Portsmouth vs Chesapeake Regional semifinal

[wipala]

Now, this is what High School sports is all about..playing your, IMO, biggest Rival for a trip
to State...WOW, Does not get any better than this. I will be rooting for the Trojans, but
however this games ends BOTH teams have had a great season and memories that will
last you a life time..I know also that whichever team wins the other team will be rooting
for the other team to bring the hardware to Southern Ohio
Wipalawalt
Sure wish I was at the Convo>>>

[Blackcobra]

McMaster can't handle McKinley. McMaster is not as athletic in the long haul. Great player, just out muscled. McMaster to Rio, McKinley should go to UC. Portsmouth by 9

What? UC?? Are you kidding? At his size he is a guard at UC and no way does he have the handles or shooting skills to play D1!

OK Sorry I may have overshot that. Maybe NKU Middle Tennessee State, Marshall, OU, Indiana State ETC. I can teach a natural Athlete to Shoot and Dribble, I cant teach a shooter to be a natural athlete( size and shape matters).

Ehat did I tell ya?

[Hopper 11]

Wow I can't believe some of you Chesapeake fans bashing a coach that in the last three years has had your team to a state final four, a regional championship and a regional appearance. peake, Norm as great of coach as he is didn't make it to the state in D3. Oak Hill hasn't really had any tournament success since going back up to D3. Yes Chesapeake has had some talented teams the last few years but Portsmouth and Ironton have been loaded with talent as well. Most schools would love to have the success Chesapeake has had since Davis took over. Enjoy it instead of complaining about it.

[Peake]

I am not complaining, and again there have been lots of coaches who go to state and then do nothing the rest of their career. I am not taking anything away from Davis, and I said he was a good coach, but the talent at Chesapeake has been very good the past 3-4 years, I am interested to see if the consistency continues.

I don't care what division Norm coaches in, he won a state title, and him winning D4 v D3 means nothing to me. South Webster won a state title in d4, it's not like their title was any less worthy then Chilli's in d2. Norm also went to what 6 or so regional finals at Chesapeake and 10 or 11 regionals, this is not our first experience with multiple regionals.

2000-Regional Semi
2002-Regional Semi
2003-Regional Finals (lost to belpre by 3, a team that featured an NFL QB and a D1 center).
2004-Regional Semi (lost to Iroton who lost in the state finals).
2005-Regional Semi

No offense to Ironton but they were loaded with very young talent when Chesapeake went to state. Carter was what a Freshmen? Portsmouth were mostly sophomores.

[fightingtigers45]

That was Bellaire in 2003, featuring Nate Davis and Aaron Agnew.

And yes. Carter and Fletcher were freshmen. District POY Timmy Kochendoerfer was a senior that year.

[fightingtigers45]

Also...your years are barely off.

04 loss was Bellaire.
05 loss was Ironton.

[Hopper 11]

peake are you grading all coaches on how they do when the talent is gone or just Davis? I think anyone knows you need both good players and coaching. By your grading system there wouldn't be any good coaches.

[Peake]

ft45,

Thank you for the correction. I don't know why I said Belpre instead of Bellaire. Nate Davis and Agnew were just beasts, yet we missed a shot that went down and rolled out at the buzzer to send it to OT.

2000-2001 Regional Semi
2001-2002 District Finals
2002-2003 Regional Semi
2003-20004 Regional Finals
2004-2005 Regional Semi
2005-2006 Regional Semi

That's how I was looking at it. So 04-05 season was Ironton, so technically we are both correct.

I am not grading anything. I said it will be interesting. It is easy to be successful when you have a lot of talent. Name the d1 kids Norm coaches at Chesapeake, I can name two Thacker and Edwards. The rest were a bunch of NAIA and D3 kids. Chesapeake under Norm wasn't always loaded with talent and he still found ways to win. The 1998 team that lost in the regional finals in OT to Sparta Highland had 1 player over 6'3 and he was our PG. Our program is what it is because of Norm...period. Coach Davis has done an excellent job continuing that tradition, but it was established a very long time ago. Like I have said previously, getting to state doesn't impress me more then 20 years of nearly winning 20 games a year, 10-11 regional appearances, 11 straight OVC titles and the 17 out of 21 OVC titles Norm was here.

So to answer Hoppers question, I understand there are years when you just don't have the horses. This is why I say it will be interesting to see how consistent we stay. That is one thing you could expect year in and year out under Norm, 9 years out of 10 we were going to be very good. I think consistency is a staple of a great program. In 20 years from now if Davis has accomplished what Norm did or achieved more I will certainly give credit where it is due. So far coach Davis has been very good at Chesapeake.

[Jesco White]

I believed before the game that Portsmouth was going to be too physical for Peake. I felt (and posted as much) that Peake's starting 5 were as talented as any in the SE District, but I just didn't think they could match up with the defensive intensity and physicality that Portsmouth plays with. At the same time, I was a little curious if the Peake would be able to take advantage of McKinley defensively by forcing him to guard someone with length who could also handle the ball away from the hoop facing the basket. McKinley is a beast in the paint, but I think opposing teams can have success if they have an athletic big man/big men......i.e. Valley posed that type of match-up. I really loved the Panthers length & athleticism as well as their ability to score the basketball. However, I questioned if they could withstand Portsmouth's defensive presence well enough to be effective scoring the ball from all 5 spots the way they had all season long. I think the end result of the Portsmouth victory over Peake, makes me feel that much stronger about the way the Trojans play defense. It also excites me as a guy who loves the game of basketball, for the round 3 rubber-match of Portsmouth vs Ironton for all the marbles in the Region for a birth to the D-3 Final Four!!! Both teams have size, strength/physicality, speed, playmakers, coaching, experience, supreme familiarity with the other..........what more do you need as a hoops fan? Personally, as a Valley fan, if my beloved Indians couldn't be here, then this upcoming match-up is the one I wanted to see!!

