Do you think the OHSAA should look into Shot Clocks for High School Basketball?

[Valenth]

I know a Simple, EASY and Inexpensive alternate to a Regular Shot Clock... A simple TV Flatscreen Monitor at each end with LARGE RED Numbers AND Black Screen format connected to a Touch Tablet with a Shot Clock app.. A simple touch screen format wouldnt wear out ANY Buttons. And its Simple to program.

[123xxx]

No

[Ironman92]

I know a Simple, EASY and Inexpensive alternate to a Regular Shot Clock... A simple TV Flatscreen Monitor at each end with LARGE RED Numbers AND Black Screen format connected to a Touch Tablet with a Shot Clock app.. A simple touch screen format wouldnt wear out ANY Buttons. And its Simple to program.

Yeah, but I bet you put 2 min of thought into that and school districts just don't have that type of time.

[123xxx]

Defiance won a state championship last year vs a much more athletic team by shortening the game. Others have done it as well. No shot clock allows coaches to strategic game plan vs superior athleticism. If or when this rule goes into action, in my opinion it will hurt SEO teams more than help later on in the tourney.

[rickoshay]

No

NO...HELL NO!!!

And yes, I was shouting

[pirates87]

I can see some advantages to a shot clock, the disadvantage would be that a team could no longer control the tempo of the game. Would be interesting to see how it would go.

[Tri-StateYouthSports]

Based on much of the logic in the comments above, maybe the 10sec to cross 1/2 court and over & back violation should be scrapped. I mean it does restrict coaching strategy. If 1/2 court stalling is good then full court stalling is better. Right?

I missed Ironman92's comments the 1st pass through. I just caught them, which draw the same conclusion that I did.

Note: In international basketball U15 and above uses a 24 sec shot clock.

[trojandave]

Ironman92 makes some great points......and I totally concur with his views. As far as no shot clock giving the underdog a chance to pull off the upset, how about the underdog working hard in the off season to improve their skills? Basketball isn't just about who can jump the highest or who is the quickest. It's about ball skills also.......and you get better at that by putting in the time. When I see someone who can't dribble, they haven't made the committment to improve. They shouldn't be rewarded by their lack of off season preparation by not having a shot clock.

A 40-45 second shot clock is very reasonable, and if a team won't shoot within that time frame, then they should have to give it up.

Even the best defensive teams can't steal the ball on every play........and with the new no contact rule it will make even more difficult to pressure guards on the perimeter.

[king kong]

When I see someone who can't dribble, they haven't made the committment to improve. They shouldn't be rewarded by their lack of off season preparation by not having a shot clock.

If a player cant dribble, get out and guard them?

[Abe Froman]

I am just not seeing the premise that the team with the ball controls the pace of the game, and a team that is he!! bent on stalling simply has the upper hand and the defensive team is helpless.

I see both points, and I do think in a couple years we will see it trickled down to the HS level so the game is more "entertaining" or "exciting".

But I maintain if you are a superior athletic or superior basketball skilled team, then press them or hop out of your zone for a bit and man-up and force the action. If you are the better team that in and of itself will speed the game up. Turnovers and points off of that whether on the press or on the man-to-man defense will by definition make the other team "speed" up. You can't stall if you are not in the lead.

When the shot clock is added look for the next argument to be the implementation of a "running clock", because if a team cannot control the clock or the pace of a game to try and stay in reach of a "better" or "superior" team, then "bad" or "inferior" team will be attempting shots at a much higher pace due to the shot clock, and given the fact they are not the better team is probably going to produce some pretty lopsided scores.

Great argument guys, like I said I see both sides, and in the end there will probably be some implementation of it. I doubt the OHSAA asks my opinion lol.

[Valenth]

I just brought this discussion to see what people thought...

[Abe Froman]

I just brought this discussion to see what people thought...

Good topic indeed, a lot of interesting items to consider listed above by everyone.

[Valenth]

I just enjoy an exciting Basketball game.... not a sleeper with limited action.

[doubleplay643]

If you want to see somebody stall and take forever, just watch I92 or Viking 96 in the buffet line at Cardo's loading up there plate.

Conversely if you want to see something fast-paced watch what happens as they clean their plate once they have a seat.

I like the idea I think of a clock...call it 45 seconds though.

I do agree with one of the posters above that you may start to see some big score differentials as the more talented team gets off their shots making a higher percentage and the less talented team struggling to get off their shots with less field goal %. Changes the coaching strategy for sure, for example the Norm Persin strategy versus Minford last year I think it was. He slowed it down in an attempt to keep it close versus a good Falcon team.

[Raider6309]

"Two teams of five players each try to score by shooting a ball through a hoop elevated 10 feet above the ground."

That's the definition of basketball. Running the weave is not basketball. I'd love to see a 30 second shot clock

[Valenth]

45 seconds seems VERY Reasonable.

[Raiderball]

No shot clock please.

[Raiderball]

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[Between the Lines]

Yes, I like the shot clock, it makes you work the ball plus a team can't stall as much.
But first they have to get the scorers table up and to date on how to run the possession arrow, it's been known for them to forget to change it with a change of hands.

[Omega]

Think Carroll Hawhee, early 70's, Shoemaker and the Gullion boys, the four corners. No shot clock. Strategy and ball handling are as a legitimate part of the game as bombing away at the rim.