Over/under on TVC teams getting to the Convo?

[93Bulldog]

Its kind of tough for Vinton County when they get shipped off to that D2 sectional Ringo ... Logan Elm was one of the better teams in the entire state a few years back and have been in the top 10 numerous times in the last 8 years ... Warren has had some crazy good teams (Athens went 19-1 a few years ago and was bounced by Warren in the sectionals) ... Gallia Academy had a few really good teams back in 03 and 04 ... And then Fairfield Union and Sheridan have showed up at the sectional with 15, 16 or 17 win teams ... And then what can you do when you get beat by an eventual state champion (Chillicothe) in the districts?

Your underestimating how tough D2 basketball can be in southeastern Ohio.

[Rvbballdude]

Well..... your measured on how you do against schools your size,not your league,both Athens and VC were atop a league dominated by Div 3 teams. Now i give props to Athens scheduling teams their size as does VC in some instances but they are a very vertically challenged team with NO big man to speak of.If they don't shoot they could exit quickly!
But the league schedule hurts come tourney time.
I think the same fate will hit Federal Hocking,I watched them against Southern,Howie may be a magician they have no where the athletes most of the Div 3 teams do Southeastern will win that one by 10 . Belpre much more suited to play sectional ball.
South Gallia needs all 5 starters healthy Danny Matney (one of the twins) has struggled with a deep calf shin bruise not played the last few games. They could get upset i don't think they will.
Fairland could also make some noise in div2 this year,they are solid!

[Hopper 11]

ringo I think Vinton Co. has done quite well. I watched them play some great very competitive games at the Convo. Playing in the same bracket with a Dante Jackson led McClain team would cut down on any teams chances. Not to mention some really good Logan Elm teams and a state champion Chilli team out of their district so I guess I measure success a little different than you. I will never forget the game in early 2000"s when Vinton Co. brought their whole county, what a great game and atmosphere.

[93Bulldog]

ringo I think Vinton Co. has done quite well. I watched them play some great very competitive games at the Convo. Playing in the same bracket with a Dante Jackson led McClain team would cut down on any teams chances. Not to mention some really good Logan Elm teams and a state champion Chilli team out of their district so I guess I measure success a little different than you. I will never forget the game in early 2000"s when Vinton Co. brought their whole county, what a great game and atmosphere.

Best day of hoops I have ever seen at the Convo - bar none! ... And I have seen about 20 years worth of games ... lol ... That Vinton County/Greenfield game your talking about kicked off a 'championship Saturday' filled with great players and great games all afternoon ... The only time I have ever had to sit in the lite-green seats (besides OU games) was during the VC/Greenfield game ... That place was absolutly packed for a high school hoops event.

[pfloyd]

... 93dog ... I gave it an "over" vote ...

Athens is taking on by far the toughest competition, drawing the assignment of having to beat a very good Logan Elm squad ... but the other games are all winnable for the TVC imo

Vinton County ... FU seems to have collapsed in the last part of the season ... not an easy game for Coach Combs boyz BUT VC has figured out how to win again ... a lot will depend on how healthy Remy is - playing the last 2 games pretty much on one leg ... I still give the edge to VC

Nelsonville York ... Crooksville/RV

Belpre ... Coach Thornhill has Belpre "believing" they belong again with the TVC Championship under their belts ... many of the Belpre "faithful" remember when BHS was a "fixture" at the Convo - Coach Thornhill wants the Orange and Black to hear "Basketball Thirty" announced by Lou Horvath AGAIN ... wants them to want to be/expect to be at the Convo every year once again ... Zane Trace ? flip a coin, which ZT team is going to show up ? very athletic and every other game very competitive ... I'm going with the TEAM on a mission - Belpre moves on ...

Federal Hocking ... this game with Southeastern will be a tough one BUT I'm with you 93dog ... I put my money on Howie in a winner take all/one and done game... Howie has the Lancers coming into this post season riding a 5 games win streak ... take Howie & Co. even up ...

