DII Logan Sectional

[bman]

Washington Court House had a cold night from the field. Typically much better shooting wise. I'd say one of the top seeds from the other sectional is a quality win. As for Circleville vs. Athens and Circleville vs. WCH, teams match up differently against each other. We'll also know a bit more about WCH when they play No. 7 DIII Ready this weekend.

[93Bulldog]

I don't know bman ... losing to Circleville by 13 and Logan Elm by almost 30 tells me a lot about the Blue Lions already ...

Bloom-Carroll defeating Hartley sure does stir up the pot, however ... lol

On one hand I love this sectional and all the information we get to digest ... on the other, I absolutely hate it!

[Raider6309]

Looks like Logan elm is locked in number 1 seed, the tournament will show who's number 1

[bman]

If Court House beats a solid Ready team that probably restores what was thought of them before the loss to Circleville. Now if they lose three or four in a row, yeah that's going to kill the quality win for Logan Elm.

Court House is playing a pretty tough non-conference schedule with DeSales, Ready, Logan Elm, Circleville and Xenia. Sometimes you don't have it and take a lump. Heck, that even happens against teams one should beat - look at Athens against Wellston last year. Logan Elm has struggled on a few occasions with Hamilton Township and Fairfield Union over the past few years.

[93Bulldog]

Losing by 29 I'm not sure qualifies as 'not having it' ... that's just a beat down ... Had Logan Elm beat C.H. by 5, 10 or even 13 like Circleville did, then yea, it's understandable.

[bman]

Raider6309, Athens is a tough matchup for anyone in the district with its length and athleticism, and Burrow and Watson are a load. Warren may have the best player in the district in French, along with some other solid contributors. Logan Elm plays very well when it plays hard defense and hits its shots, and Dillon Young is having a fantastic season for them. Then we can't discount Sheridan as well in the Logan sectional.

In the other sectional, Minford has only suffered one loss after the Huntington Prep All-Stars beat them. Court House and Circleville can shoot very well from the perimeter. Then you have an athletic Miami Trace team and a Unioto ballclub with a good balance of size and guard play that like to get it up-and-down the floor.

When you enter one-and-done season, a lot is possible.

[bman]

The LE-WCH game was 10-14 most of the way. LE put on a big run at the end to make it look that bad. Like I said, let's see how they finish going into the draw. If WCH goes in at 12-6 it's not going to look nearly as strong of a win as it did last week for LE. If they go in at 15-3 or 14-4, that's at least a good win, if not a quality win.

[WarriorBlue]

Logan Elm has defeated Athens, Washington Court House, Circleville, Bloom-Carroll and Teays Valley, which have a combined record of 54-17. Then add in the Florida Tournament and a game with Zane Trace up ahead. Yep, no strength of schedule. :122249

The teams on LE schedule are winning at a .510 clip while Warren and Athens opponents are playing at a .570 winning percentage. You can't just cherry pick the part of the schedule that favors your situation. SOS should encompass the entire schedule to date.
If Warren can pull off the hat trick of FCA, Athens and Fort Frye the decision should be a done deal. Add going to Portsmouth and winning gives the Warriors an impressive late season resume that'll be hard to match.


GO BIG BAD BLUE!

[93Bulldog]

If Warren can pull off the hat trick of FCA, Athens and Fort Frye the decision should be a done deal.


GO BIG BAD BLUE!

Hey, 2-out-of-3 isn't bad ... Feel free to hang your heads high WarriorBlue, falling just short of completing a hat trick that difficult is something to be proud of ... lol

ROLL TRAIN ROLL

[bman]

Warren only has to play eight conference games and Athens 10. Logan Elm has to be committed to play 14. Yes, Amanda and Hamilton Township are struggling quite a bit this season in the league, as is Westfall, which is a county rivalry that goes back to when they were both part of the SVC many moons past. The rest of LE's schedule is pretty solid. So you are basically picking on five of 22 games or seven of 22 if you want to include Fairfield Union - six of which, if you include FU, that LE has no control over.

Warren can go schedule FCA and FF twice each and pump up their winning percentage because of the schedule flexibility.

