What time will the Feb 9. Zanesville-Chillicothe rematch tip

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Zanes/Chilli

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I have absolutley no problem with Chillicothe beating Zanesville 3 times. Great games, very high caliber high school games. Since this is my last post on here, all I can say is, 2 fans ejected from chillicothe, cheerleader taunting the zanesville fans while on the court celibrating, and star player trash talking, pushing and shoving....very classy program!


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tropicalbreeze wrote:I have absolutley no problem with Chillicothe beating Zanesville 3 times. Great games, very high caliber high school games. Since this is my last post on here, all I can say is, 2 fans ejected from chillicothe, cheerleader taunting the zanesville fans while on the court celibrating, and star player trash talking, pushing and shoving....very classy program!


Well sounds to me that there is Sour Grapes here :!: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


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OK Fans, lets all get along. Yes CHilly did beat Zanesville, Zanesville gave up a big lead. BLAH,Blah,Blah. The thing is to me people saying it sound like sour grapes, others saying Chilly has no class. All i know is both teams displayed signs of not being the best they can be. Take it for what it is. PEOPLE this not the game to end all games. Each team has to get ready for the playoffs. I wish both teams well. But remember one thing in every gam you play. TO be champions you have to act like champions!


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Chillicother vs. Zanesville

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Chilly fans need to check out the Zanesville Times Recorder website to see what one of their sportswriters thinks of the Chillicothe program and most notably there star player. :-D


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Re: Zanes/Chilli

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tropicalbreeze wrote:I have absolutley no problem with Chillicothe beating Zanesville 3 times. Great games, very high caliber high school games. Since this is my last post on here, all I can say is, 2 fans ejected from chillicothe, cheerleader taunting the zanesville fans while on the court celibrating, and star player trash talking, pushing and shoving....very classy program!
Sounds like someones bitter


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some posters just keep adding fuel to the fire. Obviously someone who was not at the game or has no interest in either team.


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Chilly

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You are right....not at the game, no interest in either team ..... adding fuel to the fire....... it seems to me like the sportswriter was doing that.....


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Re: Chillicother vs. Zanesville

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gunit wrote:Chilly fans need to check out the Zanesville Times Recorder website to see what one of their sportswriters thinks of the Chillicothe program and most notably there star player. :-D


Here is the article. I have no say on anything that is written in here and I think both teams are great squads with good fan bases. However, I would like to say one thing...they way the Zanesville cheering section acted after the game was over was the best display of sportsmanship I have ever seen. They could have walked out the door right away, they could have just quietly sulked, they could have gone after the Chilly fans and fought with them because they were celebrating on the middle of their court, but instead they chanted their normal cheer (I forget what it is) and supported their team.

Blackburn: Win or lose, ZHS is class act
By SAM BLACKBURN
Staff Writer

In the grand scheme, little was lost when Zanesville dropped a third straight game to Chillicothe, except for a lot of Blue and White pride.

The Blue Devils still earned a top five seed at the Division I tournament draw in Columbus Sunday, and they will likely get another crack at the Cavaliers in the Southeast Ohio Athletic League's Day of Champions on Feb. 9.

And unlike last year, Zanesville won't see the talented Cavs and All-Ohio guard Anthony Hitchens in the tournament, since they're still in Division II.
But make no mistake, this loss will sting for a while.

Played in front of a near-capacity crowd at Winland Memorial Gymnasium, Friday's game was more personal than anything. The loss hurt enough, but the way it took place - and who it was against - was even more rankling.

Zanesville teams simply don't blow double-digit leads in the fourth quarter, but the Blue Devils nearly did it in less than three minutes - against perhaps its most hated opponent.

"It's about respect for the guys that have played here in the past, especially in the situation where you're plus-11 in the fourth quarter - that's Blue Devil basketball," Zanesville coach Scott Aronhalt said. "That game should have been an 11-15-point game but we weren't good at all on offense in the fourth quarter."

It's one thing to self-destruct in the fourth quarter; it's another to do it against the team that gets under your skin the most. As Aronhalt bluntly put it, "it didn't look like Blue Devil basketball."

There is an unquestioned level of angst directed toward Chillicothe's team and fans from within Zanesville's program, which in all due respect, has been playing at an elite level in basketball much longer than the Cavs.