Waterford ... vs Symmes Valley

South Gallia ... vs Ironton St. Joseph ... the Rebels have been playing shorthanded for about 2 weeks ... when they have all of the seniors on the floor they can be very dangerous ... I'm going with the "all facial hair" team from South Gallia ...


... add to that Wellston and Southern as the other 2 TVC teams making an appearance at the Convo ... should be some great attendance numbers for the early rounds at Basketball Thirty this year 93dog !!!

[Ironman92]

I'll say 8 make it to the Convo and 1or 2 win a game at the Convo

[danicalifornia]

I keep thinking 6-exactly.

Obviously they are guaranteed 2, but South Gallia and Waterford should be in. Nelsonville as well. Now, I'm an SVC guy, so I think Belpre/ZT and FH/SE are almost coin flips, as well as VC/FU. I wouldn't be surprised if 8 advanced or if 5 do.

[johnny ringo]

Its kind of tough for Vinton County when they get shipped off to that D2 sectional Ringo ... Logan Elm was one of the better teams in the entire state a few years back and have been in the top 10 numerous times in the last 8 years ... Warren has had some crazy good teams (Athens went 19-1 a few years ago and was bounced by Warren in the sectionals) ... Gallia Academy had a few really good teams back in 03 and 04 ... And then Fairfield Union and Sheridan have showed up at the sectional with 15, 16 or 17 win teams ... And then what can you do when you get beat by an eventual state champion (Chillicothe) in the districts?

Your underestimating how tough D2 basketball can be in southeastern Ohio.

yes, I do understand how tough it is because its filled with QUALITY D2 programs, which VC cannot compete with. As i said, VC dominates all year long against smaller schools which gives them the appearance of being this great winning program but when they get to the tourny and play the ACTUAL QUALITY D2 programs, they cant compete.Put them in the SEOAL against schools their size and they would go 10 and 10 every year. heck, put them in a QUALITY D3 league like the SOC2 and watch what would happen. They would get drilled in that league as well. You can come up with all the excuses you want or examples from every year. the truth is, they always run into a better team because, in reality, they arent very good . They just appear to be because of the weak schedule that they play.

[93Bulldog]

16-to-12 now in favor of the under ... Is hope for the TVC gaining ground or what?

[Rabeanos0512]

Vincon County does not play a tough enough schedule to make it deep. The year they were unbeaten in the regular season they got owned by the only good team they beat all year(My cavaliers!). I may be bitter though. I played at SMith middle school in Chilli and we lost 4 games in 7th and 8th grade, 3 of which came to VC and one to Hilliard Weaver. They were so much stronger and bigger then. But once we got to highschool it was a different story. We beat them at Zane Trace in a kickoff classic of some sort. Beat them pretty handidly too. With Clint Austin having the flu. This was when they had Oosley and Bethel.
Ranting some i know. But VC cant match up with the good competition come tourney time

[johnny ringo]

Vincon County does not play a tough enough schedule to make it deep. The year they were unbeaten in the regular season they got owned by the only good team they beat all year(My cavaliers!). I may be bitter though. I played at SMith middle school in Chilli and we lost 4 games in 7th and 8th grade, 3 of which came to VC and one to Hilliard Weaver. They were so much stronger and bigger then. But once we got to highschool it was a different story. We beat them at Zane Trace in a kickoff classic of some sort. Beat them pretty handidly too. With Clint Austin having the flu. This was when they had Oosley and Bethel.
Ranting some i know. But VC cant match up with the good competition come tourney time

Thank you Rabeanos. Its good to hear from someone with a realistic viewpoint.

[Rabeanos0512]

"Only team they played" my bad im at work so please forgive my grammer errors.

and with the topic of the thread. Under 6...no doubt. Ill say under 3

[93Bulldog]

It all depends on what you consider success ... Athens and Vinton County are both Division II ... Athens spent years in the SEOAL where they played a pretty tough schedule - especially when Chillicothe and Zanesville joined the league ... Now look, Athens has NOT BEEN TO THE CONVO since when I played clear back in 1993!!!!

Vinton County on the other hand has been their quite a bit - and they had to beat DIVISION II TEAMS & SEOAL teams to get their (in the Logan sectional).

