DII Logan Sectional

[93Bulldog]

Possible Voting
Logan Elm - Logan Elm, Fairfield Union, Sheridan
Athens - Athens, Vinton County,
Warren - Warren, Marietta, Gallia Academy
Wild Card - Who will New Lex vote? Team that they feel they match up best against after the 8/9 game?

Uh, take Gallia Academy off Warren's list seeing as Gallia Academy is not even in the sectional.
Meigs on the other hand is.

[bman]

Who will vote for who? I still wonder if Athens and Warren may vote for the other to ensure that they would not meet until districts. The 1 seed is not going to have a cake walk as the 4/5 game will produce quality opponents. Sheridan is likely the #4 and they are playing really well with back to back wins over a very good John Glenn team and Philo. Sheridan is very athletic, quality shooters, and well coached.
Possible Voting
Logan Elm - Logan Elm, Fairfield Union, Sheridan
Athens - Athens, Vinton County,
Warren - Warren, Marietta, Gallia Academy
Wild Card - Who will New Lex vote? Team that they feel they match up best against after the 8/9 game?

This seeding needs to change, teams have to start choosing where they want to go on the board. If teams could choose then they would be able to give their team the best option by playing teams that they feel they matchup better against.

I completely agree with that, with one carrot. We need to have one big district bracket per division that teams place themselves on. So that would be all 18 teams in Division II. I don't care for this sectional format, because we get weak sectionals - Athens in D3 in past years - where we have mediocre teams going to the Convo while much better teams are at home from the Jackson sectional in D3. It would also encourage tougher scheduling, so teams can't run up a record against patsies and get rewarded for it, because teams could jump on that team to play.

[93Bulldog]

Logan Elm is also better than that Logan Elm team Athens played in December.

Nope. No. Nope. No. Not a chance! Only 1 team can improve as the season progresses!!!!!

Sure every team improves. But given the fact Athens had 8 practices when it played LE - the differences I am seeing now is night and day. Not only that, Athens had to gel together 3 juniors, 2 sophomores, 1 freshman ... Logan Elm had the luxury of putting its same 5 juniors (from the district semi-finals last year) on the floor from day 1 this season.

The problem with people thinking the 8 days (practices) was enough for Athens to be ready don't realize how much of an impact those playoff football games had. Those kids got the crap beat out of them versus Tri-Valley - and definitely Marion Franklin - they were not even close to being in 'basketball shape' when the season begun. They weren't even close to being ready mentally or physically. Coach Skinner said it best on the radio show this week "we didn't start playing basketball until we went down to Florida around Christmas."

[93Bulldog]

This seeding needs to change, teams have to start choosing where they want to go on the board. If teams could choose then they would be able to give their team the best option by playing teams that they feel they matchup better against.

It wouldn't matter where you go - or CHOOSE to go - this year ... no matter how you slice it or dice it; only 2 teams are coming out of Logan. One of the three (Athens, Warren or Logan Elm) are not going to the Convo this year.

[Softball 7]

It wouldn't matter where you go - or CHOOSE to go - this year ... no matter how you slice it or dice it; only 2 teams are coming out of Logan. One of the three (Athens, Warren or Logan Elm) are not going to the Convo this year.[quote][/quote]

The bottom line is that enabling teams the opportunity to choose where to go allows them to be rewarded by giving them the opportunity to pick the best route possible for THEIR team instead of at the mercy of voting. The way things are done now, you are rewarded by scheduling weaker teams to give your team the best record, which 99% of the time is how teams vote. Especially after the first few are on the board. Warren and Athens both scheduled tougher opponents this year to prepare themselves for the tournament and they should be rewarded for that by having the opportunity to pick the route that best fits their style and personnel. I have heard that all other districts in the state are giving their teams choices.

[Raider6309]

I see Athens voting for warren, VC is the tough one. I see them voting for Logan elm because they can match up with them. Warren and Athens can pound it inside

[93Bulldog]

I see Athens voting for warren, VC is the tough one. I see them voting for Logan elm because they can match up with them. Warren and Athens can pound it inside

It all depends on how the voting shakes out ... the 1 seed will be up for grabs first, if they start the voting process with "W" and end with "A" - you can bet 'your-you-know-what' that if it comes to Athens or Warren coach Skinner will be voting for Athens.

People just think you can pick and choose when you want to vote - or pick what seed 'you want to be' on the board. There is a process to it all, and that process dictates the seeding as much as anything.

