Oak Hill @ Wheelersburg 2/10

[fbnut]

I don't really know but can oakhill fans inform us on how many of the kids playing for you last night were seniors.

First off I don't ever remember the burgs jv being very good. I only count 6 jrs on the varsity. One of those who is a captain and returning starter I beleive has not played 1 minute this yr. The burg starts 3 soph's and one of their first players off the bench is a freshman. Throw in the fact that Stegman is a soph and is arguably if not the best, certainly one of the best players in the area will return for 2 more yrs. I am guesing he is going to get a little bigger, stronger and overall just a little better which is kind of scary. I am guessing most people that see how young this burg team is and how well they have played and with the experience their gaining and with barrick at the helm I am guessing most people will disagree with you and recognize that the burg shoul be a force the next few yrs.

Like I said before, Burg doesn't impress me with their offense. They have alot of athletes playing basketball but only one basketball player. The JV are not showing any promise either. No height and they are getting beat almost every game. Barrick had to reach into the freshman class to give any skill to the varsity they were lacking. There are 7 juniors on the team this year and will be seniors next year. All the JV's will have to stay JV's next year which is not good if your a sophomore this year. Who wants to be on the JV team as a Junior? I don't think your looking at a replay of the 2007 year. Oak Hill and Valley are loaded for next year. Oak Hill was winning by 25 points when the subs came in and gave up 10 unanswered points or they could have won by 35 points, easily!

[MightyOaksFan]

The ones that get the most playing time are Hale and Borden, then coming off the bench is Cannon and Evans. I believe there are 3 others that are seniors as well.

[BALLER1]

From what I understand, after the count this year, Oak Hill will move back down to Div. 3. This is what I heard, not for sure, can any OH people let me know for sure. If so, Div. 3 tournament just gets a lot better and deeper.

[bleed_blue]

Not on here to question Barrick as I know he is one of the best coaches in this areas history, and I know he wanted to keep Stegman out of foul trouble but once he seen Hale was not going to be stopped by anyone else,ecspecially after it was 10-2,I think you have to take your chances and let Stegman guard him.JMO

Here's the thing with that. If Andy gets in foul trouble early you lose any offense that Wheelersburg has and the only way Wheelersburg stayed as close as they did at half was because of Andy. It's one of those thing you take your chances on. If you watched everytime Hale got the ball at least three guys were helping on him. The better team won.This Wheelersburg team would probably beat This Oak Hill team maybe 1 out of 20 times. Wheelersburg doesnt have any shooters. If Wheelersburg has a shooter that will knock down some shots Oak Hill will be forced to come out of there zone opening the floor up for Wheelersburg but if "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts everyday would be Christmas.

[beaverlover]

I see #14 for Burg getting more playing time down the stretch and in the tourney because the Pirates are in desparate need of an outside shooter.I have seen Burg 3 times this year and he is the best outside shooter on the team.He could really help them in tourney play.

[bleed_blue]

I see #14 for Burg getting more playing time down the stretch and in the tourney because the Pirates are in desparate need of an outside shooter.I have seen Burg 3 times this year and he is the best outside shooter on the team.He could really help them in tourney play.

Yea he can shot he was shooting like 48% or 49% from beyond the arch earlier in the year. He's a freshman and sometimes the pressure gets to him.

[marshallman]

I don't really know but can oakhill fans inform us on how many of the kids playing for you last night were seniors.

First off I don't ever remember the burgs jv being very good. I only count 6 jrs on the varsity. One of those who is a captain and returning starter I beleive has not played 1 minute this yr. The burg starts 3 soph's and one of their first players off the bench is a freshman. Throw in the fact that Stegman is a soph and is arguably if not the best, certainly one of the best players in the area will return for 2 more yrs. I am guesing he is going to get a little bigger, stronger and overall just a little better which is kind of scary. I am guessing most people that see how young this burg team is and how well they have played and with the experience their gaining and with barrick at the helm I am guessing most people will disagree with you and recognize that the burg shoul be a force the next few yrs.

Like I said before, Burg doesn't impress me with their offense. They have alot of athletes playing basketball but only one basketball player. The JV are not showing any promise either. No height and they are getting beat almost every game. Barrick had to reach into the freshman class to give any skill to the varsity they were lacking. There are 7 juniors on the team this year and will be seniors next year. All the JV's will have to stay JV's next year which is not good if your a sophomore this year. Who wants to be on the JV team as a Junior? I don't think your looking at a replay of the 2007 year. Oak Hill and Valley are loaded for next year. Oak Hill was winning by 25 points when the subs came in and gave up 10 unanswered points or they could have won by 35 points, easily!

I'm just saying there are other schools that will be a force as well. Burg does not shoot the ball that well, period. Just because they return everybody doesn't mean they will go 20-0. I say the struggle next year too. They have 1 pure shooter. 2007 team had 4 with height to go with it.

