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In last 20-25 years, don't you have to throw the Redstreaks in the list somewhere?


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Jesco White wrote:Didn't Belpre also win a Regional Title in '93?
They were State Runner Up in '93


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If we're going back 25 years:
Chillicothe has won a state title and was very successful in the late 80's/early 90s when D1 was filled up a little more.
Southeastern made a trip to the Final Four and has been to the Regionals at least 6 times in that span
Unioto was a State Runner Up, as well as a staple at the Convo throughout the 90s
Piketon made a Regional Run in 92 and went to the Final Four 3 years ago
Logan Elm has been to the Regionals a few times and made a trip to the Final Four, but most of their success has been in the past decade.


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How about adding up district wins and beyond? District semi win...1 pt, district final win 2 pt, regional semi win 3.....and so forth thru state final win worth 6?

I'd be interested to see those numbers from the past 15-20 years.

I did not know Belpre has been to 3 final fours....learn something new every day


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Ironman- Back in the huddle days, there was someone who tracked the team of the 00's in soccer and did it the same way, it was really cool, but seemed like a HUGE chore. I like the idea though.


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I could probably do Whiteoak the last 15-20 years, but few probably care and I would want to see all the top 10-12 teams.

Interesting to me.

2000-present

Whiteoak

6 District Semi Wins = 6 points
3 District Finals Wins = 6 points
2 Regional Semi Wins = 6 points
1 Regional Final Win = 4 points

Whiteoak 22 points since 2000......I think that would be their score for the past 15-20 years as well. Adding points for sectional final wins and adding a point to each round would put them a little higher up the chart.


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Have a question.....what is considered Southeastern Ohio? What is Southwestern Ohio? I don't consider WhiteOak, Hillsboro, Peebles ect. to be Southeastern Ohio. They are all more Southwestern than Southeastern.

What gives?


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Blackjack wrote:Have a question.....what is considered Southeastern Ohio? What is Southwestern Ohio? I don't consider WhiteOak, Hillsboro, Peebles ect. to be Southeastern Ohio. They are all more Southwestern than Southeastern.

What gives?
You are in the southeastern district if you play your district/regional games at the convo, all of them do.


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Blackjack wrote:Have a question.....what is considered Southeastern Ohio? What is Southwestern Ohio? I don't consider WhiteOak, Hillsboro, Peebles ect. to be Southeastern Ohio. They are all more Southwestern than Southeastern.

What gives?
6 districts in the state...the SW has a surplus of schools and the SE district is very lacking. If it was divided strictly by actual location the SE district would be even less represented throughout the state in sports.

The Big 10 and the Cowboys being in the NFC East bother me a touch....and some of the Big East teams.


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Chesapeake since 2000
2000:
District semi win=1
2001:
District semi win=1
District finals win=2
2002:
District semi win=1
2003:
District semi win=1
District final win=2
2004:
District semi win=1
District fianl win=2
Regional semi win=3
2005:
District semi win=1
District finals win=2
2006
2007:
District semi win=1
2008
2009:
District semi win=1
district final win=2
regional semi win=3
regional final win=4
2010:
district semi win=1
district final win=2
Regional semi win=3

2000's=34 points

If someone wants to help me or correct me with the 90's please feel free.
99
98:
District semi=1
District finals=2
Regional Semis=3
97:
District semi=1
District Finals=2
96:
District semi=1
95?
94?
93:
District semi=1
district final=1
regional semi=3
92
91?
90?
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Wheelersburg since 2000
Dist. Semi wins - 7 pts
Dist. Final wins - 10 pts
Regional Semi wins - 6 pts
Regoinal Final wins - 8 pts

Total pts 31.
If you go back 20 years, I believe Burgs total would be 52 pts.


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peake wrote:Over the past two decades it is very difficult to argue anyone is better then Wheelersburg.

If I had to rank programs in SEO in the past 20-25 years it would go like this.

1. Wheelersburg
2. Chesapeake
3. Ironton
4. Portsmouth
5. Belpre
6. South Webster
7. North Adams
8. Greenfield Mc
9. Eastern Meigs
10. White Oak


I should start a thread called "the success in the last 2 meetings of Portsmouth vs. Chesapeake" and then I would want you to come in and sub thread that post and make sure you ignore the topic at hand! Basically just make the topic about Chesapeake or Burg or whoever you like.....just make sure you take another jab at Portsmouth as you conveniently select whatever years you want to, go right ahead. Chesapeake is a really good program. But it's really crazy to ignore history. History as a whole!


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Show me the success Portsmouth has had over the past 20 years and I will change my tune. Someone said they would put Portsmouth over Chesapeake in the last 20 years, I disagree. If Portsmouth can match Chesapeake and someone can show me the stats then I will be fine with saying I am wrong. I don't get off on talking about how good programs where 50 years ago. It starts to sound like Notre Dame football. Yes Notre Dame has one of the all-time great programs, but no one wants to hear how good they were back in the 40's. Same here. I know Portsmouth was a beast pre 90's, but in the past 20 years they are not the dominant program in the area. I know it hurts your feeling because your Dad is the coach, but if you are going to be so offended than my suggestion to you is stay off of SEOP.


