they ran a story about the flood wall being painted>if it doesn't come off the wire I doubt much investigation is being done.

[WestFan27]

Here's an idea for the these parents at Green who run the coach out, tell your kids to practice and get better so you won't have to worry about them getting cut. Come on people, wake up, how on God's green Earth can anyone blame a coach for cutting players???????????? It's his job to win games, not make parents and fans happy!!!

That's one of the best post on here.