North Adams vs Zane Trace

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I would have to say that the shl is still a tuff league to play in and always will be bc you have North Adams under coach youngs control and peebles which is a young team and has some growing up to do other than that im not sure maybe eastern bc somehow they always find a way to compete. but the way ZT played sunday i would say that North Adams will have no trouble taking care of business i take NA by 14


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Having seen both play..based on last night...North Adams will cruise into Regionals. Zane Trace has a solid interior defense but Alexander was smaller than North Adams...i dont see the pioneers getting the same results against bigger kids.

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OK, gotta jump in here. This comparison is only to show that anything can happen and is my reason for believing this will be a close game in the low 60's or high 50's. Again, like most of Z.T. games, if it is in low to mid 50s, they probably will pull it out. If not, then NA has the edge. I know comparisons don't always add up, but sometimes they do!!

Here goes.

Z.T. loses at Westfall by 3
Z.T. loses at home to Westfall by 1
Alexander beats Westfall by 10
Z.T. beats Alexander by 10
Westfall beats Chesapeake by 5...led by 10 most of the game.
Chesapeake loses 80-79 to NA at the Convo earlier this year.

So not sure why people don't think ZT can hang in this game. They are a few bounces away from tied for first in the SVC or second place.

Good luck Z.T.!!


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Closer game than most think.
I know NA is the heavy favorite, but I think ZT has a shot.


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ZT played probably the best game they've played in their lives against Peebles. In my opinion, they may play with NA the first half but 2nd half will be all NA. They will have no answer for Unger and NA will wear them out.


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shljunkie wrote:ZT played probably the best game they've played in their lives against Peebles. In my opinion, they may play with NA the first half but 2nd half will be all NA. They will have no answer for Unger and NA will wear them out.


ZT played very well gainst Peebles. But Peebles would have lost to Paint Valley that night. They didn't press a slow down team the entire game (until it was too late). They let Justice shoot constantly when he was ice cold even though #30 was drilling his shots. If they press in that game and adjust to #30 shooting and Justice attempting to pass...they would have won. You can't win forever with one or two scorers just shooting all the time. Peebles and Chesapeake found that out.

Some of these kids are great shooters/scorers...Justice, Copley, Webb...but they aren't Kobe or Lebron...they can't be hot every night. N.A. is a better "team" with more weapons and that is why Unger is a much better player at this point in his career compared to the Peebles/Chesapeake players. He finds open players and plays within the game. Very talented.


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All these conference comparisons mean nothing. This game will be about how Zane Trace matches up with North Adams. The Zane Trace coach no doubt knows he is going to see the press come Saturday. How they handle the press and the size of North Adams is going to determine how the game goes. A slow paced game would probably be more to Zane Trace's advantage however North Adams has won in those type of games as well as in up and down games.


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SHL is a horrible conference, put NA in the SVC and they loose 2-4 games easily, they loose that many in the SOC even!


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KrAm wrote:SHL is a horrible conference, put NA in the SVC and they loose 2-4 games easily, they loose that many in the SOC even!


Maybe, maybe not. Pretty much irrelevent since they don't play in either. You are entitled to your opinion however unless you have watched every game North Adams has played and understand how other teams in the SHL get up for when they play North Adams then you probably aren't the best judge of how good the North Adams team is.


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I believe NA will have an easy WIN in this game!


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hbk123 wrote:Question for NA fans.

Who has NA played this yearthat is still left in the tourney.


Well of the teams left there is Hillsboro, but the Devils have beaten the sectional champion teams of Chesapeake, Manchester 2x, Fairfield, Hillsboro, and now Fairland. Pepper than in with 2 wins against a very good Peebles ball club and an extremely underrated Portsmouth team.


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NA by 12...


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krAM, just shows how much you know about basketball. The level of competition in the SHL may be down this year, I'll give you that, but year in and year out, the SHL is one of the most competitive leagues around and as boomer said, in this league, teams come to play every night. Basketball is THE sport in this league.
By the way, lose is spelled L-O-S-E, not loose, thats the opposite of tight. But anyway....I'm not sure you're going to come up with 2-4 teams in either of those leagues that will beat North Adams. I think you can look at the records over the past years of times the teams have played between the leagues and I don't think the conclusion is that the SHL is a horrible league.


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GO PIONEERS! AND SVC!