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Why is it that people want to compartmentalize history to fit their time frame?.......The topic is "Rich History of Success!.......not "Rich History of Success for the last 20-25 years!"

When it comes to the most successful program in the HISTORY of the SE District, there is no doubt that Portsmouth FAR AND AWAY is #1 in many categories..........such as:

1. Most sectional titles.......40
2. Most district titles.........35 (More than 2nd place Wheelersburg and 3rd place Southeastern Ross COMBINED)
3. Most regional titles........14
4. Most Final 4's...............10 (Wheelersburg, Chillicothe, Ironton, and Chesapeake have 10 Final 4's COMBINED)
5. Most state titles............4
6. Most state championship game appearances: 7
7. Most state tournament appearances: 14 (4 of which were when the state tournament was the Sweet 16)

Now if one wants to go back 25 years, which some have on this thread, then here is our resume during that time:

25 year time period.........which goes back to 1987.........

State championships: 1988
State runnerup: 1990
State semifinalist: 2011
Elite 8 appearance: 1991
District titles: 9.......1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1994, 1999, 2001, 2011
Regional titles: 3......1988, 1990, 2011

Portsmouth has missed the state tournament in only 2 decades since the OHSAA started the state tournament in 1923.......PHS missed from 1950-1959 and from 2000-2009........the Trojans did make 2 Elite 8 appearances in 1954 and 1955.

It is not fair to compartmentalize history because there have been some great accomplishments by a number of schools, not just Portsmouth, prior to 2000 or whatever cutoff date one wants to use.........

I have watched my school, Portsmouth High School, win two state championships and finish runnerup twice.......and the trophies are just as shiny in our trophy case as if the OHSAA handed them out yesterday.

And yes, I will report the bad as well..........from 2003-2009, Portsmouth posted a 52-100 record, had no district titles, only 1 sectional title, and 7 straight losing seasons.........EVERY SCHOOL has had periods of down years, and ours has been very recent. But things are turning around under Coach Eugene Collins, who already has the most recent Final 4 appearance by a SE District school.
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Peake: Chesapeake has been a more consistent winning program over the past 20 years than Portsmouth.......but the topic entails history as a whole and not just the past 20 years. You've created a subtopic of just the past 20 years to fit your time frame.......and that is not fair to Portsmouth or any other program for that matter.


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Oh well. Poor Portsmouth. To be honest I don't know exact record pre 90's is the real reason, not to make it fit some sort of fairy tale argument you sensitive Trojan fans wre complaining about. I doubt anyone on here can give accurate records beyond 80's or 90's for most schools.

So I created a sub thread, you two are the only ones who seem to care. Most everyone else was playing along and not complaining, including burg fans who had a lot of success pre 90's.

No one is going to argue they are better then Portsmouth over the course of 50 years. I think it is interesting to look at the past 20 to 25 because most of us can recall those years.


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peake
So - the last 25 yrs....who is the most successful program? I am not from Ptown or Peake - but have watched both teams ALOT.... who has the most district titles? regional titles? state titles? in the last 25 years, as you just want to look at.....lets just forget about the 'ancient' past that no one wants to talk about.


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Who cares? Geesh you people are sensitive. Who here has the data available to them to chart the success of their program over 50+ years? I don't and I am sure most don't.

This is not a I am building a case for my team to fit my frame. This is an I don't find winning a sectional title back in 1945 too interesting, just as I don't find college football national champions very interesting back in the 50's or 40's either.

I would say the majority of posters on this site are not 50+ years old, so most of use haven't seen the great Portsmouth, Wheelersburg, Ironton, etc team of 1960.

I thought it would be interesting to do it more recently, on a freaking public chat forum, little did I know it was full of journalism majors capable of pulling records from a century ago and making it relevant or interesting.

If you don't want to participate, then feel free not to.

No one is dismissing any past teams or making this unfair. This isnt a Chesapeake v Portsmouth thread. Someone made a comment in the past 20ish years they'd rank Portsmouth above Chesapeake, I disagreed and now I have people complaining and whining about being insensitive towards Portsmouth history.

Portsmouth without a doubt is the best all-time program in SEO, that is undisputed. All you Portsmouth fans feel better now? Your feelings better? Geesh bunch of buzz kills.


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hey, I said ok - last 25 years - just like you wanted. Who is the most successful team? how many district/reg/state titles does peake have? then we can compare them to trojandave's stats for ptown..... you are the sensitive one.


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peake wrote:Show me the success Portsmouth has had over the past 20 years and I will change my tune. Someone said they would put Portsmouth over Chesapeake in the last 20 years, I disagree. If Portsmouth can match Chesapeake and someone can show me the stats then I will be fine with saying I am wrong. I don't get off on talking about how good programs where 50 years ago. It starts to sound like Notre Dame football. Yes Notre Dame has one of the all-time great programs, but no one wants to hear how good they were back in the 40's. Same here. I know Portsmouth was a beast pre 90's, but in the past 20 years they are not the dominant program in the area. I know it hurts your feeling because your Dad is the coach, but if you are going to be so offended than my suggestion to you is stay off of SEOP.

then why did you click on a thread that said Rich "HISTORY" :lol:


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