As far as the discussion on-going about coaching, I see what peake is saying. I think Davis has done a very good job at Chesapeake! Coaching talent isn't so easy that it does itself! You have to provide just as much effort with talent, as without...it's just a different type. At the same time, I also agree 100% that Norm Persin built that program by being the STANDARD of consistency in this area over approximately 20 years. There's nothing wrong with reserving final judgment on the job Davis has done until his tenure is up and nothing wrong with comparing it to Persin's tenure. Competition is what SHOULD drive us all in athletics. Otherwise, you shouldn't be involved! That being the case, having a legend to chase down (hypothetically) can be a great thing, as long as it is kept in perspective and not the only criteria. Personally, I envy both the job that Davis has done and the work that lay in front of him. Congrats, coach and good luck in the future!!

[Peake]

well said sir

[Just My Opinion]

Wow I can't believe some of you Chesapeake fans bashing a coach that in the last three years has had your team to a state final four, a regional championship and a regional appearance. peake, Norm as great of coach as he is didn't make it to the state in D3. Oak Hill hasn't really had any tournament success since going back up to D3. Yes Chesapeake has had some talented teams the last few years but Portsmouth and Ironton have been loaded with talent as well. Most schools would love to have the success Chesapeake has had since Davis took over. Enjoy it instead of complaining about it.

Hooper 11- I am not bashing Coach Davis, I just don't understand how a coach can go the whole game without making adjustments needed to stop the guy from driving down the middle of the lane and either having a wide open lay-up or dishing it off for an easy two, especially when they did the samething to you last year. If you would read my earlier posts I said that Coach Davis is a good coach, and I also said that an excellent coach knows when to swallow their pride, and drop back to a zone. I guess when you have a program like Chesapeake has had for the last 24 years you just expect nothing less.

[Hopper 11]

Wow I can't believe some of you Chesapeake fans bashing a coach that in the last three years has had your team to a state final four, a regional championship and a regional appearance. peake, Norm as great of coach as he is didn't make it to the state in D3. Oak Hill hasn't really had any tournament success since going back up to D3. Yes Chesapeake has had some talented teams the last few years but Portsmouth and Ironton have been loaded with talent as well. Most schools would love to have the success Chesapeake has had since Davis took over. Enjoy it instead of complaining about it.

Hooper 11- I am not bashing Coach Davis, I just don't understand how a coach can go the whole game without making adjustments needed to stop the guy from driving down the middle of the lane and either having a wide open lay-up or dishing it off for an easy two, especially when they did the samething to you last year. If you would read my earlier posts I said that Coach Davis is a good coach, and I also said that an excellent coach knows when to swallow their pride, and drop back to a zone. I guess when you have a program like Chesapeake has had for the last 24 years you just expect nothing less.

What kind of program did you have before Davis took over after Norm left? If you want to bring up the last 24 years, how many times did you make it out of the regionals in those 24 years? So your statement of expecting nothing less really doesn't make sense. peake you saying getting to the state doesn't impress you as much as twenty years of winning tells me you never played on a team that made it to the state. Getting to the state impresses me more every year after I watch how hard it is to get there especially for SEO teams. Someone will lose the Portsmouth vs Ironton game but both are great teams and have good coaching. Your team doesn't make it that far without good players and coaching.I have always enjoyed watching Chesapeake over the last few years. They get after it on defense and get the ball up and down the floor. Chesapeake had a great season let the players and coaches enjoy it, they worked hard for it.

[TrojanBuff]

Article in today's Portsmouth Daily Times:

During Saturday’s Division III Southeast District Final between Portsmouth and Valley high schools at the Convocation Center in Athens, Ohio, the crowd was heard chanting “ribs and chicken” at Portsmouth’s black players on the court. The crowd was also heard shouting “STD,” and “You can’t read” at Portsmouth players, and shouting “You suck” at Valley players.

Read more: Portsmouth Daily Times - Realities of racism Coaches players dealing with racism in high school sports

http://www.portsmouth-dailytimes.com/pa ... op_stories

What a shame. What a shame. What a shame.

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Another article on the same topic:

http://www.portsmouth-dailytimes.com/vi ... t-the-door?

[Jesco White]

Article in today's Portsmouth Daily Times:

During Saturday’s Division III Southeast District Final between Portsmouth and Valley high schools at the Convocation Center in Athens, Ohio, the crowd was heard chanting “ribs and chicken” at Portsmouth’s black players on the court. The crowd was also heard shouting “STD,” and “You can’t read” at Portsmouth players, and shouting “You suck” at Valley players.

Read more: Portsmouth Daily Times - Realities of racism Coaches players dealing with racism in high school sports

http://www.portsmouth-dailytimes.com/pa ... op_stories

What a shame. What a shame. What a shame.

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Another article on the same topic:


http://www.portsmouth-dailytimes.com/vi ... t-the-door?

Definitely an interesting read. Very terrible behavior! I hope those guilty of all such behavior are punished

[Native Warrior]

Portsmouth over Chesapeake...SWEET !

[14U]

Native Warrior, Portsmouth always beats Peake when it counts!! Tournament Time.