And it all starts with Hitchens, whose flaunting, preening and showboating strike the nerves of every Zanesville player, coach and fan who watches him. His conduct on the court is borderline inexcusable by many coaches' standards.

Hitchens may be a great kid off the floor. He's getting a full ride to Akron, so he must be doing something productive during his time away from basketball.

But his on-court demeanor is everything that Zanesville basketball isn't - flamboyant, brash and self-absorbed. Which is why it kills the Blue Devils to lose to him.

Friday's affair - especially when the game started to careen out of control - was a prime example.

It wasn't enough that Hitchens scored 26 of his game-high 30 points after halftime, when he took the game over with one of the more impressive displays of outside shooting at Winland in quite a while.

It wasn't enough that he forced overtime with a miraculous step-back 3 with a player draped all over him. Or that he hit another long jumper in the final minute of overtime to put his team ahead for good.

When Hitchens could have stayed quiet, and showed respect to his opponent, he told Zanesville's Logan Aronhalt - at the line shooting the potential game-tying free throws with :06.6 left in overtime - "if you're a big-time player, you'll knock both of these down."

That's what Hitchens told me after the game. So much for showing class to an opponent, and a highly-respected one at that. But in Chillicothe's case, it's merely expected.

The old phrase "act like you've been there before" simply doesn't apply to this team or its fans. If it did, they'd have listened when Zanesville's public address announcer asked before the end of the game to not storm the court.

They did anyway.

Say what you will about Zanesville and its so-called arrogance. The team dresses in suits, rides to games in charter buses fit for a Van Halen road crew, and has a coach who has never been afraid to defend his program - or his school.

But win or lose, they do it with dignity and grace.

And regardless of what happens in a potential rematch Feb. 9, you can bet that won't change.


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Post by maninthemiddle »

gunnit, that's what i thought. We have no control over what a sportwriter puts in a newspaper. It is his opinion and that is what 95% of a newspaper is. I'm sure if this was directed at the school you supported you would react the same way. Obviously the school you support must not do anything athletically to write about or you would be on those posts spreading your words of wisdom. The longer this goes on the more of a volatile situation it will be at the game on Feb 9th. Time to change the channel. I haven't seen too many people denying what was wrote. I was at the game and saw what happened. Being a coach myself somebody would have got some bench time.


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Wow... (big sigh). Wasn't at the game last friday, but followed it on the internet and via texts from "little" Lamont. My initial thoughts immediately after the game were that this is another big win for Chilly against another quality opponent. Not the biggest mind you (I still put last year's McClain win, and this year's Dunbar at the top since Coach K took over). But, after all the back and forth bantering, blaming, trash talking, and basically what amounts to "moral judgement" from the Zanesville faithful, this game turned out to be a MUCH bigger loss to the Devils, than it was a win for the Cavs. Seriously, how dare the Cavs go TO the 'Ville and overcome all that adversity?! How dare they stick together as a team with their best player on the pine for a good amount of the first half?! How dare they dig out of what even coach Aronholt thought was a deep enough hole for the Devils to go on and win by 10-15 points?! How dare they scratch and claw to the bitter end, using whatever "gamemanship" along the way, and ride their star player's great second half (particularly 4th quarter) to a win?! How dare they do it against of all teams... Zanesville?! And, how dare they show sheer joy, enthusiasm, and yes, maybe a little brashness along the way. Doesn't Chilly's players, fans, and coaches know that this is simply not "allowed"?! Regarding the last question, I for one, hope they don't find it acceptable to answer yes. Hope this writer is able to get over himself and his personal appointment as Chilly's "moral compass". What he actually may have done is fire the Cavs up even more for the rematch. Go Cavs!!!


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Post by Dshanton3 »

he also displayed a very hypocritical mindset to preach bout the class of the zville program and its fans and then bash a high school kid individually in a published article. Must be a mission to make any team they cant beat look as poor as possible.


and thats just how it is...Dshanton3
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Post by bman618 »

Nothing a matter with storming the court after a big win. It's high school sports. Now if they would stomp on the Zanesville logo or something, that would be over the line. The Hitchens thing is gamemanship. Is it nice? Depends on your opinion. That's all this is.


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Post by baller3 »

great post lamont...


