Waverly at Eastern (Pike) 01-30-21

[GoAt 10]

Rumor is the said player asked to play JV only. Such a waste as he would be top 2-3 player on their varsity team. Program is in a bad place and look for a lot of change to come by next winter!

My opinion, they made the jump to SOC2 at a terrible time. Being D4, and having some down classes, they really should have stayed in SOC1.

[GoAt 10]

Also, they had another starter not even come out this year. The older McBee kid started some as a freshman and didn’t play this year. He’s a 6’1 (ish) athletic kid who would have definitely helped. Hopefully he comes back out next year.

[greygoose]

Also, they had another starter not even come out this year. The older McBee kid started some as a freshman and didn’t play this year. He’s a 6’1 (ish) athletic kid who would have definitely helped. Hopefully he comes back out next year.

Yeah I heard he didn't come out, which was a big loss, surprising about the Carter boy but my guess is he wanted a better shot at winning in JV, instead of getting run out of the gym most nights. I have heard there's probably changes on the horizon because certain ppl want out. School officials wanting certain kids to play against better competition and this is one of the reasons they moved it doesn't make any sense and it's being proven that way as they weren't anywhere near ready nor will they be. Not when younger groups are not coming out, and kids are transferring in JR high. Some say well it'll make them better for the tournament though, really winning 3-5 games and being seeded so low you play the top teams is helping?? Feel bad for them and all the other sports it effected, this was simply a short sided decision. How is baseball supposed to compete??

[art_vandelay]

Also, they had another starter not even come out this year. The older McBee kid started some as a freshman and didn’t play this year. He’s a 6’1 (ish) athletic kid who would have definitely helped. Hopefully he comes back out next year.

Yeah I heard he didn't come out, which was a big loss, surprising about the Carter boy but my guess is he wanted a better shot at winning in JV, instead of getting run out of the gym most nights. I have heard there's probably changes on the horizon because certain ppl want out. School officials wanting certain kids to play against better competition and this is one of the reasons they moved it doesn't make any sense and it's being proven that way as they weren't anywhere near ready nor will they be. Not when younger groups are not coming out, and kids are transferring in JR high. Some say well it'll make them better for the tournament though, really winning 3-5 games and being seeded so low you play the top teams is helping?? Feel bad for them and all the other sports it effected, this was simply a short sided decision. How is baseball supposed to compete??

Yeah, the move to SOC II hasn’t been great for Eastern. A move back to SOC I could be easily accomplished with their football already there, but would Eastern want to make that move so soon, or see how things play out next few years?*

[The Ghost of Swanker]

How does a kid get away with asking to play JV only if he’s clearly a top 5 kid in the gym during practice?

[bbjunky81]

How does a kid get away with asking to play JV only if he’s clearly a top 5 kid in the gym during practice?

Because he's clearly not a top 5 kid, especially in practice.

I'd imagine it's a family member or close friend posting that stuff.

If he was good enough to play significant varsity minutes then he would have when he had the opportunity. Keep in mind none of us are in practice every day to know how he performs there.

I think Lockery has done fine with what he's had. Quite frankly there's hardly any talent there (not for SOC 2 standards). Now they're a small school in a big boy conference with little to no talent. I don't know the kid who didn't play but if he "didn't play because he doesn't like the coach," well, that says plenty. If basketball meant enough to someone, they'd play. I've never quite understood people that are totally fine with a kid not playing because they "don't like the coach." Simply put ---- basketball must not have meant that much too them. But times are different now and I've accepted that.

Assuming he wants out, leaves, or is forced out, Coach Lockery would be a fine addition to any staff in the area.

[greygoose]

How does a kid get away with asking to play JV only if he’s clearly a top 5 kid in the gym during practice?

Because he's clearly not a top 5 kid, especially in practice.

I'd imagine it's a family member or close friend posting that stuff.

If he was good enough to play significant varsity minutes then he would have when he had the opportunity. Keep in mind none of us are in practice every day to know how he performs there.

I think Lockery has done fine with what he's had. Quite frankly there's hardly any talent there (not for SOC 2 standards). Now they're a small school in a big boy conference with little to no talent. I don't know the kid who didn't play but if he "didn't play because he doesn't like the coach," well, that says plenty. If basketball meant enough to someone, they'd play. I've never quite understood people that are totally fine with a kid not playing because they "don't like the coach." Simply put ---- basketball must not have meant that much too them. But times are different now and I've accepted that.

Assuming he wants out, leaves, or is forced out, Coach Lockery would be a fine addition to any staff in the area.

So he played as much as he did last year, they lost the Cochenour boy and McBee didn't play this year and there's 1 freshman guard on varsity and something in your rationale suggest he can't play on varsity this year?? They have minimal size at best and struggle rebounding from the couple games I seen, sorry but you're off base, is he top 5 I have no idea but he's easily a contributor off the bench. Not sure how it all unfolded but to contribute as much as he did last year and they didn't add anyone in his size and they lost guys to try and say he can't this year is laughable.