[bleed_blue]

Like I said before, Burg doesn't impress me with their offense. They have alot of athletes playing basketball but only one basketball player. The JV are not showing any promise either. No height and they are getting beat almost every game. Barrick had to reach into the freshman class to give any skill to the varsity they were lacking. There are 7 juniors on the team this year and will be seniors next year. All the JV's will have to stay JV's next year which is not good if your a sophomore this year. Who wants to be on the JV team as a Junior? I don't think your looking at a replay of the 2007 year. Oak Hill and Valley are loaded for next year. Oak Hill was winning by 25 points when the subs came in and gave up 10 unanswered points or they could have won by 35 points, easily!

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I'm just saying there are other schools that will be a force as well. Burg does not shoot the ball that well, period. Just because they return everybody doesn't mean they will go 20-0. I say the struggle next year too. They have 1 pure shooter. 2007 team had 4 with height to go with it.[/quote]

They will be better next year. You have to look they will gain lang back who can shoot pretty well plus these guys are going to get better as time passes this year.

[marshallman]

Like I said before, Burg doesn't impress me with their offense. They have alot of athletes playing basketball but only one basketball player. The JV are not showing any promise either. No height and they are getting beat almost every game. Barrick had to reach into the freshman class to give any skill to the varsity they were lacking. There are 7 juniors on the team this year and will be seniors next year. All the JV's will have to stay JV's next year which is not good if your a sophomore this year. Who wants to be on the JV team as a Junior? I don't think your looking at a replay of the 2007 year. Oak Hill and Valley are loaded for next year. Oak Hill was winning by 25 points when the subs came in and gave up 10 unanswered points or they could have won by 35 points, easily!

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I'm just saying there are other schools that will be a force as well. Burg does not shoot the ball that well, period. Just because they return everybody doesn't mean they will go 20-0. I say the struggle next year too. They have 1 pure shooter. 2007 team had 4 with height to go with it.[/quote]

They will be better next year. You have to look they will gain lang back who can shoot pretty well plus these guys are going to get better as time passes this year.[/quote]

Do you really think they have gotten better these last five games. Their point production is in the 20s and 30s and some 40s. I believe any tall team will dominate. All schools can put 6-0 tall, fast athletes on the floor but how many can start 6-4, 6-5, 6-7 like they did in 2006, 07. This is what separates the great teams from the rest of the pack. Thats why I see Burg with the rest of the SOC next year fighting it out but not dominating it like in the past.

[bleed_blue]

Do you really think they have gotten better these last five games. Their point production is in the 20s and 30s and some 40s. I believe any tall team will dominate. All schools can put 6-0 tall, fast athletes on the floor but how many can start 6-4, 6-5, 6-7 like they did in 2006, 07. This is what separates the great teams from the rest of the pack. Thats why I see Burg with the rest of the SOC next year fighting it out but not dominating it like in the past.[/quote]

Yea it will be a dog fight but the differnce one shooter is going to make will be huge. Teams already have a hard time stopping Andy.It's not hard for a team to average point totals in the 30s and 4os when all a team has to do is focus on one player and not having to defend the three. Like last night if Wheelersburg has any kind of shooter it forces Oak Hill to come out of their zone opening the floor up. Lang can shot the ball pretty well. The Whitley kid can shot well to but he's kinda shy with the ball. They will be better next year.

[Burg_Grad_77]

First off Marshallman, I haven't seen one post on here by anybody saying the Pirates will go 20-0 next season or anytime in the near future, so where are you coming up with that. The Burg will be better next year whether you want to admit it or not. They don't lose a player off of a team that has undoubtably overachieved this season. With Lang out and the varsity experience returning I didn't expect more than 12 or 13 wins, and they may still only get that many, but they have a chance to go 15-5 and I think that is pretty darn good for being as young as they are and playing in a very well balanced SOC II this season.

Secondly, I think your problem is that you are just pissed that the Pirates beat Minford twice in football and twice in basketball this year. Get used to it. It will probably happen again next season as well.

[yabbadabbadoo]

Like I said before, Burg doesn't impress me with their offense. They have alot of athletes playing basketball but only one basketball player. The JV are not showing any promise either. No height and they are getting beat almost every game. Barrick had to reach into the freshman class to give any skill to the varsity they were lacking. There are 7 juniors on the team this year and will be seniors next year. All the JV's will have to stay JV's next year which is not good if your a sophomore this year. Who wants to be on the JV team as a Junior? I don't think your looking at a replay of the 2007 year. Oak Hill and Valley are loaded for next year. Oak Hill was winning by 25 points when the subs came in and gave up 10 unanswered points or they could have won by 35 points, easily!

I'm just saying there are other schools that will be a force as well. Burg does not shoot the ball that well, period. Just because they return everybody doesn't mean they will go 20-0. I say the struggle next year too. They have 1 pure shooter. 2007 team had 4 with height to go with it.[/quote]

They will be better next year. You have to look they will gain lang back who can shoot pretty well plus these guys are going to get better as time passes this year.[/quote]

Do you really think they have gotten better these last five games. Their point production is in the 20s and 30s and some 40s. I believe any tall team will dominate. All schools can put 6-0 tall, fast athletes on the floor but how many can start 6-4, 6-5, 6-7 like they did in 2006, 07. This is what separates the great teams from the rest of the pack. Thats why I see Burg with the rest of the SOC next year fighting it out but not dominating it like in the past.[/quote]


Let me guess, you can see into the future because how do you know that the Burg won't have that size in the next few years. I'd venture to guess that Stegman is not done growing and I think someone told me that Whitley's dad was around 6'3"-6'4", so he has the potential to get bigger. Andy Sloan, who is a hoss now, with a little work will be a force under the basket. I have to applaud his hustle out on the court. If there is a loose ball around, look out because he will be diving for it.

