Montgomery and Kayser the best duo in southeast ohio

[SouthEast Hoops Fan]

Yes they were. I'm not trying to come across as the Minford guys aren't good, but we are talking duo's that were just better imo. No offense to Minford, but the Ironton team from 05 was far better than Minford. They gave OJ Mayo and Bill Walker all they could handle in the title game. Waginger is the best pure point guard I've seen in SEO in 20+ years. He was a D1 starting guard for a reason. I'd take the duo of Ironton and SW all day.

I'm not sure what the comment about the two Minford guys being D1 back then. Neither are and neither would have been imo.

This is an opinion board, so here's mine. Montgomery and Kayser are D-1 quality players right now. No question. They are going to D-2 programs that are better than at least 1/3 of D-1 teams in the country, including some so-called mid-majors. I've seen a fair number of guys who passed up D-1 scholarships to play at strong D-2 schools. Happens. Both of these guys are in that category.

If they were D1 players, they'd be on D1 rosters. Maybe they will in a year. Again, I can tell who hasn't actually watched SEO Basketball over the past 30 years. Aldridge was better than both of those guys. Waginger may be the best PG to play in SEO in the past 30 years. We aren't even talking about guys like Todd Mayo, who was the absolute best player in the SEO in the last 30 years.

I feel like I am being disrespectful to the Minford duo, but I didn't make the claim they're the best duo in a long time.

Your first sentence is just flat out wrong. Not all D-1 scholarship-level players go that route. Lots of examples. Did you read the article that was posted today about Drake this season? Four guys on a D-2 team last year starting on a 30-win D-1 team this year. Over the years plenty of D-1 level players decided on Findlay in Ohio, Southeast Missouri, Lincoln in Tennessee in addition to West Liberty and Nova Southeastern as has been already stated by others.

[danicalifornia]

Yes they were. I'm not trying to come across as the Minford guys aren't good, but we are talking duo's that were just better imo. No offense to Minford, but the Ironton team from 05 was far better than Minford. They gave OJ Mayo and Bill Walker all they could handle in the title game. Waginger is the best pure point guard I've seen in SEO in 20+ years. He was a D1 starting guard for a reason. I'd take the duo of Ironton and SW all day.

I'm not sure what the comment about the two Minford guys being D1 back then. Neither are and neither would have been imo.

Everyone has an opinion, I’d take the miller, spradlin, cougil, salyers team over any of the ones mentioned, didn’t some of those teams play each other?

Miller would have been a freshmen or sophomore when Gagai and Waginger were at Ironton. Spradlin might have been a freshmen or 8th grader. They were both very good as well.

There have been so many great duo's honestly. Nick Morey and Klien at Belpre---Gagai and Waginger at Ironton---Aldridge and Waginger at SW---Carter and Fletcher Ironton---Miller and Spradlin Wheelersburg.

Ironton was the best SEO team I have seen since I started paying attention in 94. They took Cin Christian Hills to the wire in the state title game.

North College Hill and it was because of a transfer that they had in, because Waginger probably had his worst game possible offensively in the Final. Cliffton Howard had 28 and 16, Gagai had 22 and Waginger was 1-9, but did play excellent defense.

[N2Hoops]

Yes they were. I'm not trying to come across as the Minford guys aren't good, but we are talking duo's that were just better imo. No offense to Minford, but the Ironton team from 05 was far better than Minford. They gave OJ Mayo and Bill Walker all they could handle in the title game. Waginger is the best pure point guard I've seen in SEO in 20+ years. He was a D1 starting guard for a reason. I'd take the duo of Ironton and SW all day.

I'm not sure what the comment about the two Minford guys being D1 back then. Neither are and neither would have been imo.

This is an opinion board, so here's mine. Montgomery and Kayser are D-1 quality players right now. No question. They are going to D-2 programs that are better than at least 1/3 of D-1 teams in the country, including some so-called mid-majors. I've seen a fair number of guys who passed up D-1 scholarships to play at strong D-2 schools. Happens. Both of these guys are in that category.

If they were D1 players, they'd be on D1 rosters. Maybe they will in a year. Again, I can tell who hasn't actually watched SEO Basketball over the past 30 years. Aldridge was better than both of those guys. Waginger may be the best PG to play in SEO in the past 30 years. We aren't even talking about guys like Todd Mayo, who was the absolute best player in the SEO in the last 30 years.

I feel like I am being disrespectful to the Minford duo, but I didn't make the claim they're the best duo in a long time.

If this was pre-portal they’d both be D1

[N2Hoops]

But as stated previously this is a pointless topic.

[bucknuts09]

I would say I have not seen a player like Kayser in a very long time! Kid can do almost everything. Plays non stop no plays off! Myles is definitely a very good point and leader, I knew he would be a stud when I seen him play Trey Robertson as a freshman, and gave him all he wanted and maybe then some!

[Bballlover1]

There are a lot of good duos in the area. This group of seniors in southeastern Ohio has been talked about for four years. So much talent ….So many excellent players. Some didn’t make it as far but great duos and great all around young men. Gonna be a big loss for a lot of schools next season.

[The Ghost of Swanker]

Aldridge would post Kayser up for 35 any night of the week. 3 inches taller and every bit of 80lbs heavier probably.

Myles would be at Duke or somewhere if he was 6’3

[val13]

Just speaking objectively, here are some final nuggets of information about the duo.