[WarriorBlue]

I see Athens voting for warren, VC is the tough one. I see them voting for Logan elm because they can match up with them. Warren and Athens can pound it inside

It all depends on how the voting shakes out ... the 1 seed will be up for grabs first, if they start the voting process with "W" and end with "A" - you can bet 'your-you-know-what' that if it comes to Athens or Warren coach Skinner will be voting for Athens.

People just think you can pick and choose when you want to vote - or pick what seed 'you want to be' on the board. There is a process to it all, and that process dictates the seeding as much as anything.

I'm betting b4 they walk into that room the deal will have already been done. The process is a formality but because the results will be negotiated b4 the 1st vote is cast. Just like they do in Congress. Lol
Whatever the end result I'm sure there will plenty of rigorous debate afterwards!

[93Bulldog]

You said I should have a radio show Sunday WarriorBlue ... How about a T.V. show - and make it just like Survivor ... Each coach comes up in front of the camera and has his vote written on a card, just like in the show at tribal counsel ... and even better yet, have the camera follow them all week to see what kind of 'deals' are being made ... LOL

It seriously is just about the same thing ... its a high stakes game of poker, and either Maddox (W) or Skinner (A) will be the last to either 'play' its hand or 'fold'.

[WarriorBlue]

93Dog I'm still thinking the TVC, Warren. & Marietta can control the vote if they hang together. Get a little something for everybody. I'm sure that's a possibility but of couse you can ALWAYS get that "fly" in the ointment lol

[93Bulldog]

93Dog I'm still thinking the TVC, Warren. & Marietta can control the vote if they hang together.

The TVC and MVL (New Lex and Sheridan) can control the vote if they hang together as well, WarriorBlue.

The possibilities are endless ... LOL ... I should have followed these coaches around the last month so I could write a book on this subject after Sunday.

I know one thing, if you are the 'minority' you probably want to side with the 'majority' to benefit your own needs - that's how democracy works in the world today. The only majority is the TVC, so I can imagine they all of sudden became Mr. popular and everyone wants to be 'friends' with them now. It's kind of like a Nascar race at Daytona, every crew chief is trying to make a deal to 'draft' with the fastest cars in the field.

Of course this is all speculation and crap basically - there may be no friends in that room and it's a complete free-for-all ... just like the last lap at Daytona!

[Whs95fan]

I know last year someone did a live radio stream from Logan, will anyone be this year?

[93Bulldog]

I know last year someone did a live radio stream from Logan, will anyone be this year?

I may go down and post results as soon as they come out of the rooms. Probably first on the WATHsportsfan twitter page - then copy and paste it onto preps.

[Dundas]

VC wins two road games this weekend to move to 10-6. Marietta lost tonight, so I think VC should get the 5 seed which after staring the season 3-4, is a pretty good accomplishment. The Vikings finish with Gallia, Wellston and Meigs next week and should be favored in all 3. VC could end up 13-6 and on a 5 game winning streak going in to sectional play.

Imo..
1. Logan Elm
2. Warren
3. Athens
4. Sheridan
5. Vinton Co
6. Marietta
7. Fairfield Union
8. Meigs
9. New Lexington

[93Bulldog]

VC wins two road games this weekend to move to 10-6. Marietta lost tonight, so I think VC should get the 5 seed which after staring the season 3-4, is a pretty good accomplishment. The Vikings finish with Gallia, Wellston and Meigs next week and should be favored in all 3. VC could end up 13-6 and on a 5 game winning streak going in to sectional play.

Imo..
1. Logan Elm
2. Warren
3. Athens
4. Sheridan
5. Vinton Co
6. Marietta
7. Fairfield Union
8. Meigs
9. New Lexington

Boooooooooo!

Nobody asked you for your opinion, Dundas ... lol

[Dundas]

You're just upset about VC beating your favorite team tonight bulldog.

Besides, you know Dundas is always right!

[thill2010]

Logan Elm is now 17-1 and will be the 1 seed

[93Bulldog]

Logan Elm is now 17-1 and will be the 1 seed

With it being so close, why do you think the TVC teams (Athens, Meigs, Vinton County) ... plus Warren and Marietta will vote for Logan Elm?

The other 4 votes will not be enough ... if the 5 teams above vote Warren, the Braves will not be the #1 seed.

[thill2010]

Warren and Athens both play in weak leagues and Logan Elm plays in a tough MSL where anything can happen on any given night

[thill2010]

The seeding shouldn't come down to which school votes for who, it should come down to win-loss record