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shljunkie wrote:krAM, just shows how much you know about basketball. The level of competition in the SHL may be down this year, I'll give you that, but year in and year out, the SHL is one of the most competitive leagues around and as boomer said, in this league, teams come to play every night. Basketball is THE sport in this league.
By the way, lose is spelled L-O-S-E, not loose, thats the opposite of tight. But anyway....I'm not sure you're going to come up with 2-4 teams in either of those leagues that will beat North Adams. I think you can look at the records over the past years of times the teams have played between the leagues and I don't think the conclusion is that the SHL is a horrible league.



Lose yea my bad, got a little carried away. I can't come up with 2-4 teams they would LOSE to in the SVC or SOC? Umm let's see,
SVC....
Piketon, too big for NA and they would have a hard time scoring on that defense just like everyone else.
Westfall, they would compete with NA just because of their speed and shooting ability.
Zane Trace, they definately can compete with NA, play well as a team and are a scrappy bunch, we will see this weekend.
Adena, they are competitive too but if you get in that teams head then they are finished.
And don't count out Huntington, they have competed this whole year and came away with some tough losses.

SOC....
Oak Hill, just too much for NA, they might beat NA by double digits.
Wheelersburg, they are always a tough out, even tho they were in a down year this year.
Valley, much improved, they have the speed and shooting ability to compete with NA.
Minford might even be able to compete with NA.

And I didn't even mention the SEOAL, NA shouldn't even of been at the convo, they should of lost to ZT.

SHL got the wins in the tourny against the weaker teams in the SVC and SOC with Eastern Brown beating a SLUMPING Adena team, and Peebles beating a sub-par Portsmouth West team that NA beat my 40 or something earlier in the season.


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KrAm wrote:[]


Lose yea my bad, got a little carried away. I can't come up with 2-4 teams they would LOSE to in the SVC or SOC? Umm let's see,
SVC....
Piketon, too big for NA and they would have a hard time scoring on that defense just like everyone else.
Westfall, they would compete with NA just because of their speed and shooting ability.
Zane Trace, they definately can compete with NA, play well as a team and are a scrappy bunch, we will see this weekend.
Adena, they are competitive too but if you get in that teams head then they are finished.
And don't count out Huntington, they have competed this whole year and came away with some tough losses.

SOC....
Oak Hill, just too much for NA, they might beat NA by double digits.
Wheelersburg, they are always a tough out, even tho they were in a down year this year.
Valley, much improved, they have the speed and shooting ability to compete with NA.
Minford might even be able to compete with NA.

And I didn't even mention the SEOAL, NA shouldn't even of been at the convo, they should of lost to ZT.

SHL got the wins in the tourny against the weaker teams in the SVC and SOC with Eastern Brown beating a SLUMPING Adena team, and Peebles beating a sub-par Portsmouth West team that NA beat my 40 or something earlier in the season.


Wheelersburg?? The same Wheelersburg team who was beaten by Fairland?
Oak Hill? Is that the same Oak Hill who struggled against Fairfield last night?

You must just be trying to stir the pot because some of your opinions are just out there.


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kram you dont even make sense. All your little case makers are just that...maybes...anyone can beat anyone on any given night. You said "NA shouldn't be at the Convo...they should've lost to ZT".....that was an ignorent comment when NA hasn't even faced ZT yet...they will play each other in the district finals. How can you come on here and post such stupid stuff and not even know that?


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I'd say you're right boomer...no way anyone with any basketball sense at all would make those kind of comments.


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I meant Portsmouth you d***'s, I got ahead of myself a little bit.
And boomer, did you not read what I said that Wheelersburg was down this year?
And well ya know, everyone plays better in the tournament, kinda a given on that one.

And the only reason you are disagreeing with me is because that you guys are on the NA bandwagon just because they are undefeated. I have changed my mind, I am GUARANTEEING a ZT victory this weekend.

Oh and by the way, I would almost bet you that they would struggle, or even LOSE to some of those teams I mentioned. And I forgot to put in Waverly in that mix, they are struggling as well but they would compete with NA.


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You use speed and shooting ability as things that would give North Adams trouble yet they faced that very thing against Portsmouth and wound up winning and yes they do in fact deserve to be there. I don't disagree that Piketon is a good team and should the game happen it should be very good game. Only saw Piketon once this year and was impressed (although I still say the Trojans Williams is the best big man I've seen this year) but thats about the only team you mentioned that I've seen that matches up very well with North Adams.
Not sure how you can guarantee a win unless you are playing in the game but we'll see how that works out for you.


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