[greygoose]

Also, they had another starter not even come out this year. The older McBee kid started some as a freshman and didn’t play this year. He’s a 6’1 (ish) athletic kid who would have definitely helped. Hopefully he comes back out next year.

Yeah I heard he didn't come out, which was a big loss, surprising about the Carter boy but my guess is he wanted a better shot at winning in JV, instead of getting run out of the gym most nights. I have heard there's probably changes on the horizon because certain ppl want out. School officials wanting certain kids to play against better competition and this is one of the reasons they moved it doesn't make any sense and it's being proven that way as they weren't anywhere near ready nor will they be. Not when younger groups are not coming out, and kids are transferring in JR high. Some say well it'll make them better for the tournament though, really winning 3-5 games and being seeded so low you play the top teams is helping?? Feel bad for them and all the other sports it effected, this was simply a short sided decision. How is baseball supposed to compete??

Yeah, the move to SOC II hasn’t been great for Eastern. A move back to SOC I could be easily accomplished with their football already there, but would Eastern want to make that move so soon, or see how things play out next few years?*

No idea how that stuff works, if they're locked into staying SOCII for so many years. Guessing with schedules being set up a year or 2 they couldn't just say ok we need out it would take couple years to pull off at least.

[SWHITE2002]

I believe they just had a league meeting a couple weeks ago and I only heard of two possible changes.
Northwest didn't apply to stay down in SOC1 Football because they knew they would be made to move, so they go back to SOC2 either next year or the year after and South Gallia applied for SOC1 in I beleve all sports.

There was a post earlier blaming Barrick for the Eastern move to SOC2, from what I was told that is false. Barrick was against it and that was a big factor in his leaving. He even coached some of the sophomores and freshmen in AAU, so he knew what was coming. The administration made the move not him.

I think Lockery is a good coach. He was well liked at Waverly and plays a fun style. Does it mesh with Eastern's talent, maybe not? But I agree with the other poster, players not playing because they don't like the coach is a growing problem, whether that's the case here or not

[greygoose]

I believe they just had a league meeting a couple weeks ago and I only heard of two possible changes.
Northwest didn't apply to stay down in SOC1 Football because they knew they would be made to move, so they go back to SOC2 either next year or the year after and South Gallia applied for SOC1 in I beleve all sports.

There was a post earlier blaming Barrick for the Eastern move to SOC2, from what I was told that is false. Barrick was against it and that was a big factor in his leaving. He even coached some of the sophomores and freshmen in AAU, so he knew what was coming. The administration made the move not him.

I think Lockery is a good coach. He was well liked at Waverly and plays a fun style. Does it mesh with Eastern's talent, maybe not? But I agree with the other poster, players not playing because they don't like the coach is a growing problem, whether that's the case here or not

That's good on Northwest part to acknowledge that and just roll with it. Yeah, Barrick wanted nothing to do with it, it's one of the reasons he left, he was losing all his talent and the school put them in a even worse position with no regards to the other sports. Lockery took over a situation that no one wanted anything to do with unfortunately for him he found out the hard way.

[SWHITE2002]

After Barrick left coaches weren't beating the door down to apply. In fact I was told from a good source really noone qualified wanted it. This guy stepped up and took the job. He should be given a chance

[Richard Noggin]

I believe they just had a league meeting a couple weeks ago and I only heard of two possible changes.
Northwest didn't apply to stay down in SOC1 Football because they knew they would be made to move, so they go back to SOC2 either next year or the year after and South Gallia applied for SOC1 in I beleve all sports.

There was a post earlier blaming Barrick for the Eastern move to SOC2, from what I was told that is false. Barrick was against it and that was a big factor in his leaving. He even coached some of the sophomores and freshmen in AAU, so he knew what was coming. The administration made the move not him.

I think Lockery is a good coach. He was well liked at Waverly and plays a fun style. Does it mesh with Eastern's talent, maybe not? But I agree with the other poster, players not playing because they don't like the coach is a growing problem, whether that's the case here or not

Northwest goes back in 2023 is what I'm being told.

[greygoose]

After Barrick left coaches weren't beating the door down to apply. In fact I was told from a good source really noone qualified wanted it. This guy stepped up and took the job. He should be given a chance

Yeah that was a pretty well known fact no well qualified coach wanted the position, the cupboard was bare and being moved up to SOCII. I don't know about stepping up and taking the job, he applied for it so he wanted the position. If nothing else it does give him a head coaching title on the resume.

[Westfan]

West played them again last night. I don't know why the other players don't play, but the ones that do play hard and look like they are well organized. But honestly outside of Leist, they really don't have anything more than roll players. You can't expect to them to be winning in this league