It is hard to tell right now because they are so young on their growth. I can assure you this that if this years team has the height like they did in '06 and '07 then all I can say is I feel sorry for the rest of the league and the Southeastern district because they will be a handful.

[fbnut]

you could probably make the argument that last yrs team only had 1 real shooter and a bunch of athletes as well and they turned in a pretty good season. I think oakhill and valley both loose a few seniors that contribute quite a bit to their teams. Anyone know how many teams in the area that do not have any seniors.

[marshallman]

First off Marshallman, I haven't seen one post on here by anybody saying the Pirates will go 20-0 next season or anytime in the near future, so where are you coming up with that. The Burg will be better next year whether you want to admit it or not. They don't lose a player off of a team that has undoubtably overachieved this season. With Lang out and the varsity experience returning I didn't expect more than 12 or 13 wins, and they may still only get that many, but they have a chance to go 15-5 and I think that is pretty darn good for being as young as they are and playing in a very well balanced SOC II this season.

Seconfly, I think your problem is that you are just pissed that the Pirates beat Minford twice in football and twice in basketball this year. Get used to it. It will probably happen again next season as well.

LOL! and your pissed because burg didn't win the SOC in football or basketball this year and probably won't again next year. There is talent coming up all around the SOC, Minford included, you don't dominate the SOC like in the past and everyone is catching up in talent. Get use to it. I'm saying the basketball won't win more next year than this year based on what I have seen, it's called an opinion, everyone has one.

[Burg_Grad_77]

First off Marshallman, I haven't seen one post on here by anybody saying the Pirates will go 20-0 next season or anytime in the near future, so where are you coming up with that. The Burg will be better next year whether you want to admit it or not. They don't lose a player off of a team that has undoubtably overachieved this season. With Lang out and the varsity experience returning I didn't expect more than 12 or 13 wins, and they may still only get that many, but they have a chance to go 15-5 and I think that is pretty darn good for being as young as they are and playing in a very well balanced SOC II this season.

Secondly, I think your problem is that you are just pissed that the Pirates beat Minford twice in football and twice in basketball this year. Get used to it. It will probably happen again next season as well.

LOL! and your pissed because burg didn't win the SOC in football or basketball this year and probably won't again next year. There is talent coming up all around the SOC, Minford included, you don't dominate the SOC like in the past and everyone is catching up in talent. Get use to it. I'm saying the basketball won't win more next year than this year based on what I have seen, it's called an opinion, everyone has one.

Why would I be pissed that they didn't win the SOC in football or basketball when it was obvious that they would be young and inexperienced in both? I knew going into to this year in both sports that the Pirates would struggle and the football team way overachieved for their youth and losing their captain. I don't get pissed when the Pirates don't win the SOC. We have won enough in the past 35 years that giving one up to another school every 10 years or so doesn't bother me.

By the way, if you look at the years below you will see the Pirates have won the SOC 4 times in football in this decade and 6 times in basketball in this decade, so it seems to me they are still the dominant team in the league. How many has Minford won?

SOC Championships for the Pirates in the three major boys sports.

Baseball 53, 54, 57, 65, 66, 67, 69, 72, 74, 83, 92, 96, 97, 98, 99, 00, 01, 08

Football 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 78, 79, 80, 81, 83, 86, 87, 88, 89, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 03, 04, 05, 07


Boys' Basketball 49, 55, 72, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 87, 88, 90, 94, 96, 97, 99, 00, 01, 02, 04, 07, 08

[Jumpshot]

Didn't the burg win the basketball co-soc championship with sw during 05? That would have been Tommy Kaskey's senior year. Carrington was a jurnior. Miller, Cowgill, and Salyers were sophomores, and Spradlin was a freshman. ??? They lost at the convo in the last minute, but I may be wrong.

[crazymidgets]

I believe waverly went back to back 05-06

[Burg_Grad_77]

South Webster won it in either '05 or '06.

[jeep80]

South Webster won it in either '05 or '06.

South Webster won it in 06. They beat Minford for the outright title before Wheelersburg put it to them at Wheelersburg to end the season. A game, by the way, in which I credit as the catylist in the Jeeps march to the title. A wake up call that was needed. I always say that Wheelersburg should get credit for half of the title.

[lady_oaks_fan3362]

When J.D. Hale scored his 1000'th point they didnt stop play because burg has no respect for Oak Hill

In all fairness to Burg, I believe Coach Persin doesn't want individual acclaim. He wants TEAM all the way. Congrats to JD on a great accomplishment and I am sure the win over Burg was just as satisfying as the 1000 points.