When you look at Logan Elm's and Warren's quality wins, they are pretty similar, and Logan Elm has a better overall record.

[93Bulldog]

When you look at Logan Elm's and Warren's quality wins, they are pretty similar, and Logan Elm has a better overall record.

If Logan Elm played Watterson and Wheeling Park - they would have the same number of losses, same record as Warren ...

I've looked over LE's schedule and quality wins and I'm not sure they are similar at all ... A 1-point win over Athens early in the year is the only game that stands out.

When you dig into Warren's schedule and see they play Watterson, Portsmouth, Portsmouth, Hartley, Valley, Wheeling Park, F.C.A, F.C.A, Fort Frye, Fort Frye, Athens ... it's head and shoulders above the Braves 22-game schedule.

I understand they are locked into league games, but that doesn't mean anything when it comes to voting/seeding.

[Raider6309]

The discussion starts if warren or Athens beats the other by 10 plus points. If Athens played at Logan elm tonight and u had to bet, no one would pick Logan elm.

[Dundas]

Athens has to get by an improved VC team tomorrow night before they even think about the 1 seed. VC NEEDS to keep it close if they want a shot at the 4/5 seed and a shot at a winnable first round game. A Viking win against the bulldogs would all but guarantee the 4/5 spot. Huge match up for both teams in terms of the Logan Sectional AND the TVC Ohio.

[93Bulldog]

The discussion starts if warren or Athens beats the other by 10 plus points. If Athens played at Logan elm tonight and u had to bet, no one would pick Logan elm.

At Logan Elm? I'm sure some folks would take that bet.

The same group of players from LE and Athens have played twice (once last year at LE - and again this year) ... Both games went right down to the wire and a 3rd game would probably be no different.

[bman]

And you could be quite right that LE loses to both Watterson and Wheeling Park. I say definitely in the former. I don't know much about Park, so I won't comment on that. But Warren could've lost to Liberty Christian, whom LE lost to as well. Or LE could've lost to the team Athens lost to in the Florida tourney or Athens could've lost to the team LE lost to at Florida. We can go on all day about what ifs until we are blue in the face.

[Raider6309]

And you could be quite right that LE loses to both Watterson and Wheeling Park. I say definitely in the former. I don't know much about Park, so I won't comment on that. But Warren could've lost to Liberty Christian, whom LE lost to as well. Or LE could've lost to the team Athens lost to in the Florida tourney or Athens could've lost to the team LE lost to at Florida. We can go on all day about what ifs until we are blue in the face.

Portsmouth beat liberty Christian by 15

[danicalifornia]

And you could be quite right that LE loses to both Watterson and Wheeling Park. I say definitely in the former. I don't know much about Park, so I won't comment on that. But Warren could've lost to Liberty Christian, whom LE lost to as well. Or LE could've lost to the team Athens lost to in the Florida tourney or Athens could've lost to the team LE lost to at Florida. We can go on all day about what ifs until we are blue in the face.

Portsmouth beat liberty Christian by 15

Portsmouth also lost by 15 to South Point.

[WarriorBlue]

Warren can go schedule FCA and FF twice each and pump up their winning percentage because of the schedule flexibility.

If you think scheduling Fort Frye is Warren "pumping up" their winning percentage, Then you don't know much at all! Fort Frye is a quality basketball team that has a great shot at being the East District DIII Champs. They would give ANY team in the SE district all they want and then some.

At the end of the day it ALWAYS comes down to "what have you done lately". No matter if you like it or not a 1 point win in early December over Athens isn't nearly as impressive as wins the last week of Janurary over Portsmouth, FCA, Fort Frye and Athens.
Just the facts my friend just the facts.


GO BIG BAD BLUE!

[bman]

Pump is a reference to raising Warren's winning percentage, not a reference on the quality of FF and/or FCA. Don't be so touchy :122249 . I listed FF and FCA as quality wins in a previous post.

Warren is a very solid team, so is Athens and so is Logan Elm.

[LetsGoPSU]

don't think anyone would question the competition that Warren has had in front of them all season