Montgomery finishes his career with 2137 career points (626 points / 23.2 per game average as a senior) and holds the all time scoring record at Minford.

Kayser finishes his career with 1455 career points (650 points / 24.1 per game average as a senior) and is 4th all time in scoring for Minford boys basketball.

[wobycat]

Aldridge would post Kayser up for 35 any night of the week. 3 inches taller and every bit of 80lbs heavier probably.

Myles would be at Duke or somewhere if he was 6’3

And kayser would beat Aldridge off the dribble at the top of the key or shoot over him.

[N2Hoops]

Aldridge would post Kayser up for 35 any night of the week. 3 inches taller and every bit of 80lbs heavier probably.

Myles would be at Duke or somewhere if he was 6’3

He wouldn’t because Shoemaker would guard him in the post, Aldridge game was mid range.

[Eugene 2011]

Aldridge would post Kayser up for 35 any night of the week. 3 inches taller and every bit of 80lbs heavier probably.

Myles would be at Duke or somewhere if he was 6’3

He wouldn’t because Shoemaker would guard him in the post, Aldridge game was mid range.

Aldridge would put up 25 with shoemaker and Kayser double teaming him

[avalanche]

Aldridge would post Kayser up for 35 any night of the week. 3 inches taller and every bit of 80lbs heavier probably.

Myles would be at Duke or somewhere if he was 6’3

He wouldn’t because Shoemaker would guard him in the post, Aldridge game was mid range.

Aldridge would put up 25 with shoemaker and Kayser double teaming him

Yeah, I believe most didn't see the Aldridge play. Not to mention Burleson and Holden from Wheelersburg were better than Kayser by a mile too.

I would have loved to see this Minford team have to play the Ironton and Chesapeake teams of 04-05 when they were #2 and #3 in the state. Both imo were better, not to mention many of the Final Four teams that have come out of the SEO region in the past 20+ years.

[wobycat]

He wouldn’t because Shoemaker would guard him in the post, Aldridge game was mid range.

Aldridge would put up 25 with shoemaker and Kayser double teaming him

Yeah, I believe most didn't see the Aldridge play. Not to mention Burleson and Holden from Wheelersburg were better than Kayser by a mile too.

I would have loved to see this Minford team have to play the Ironton and Chesapeake teams of 04-05 when they were #2 and #3 in the state. Both imo were better, not to mention many of the Final Four teams that have come out of the SEO region in the past 20+ years.

Aldridge was the better player/prospect. But Kayser's numbers don't lie. Kid can ball. Very versatile. He's undersized. If he was Roberts size, he's D1.

[The Ghost of Swanker]

Aldridge would post Kayser up for 35 any night of the week. 3 inches taller and every bit of 80lbs heavier probably.

Myles would be at Duke or somewhere if he was 6’3

He wouldn’t because Shoemaker would guard him in the post, Aldridge game was mid range.

Nick could play anywhere. He was a bucket as soon as he crossed mid court.

[avalanche]

Aldridge would put up 25 with shoemaker and Kayser double teaming him

Yeah, I believe most didn't see the Aldridge play. Not to mention Burleson and Holden from Wheelersburg were better than Kayser by a mile too.

I would have loved to see this Minford team have to play the Ironton and Chesapeake teams of 04-05 when they were #2 and #3 in the state. Both imo were better, not to mention many of the Final Four teams that have come out of the SEO region in the past 20+ years.

Aldridge was the better player/prospect. But Kayser's numbers don't lie. Kid can ball. Very versatile. He's undersized. If he was Roberts size, he's D1.

You could say that about PJ Rase, Zac Carter, insert really good high school player who was undersized.

No one is saying he isn't really good, but there is a reason Aldridge went to Cincy, Holden went to Wright State/OSU, Burleson to Wright State. Those guys had it all.

[avalanche]

I would say I have not seen a player like Kayser in a very long time! Kid can do almost everything. Plays non stop no plays off! Myles is definitely a very good point and leader, I knew he would be a stud when I seen him play Trey Robertson as a freshman, and gave him all he wanted and maybe then some!

How long is a long time? Holden was what 7-8 years ago. He was a flat-out stud.

[SouthEast Hoops Fan]

Aldridge would put up 25 with shoemaker and Kayser double teaming him

Yeah, I believe most didn't see the Aldridge play. Not to mention Burleson and Holden from Wheelersburg were better than Kayser by a mile too.

I would have loved to see this Minford team have to play the Ironton and Chesapeake teams of 04-05 when they were #2 and #3 in the state. Both imo were better, not to mention many of the Final Four teams that have come out of the SEO region in the past 20+ years.

Aldridge was the better player/prospect. But Kayser's numbers don't lie. Kid can ball. Very versatile. He's undersized. If he was Roberts size, he's D1.

He is D-1 capable right now. Became more and more evident as the season progressed.

[Prime Time]

Daysa Reid and Sienna Allen from the State Champs Portsmouth Trojans! Don't say just boys!

[TheOHIOBully]

Kayser did get a D1 offer Air Force.
More kids than you know decide on lower than D1 that can play D1….I had a buddy who played football that got multiple D1 offers but wasn’t 100% paid for the 1st year….decided to get a full ride on a D2 team

[wobycat]

Daysa Reid and Sienna Allen from the State Champs Portsmouth Trojans! Don't say just boys!

It’s in the boys thread.