I don't want to hear how VC doesn't do this, and they don't do that, or their not good enough to reach this point ... They have faired a heck of a lot better in terms of success than a lot of other DII teams in southeastern Ohio - and that's a fact!

[Dundas]

VC got owned that year by the team that won the state championship. Also the year VC played Chillicothe in the ZT tip off, the Vikings only lost by 11 I believe. That same year they started 4-3 and rolled off 17 straight to lose in the district finals by 6 against Danta Jackson and the McClain tigers.
I will agree with you that most years VC would struggle some in the SEOAL, but there have been years where they definitely could have won it. A few years ago they beat Warren in the sectional final. Warren think was 15-5 and had won the SEOAL. That's just off the top of my head though.. I too am at work and will double check the facts when I get home.

[Rabeanos0512]

VC got owned that year by the team that won the state championship. Also the year VC played Chillicothe in the ZT tip off, the Vikings only lost by 11 I believe. That same year they started 4-3 and rolled off 17 straight to lose in the district finals by 6 against Danta Jackson and the McClain tigers.
I will agree with you that most years VC would struggle some in the SEOAL, but there have been years where they definitely could have won it. A few years ago they beat Warren in the sectional final. Warren think was 15-5 and had won the SEOAL. That's just off the top of my head though.. I too am at work and will double check the facts when I get home.

You are probably right about in 2005 only winning by 11. I just know we won. And Clint Austin only had 2 points due to Mono or the Flu or something.
I didnt even read the whole thread. As i said when i hear Vinton County it takes me back to middle school and crying in the locker room after our loss in 8th grade lol. Clint Austin went down with a broken wrist and we never rebounded in that game. Then lost at VC last game of the year. A bitter Cavalier fan I am lol! Best of luck in the tourney though.

[Dundas]

I think it would benefit VC to beef up their non league a bit. I would love an annual VC/Chillicothe game as well as a VC/Logan Elm. On the other hand though can see not playing them so they aren't familiar with our schemes come tourney time. Personally I think the SVC is top to bottom better than the TVC and I'd be for VC moving in that direction.

[93Bulldog]

I think it would benefit VC to beef up their non league a bit. I would love an annual VC/Chillicothe game as well as a VC/Logan Elm. On the other hand though can see not playing them so they aren't familiar with our schemes come tourney time. Personally I think the SVC is top to bottom better than the TVC and I'd be for VC moving in that direction.

Hey hey now ... VC is going nowhere Dundas ... lol ... The Vikings/Bulldogs rivalry is getting to good to leave now.

Besides - the beauty of being in the TVC-Ohio is schedule flexibility ... Only 6 teams gives you the opportunity to schedule 10 non-league games ... Heck, you can almost play an entire SVC schedule and still be in the TVC.

[Dundas]

That is true dog.. but VC did go 1-1 vs the SVC in football! Maybe we can just join for the fall!

[Futurebkstar]

1. Southern with Roseberry make the trip.
2. Wellston will beat Meigs.
3. South Gallia and the Seniors will make another trip....too experienced!!!
4. Waterford will beat a declining Symmes Valley bunch!
5. Nelsonville-York beats River Valley
6. Belpre outlasts Zane Trace in a close one
7. Vinton County too much for Fairfield Union
8. Federal Hocking coaching staff too much for Southeastern

My prediction being 8 total teams!!!!!

[93Bulldog]

Federal Hocking losing by 1 lousy point has the over/under on the fence at the moment ... Athens beating Logan Elm helps; but VC turned around and lost to FFU ... So far we have 1. ATHENS, 2. WELLSTON, 3. NELSONVILLE-YORK, 4. SOUTHERN/TRIMBLE WINNER ... We need Belpre, Waterford to win setting up the all important 4/5 match-up between South Gallia & St. Joe ... Nobody has mentioed Eastern either for some reason - who knows if Carnahan could get hot and Eastern somehow pulls out a big upset over the No. 2 seed ... It happened last night in Logan with Athens beating Logan Elm.