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Post by Lamont Cranston »

Yeh, seriously... hope no one says a "cross" word to Aronhalt @ Albany during his career there. This game has CHANGED. If he was that out of control, wouldn't the officials have done something?! Oh wait they did... in the first quarter. Of course, in the mind of this writer, they called three fouls too few on him. Pathetic, but typical of today's world in general. Instead of making yourself better, try and make your opponents worse. Go Cavs!!!


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Lamont Cranston wrote:Wow... (big sigh). Wasn't at the game last friday, but followed it on the internet and via texts from "little" Lamont. My initial thoughts immediately after the game were that this is another big win for Chilly against another quality opponent. Not the biggest mind you (I still put last year's McClain win, and this year's Dunbar at the top since Coach K took over). But, after all the back and forth bantering, blaming, trash talking, and basically what amounts to "moral judgement" from the Zanesville faithful, this game turned out to be a MUCH bigger loss to the Devils, than it was a win for the Cavs. Seriously, how dare the Cavs go TO the 'Ville and overcome all that adversity?! How dare they stick together as a team with their best player on the pine for a good amount of the first half?! How dare they dig out of what even coach Aronholt thought was a deep enough hole for the Devils to go on and win by 10-15 points?! How dare they scratch and claw to the bitter end, using whatever "gamemanship" along the way, and ride their star player's great second half (particularly 4th quarter) to a win?! How dare they do it against of all teams... Zanesville?! And, how dare they show sheer joy, enthusiasm, and yes, maybe a little brashness along the way. Doesn't Chilly's players, fans, and coaches know that this is simply not "allowed"?! Regarding the last question, I for one, hope they don't find it acceptable to answer yes. Hope this writer is able to get over himself and his personal appointment as Chilly's "moral compass". What he actually may have done is fire the Cavs up even more for the rematch. Go Cavs!!!


WOW..... :!: :shock:

I second that, great post lamont... :!:

GO CAVS :!: :-D


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Post by ZvilleBlueDevil »

Being cocky and average is one thing being cocky and one of the best pg in the state is another with that said i hope to see both at the schott in march....


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Post by Hitchbone64 »

^^^^^

I would replace "cocky" with confidence with a swagger. I continue to say all of the good ones have some of it. Heck I have even saw Tim "Quiet Man" Duncan talk trash.

I watched a very young David Robinson as a Soph at the Naval Academy talk some trash during an NCAA Tourney game.

I to would love to see both Chilly and Z-Ville advance as far as they can including the Final 4.

GO CAVS!!!


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This is all I will say about all of this, I have watched just about all of the great Chillicothe basketball players from about 1968 through the present and none of them have felt the need to have a swagger about them like some of this bunch of Cavs. Bayless, Glasgow, Veris, Fairrow(Mike & Fred)Harris, Gause and the Beverly's. The one thing all of them had in common was a strict diciplinarian as a coach. Kellough has rebuilt and reborn Cavs basketball and I give him alot of credit for doing what alot of other coaches were unable to do in that regard. But there are many many Cavs fans past and present who are not big fans of the so called swagger and the way it presents itself. And believe me after this group of Cavs have played out there careers it's quite likely that the program may slip quite a ways and then let's see have entertaining the swagger is then. And it would not surprise me one bit to see Coach Kellough call it a career. Until then let's all hope that the swagger doesn't interfere with the quest of a state title which I believe has never been accomplished at CHS.


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Post by O.R.prep »

First of all, As someone who works around the media circle. That is one of the most NO CLASS articles I have ever read.

Z-ville fans-Must you be reminded of how classy a former Blue Devil was when Cleveland Heights beat you in the state championship game. (Mr Martin threw his medal on the floor like a baby. Only to the Boo's to all in attendence. (NOW THAT IS A CLASS PROGRAM) Please just except the fact .You have yet to beat the CAVS.

The Fan- You must really know alot about theCavs program. Quit living in the past. Do people understand that Coach Kellough has went farther in
his short time at CHS then Tom Cuppet ever did. Also with Knights, Dawes ,Smith, Benson, Turner, and also a 6'7 inch freshman in the mix there is more on the way (By the way if you don't like the Swagger of Humpty just wait for Malik. He is ranked as the 30th best 8th grader in the nation.(You will just love his swagger)


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Post by thefan »

If I remember correctly the Cavs made to the Regionals several times in the Cuppett era and at that time they were AAA which is pretty much equal to todays D1.


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