Jackson @ Chillicothe 1-22-08

[Army]

:?: is their any truth to chilly running up the score?

NO....They played there whole complete bench. As a matter of fact, a larger percentage of points came at the end of the 4th period when several 3's were hit by the 3rd stringers, playing against Jackson's 1st string. So if I see that start on here, all I would say is....the score would not be 104-40, it would of been something like 130-26. Coach K played the complete bench. Period

Chilly was still shooting three's with that big of a lead?????

Sure, you're not going to tell the kids to stop playing hard, but shooting three's!!!!!

Just remember, what goes around comes around.

Blah...Blah.....Blah.....What was you saying sour grapes? Why don't you tell your friends that Football is not the only sport in the SEOAL.....Welcome to reality. And stay tuned more to come

[Army]

wow! someone needs drug tested........coocoo for cocoa puffs

bronc21,

Consider the source.....Wheelersburg Fan? Didn't we defeat the Pirates something like, by 26 at there gym? Sounds like jealousy and sour grapes. Maybe some Teams in the SEOAL will recognize that there is more than Football in this League. Two, They ought to thank Zanesville for deciding to leave. Three, I didn't know Wheelersburg was so concerned with our SEOAL. Hmmmmmm.

They can't even beat Oak Hill.

Look yabbadabbadoo....they are a D2 School, that means they have more Boys than us. We are a D3 School. So my counter arguement is, why and where could they look elsewhere for talent to play for the Ironmen. Maybe there are issues, I don't know, or the kids are just plain not interested in coming out for B-Ball? Why?

No one ran up the score last night. If they wanted to do that, I am afraid the score might have been 130-20 something, instead of the 104-40 score.

GO CAVS

Roll Big Blue and White to Victory

[Out of Bounds]

Army, who the hell do you think you are. Everytime you beat a team you constantly remind everyone on here about. You might be the worst fan I have ever came across on here! Chillicothe has a GREAT team. I couldn't tell what there weakness is. But I have seen on some other post where your own fans tell you to shut up. You are a complete imbarassment to your school. It's cool that you support and defend your team. But anytime someone else defends their school it's jealousy or sour grapes and trying to rub their nose in it. The majority on here are positive people and realize it's about the kids and the effort and sportsmanship they give. And a lot of us get on here and try to be coaches from the bleaches and analyze everthing that we see happen during a game. But your main agenda seems to be gloating and bashing every comment made about a past, present or future opponent that the Cavs have. I hope the Cavs win the State. It makes the whole league look good. But god forbid if they do.....everybody will have to quit the Preps because they won't be able to read anything without being reminded of it!

[Army]

Army, who the hell do you think you are. Everytime you beat a team you constantly remind everyone on here about. You might be the worst fan I have ever came across on here! Chillicothe has a GREAT team. I couldn't tell what there weakness is. But I have seen on some other post where your own fans tell you to shut up. You are a complete imbarassment to your school. It's cool that you support and defend your team. But anytime someone else defends their school it's jealousy or sour grapes and trying to rub their nose in it. The majority on here are positive people and realize it's about the kids and the effort and sportsmanship they give. And a lot of us get on here and try to be coaches from the bleaches and analyze everthing that we see happen during a game. But your main agenda seems to be gloating and bashing every comment made about a past, present or future opponent that the Cavs have. I hope the Cavs win the State. It makes the whole league look good. But god forbid if they do.....everybody will have to quit the Preps because they won't be able to read anything without being reminded of it!

Hey whinner......I mean out of bounds,

The accusation was about our CAVS running up the score against Jackson. Which was not true. I was there and watched Coach K play his whole bench. If you don't like the response then ask people to quit making accusations against our CAVS. Now I take it you must be a Jackson fan that has to revert to cursing and again making a blanket statement. Well didn't something like that happen at the end of the Classic the other day.

I will defend my kids school, the Chillicothe CAVS, I did not say anything bad, and if you can't take the heat or handle it, stay out of the kitchen

You have a great and blessed day Out of Bounds

Army

GO CAVS

Roll Big Blue and White to Victory

[rivercat]

I agree with Free Throw. The 2nd and 3rd stringers work hard in practice for their opportunity and it is their chance to showcase what they can do. If anything they have more incentive to play hard than the 1st stringers they are replacing. I can understand not pressing a team with backups when you have a large lead, but when you're a backup who gets little playing time and you get an open three TAKE IT ! Good luck Cavaliers against Zanesville, and hang in there Jackson.

[yabbadabbadoo]

Look yabbadabbadoo....they are a D2 School, that means they have more Boys than us. We are a D3 School. So my counter arguement is, why and where could they look elsewhere for talent to play for the Ironmen. Maybe there are issues, I don't know, or the kids are just plain not interested in coming out for B-Ball? Why?

This statement here my friend shows just how big of a moron you are. Last time I checked in the polls, Chilly is a Div. II school, not a DIII. Get a clue my man and why do you have such a woody over chilly beating the Burg this year. Didn't Burg beat chilly last year, at chilly? Yes they did. Jealousy? Sour grapes? R U serious!!!!!! Everyone in Burg knew that that game was going to be a tough one, especially with it being played so close to the start of the season. Burg had just come off the playoffs in football and were not ready for a game against a team the caliber of chilly. Do I think it would be a closer game if they played now? Sure do. Would chilly win the game? More than likely, but I'd guarantee you it wouldn't be by 26 points.

Yeah, I'm a big time Burg fan and in 30+ years of watching Pirate basketball, I've never, ever seen them beat a team by 60 or more points. Wouldn't happen on a Tom Barrick coached team because he has a little something called class and he would never show up the other coach like that. I think I read somewhere else that Jackson only has 7 players on the team right now and they are very young. Way to go chilly. Beat a team by 64 when they are down.


Here you go Army. This is for you. Saw your little post on the Burg-Northwest thread.














GOOD LUCK ZANESVILLE

[observer]

Army,
The reason Wheelersburg can't beat Oak Hill is the reason Jackson is struggling this year. The three best returning players to Jackson this year all play for someone else...two of them on Oak Hill.

[yabbadabbadoo]

Burg will gladly stay in the SOC II and continue to make the playoffs in football year after year. Stay in the SEOAL, keep losing like you have been and come and watch the Burg in the football playoffs year after year.
Why would they even entertain the thought of joining a league that they have to travel 3+ hours for some of the games. Would not be a smart move. Ironton and Portsmouth are not starting to realize that and will more than likely be exiting the league in the next few years.

Like observer wrote, Jackson lost three of there players, two of them being starters at Oak Hill. Those two would have definetly made a difference for Jackson this year.

Oh, by the way, let me now how you all do against Oak Hill the second round..

Once again, this is you not having a clue. The Burg played Oak Hill last friday night and beat them by 13. Oak Hill, like chilly just happened to catch the Pirates at the right time this year. They held the Oaks to a measly 33 points in the game.

[Army]

yabbadabbadoo

Good for your Pirates...I hope you worry more about them than our CAVS

Yeah we could be in the football playoffs every year to, if our league consisted of Minford, Valley and NW, nothing against there respected programs, they are rural schools unlike yours. That being said, you only play two competitions in the SOC II, that being Waverly and PW. Ironton has your number more than you do there school, and Portsmouth also does. It seems that Johnson Central, KY does too...YUK YUK

We see Ironton up here already gone, but Portsmouth doesn't follow there lead, they like the SEOAL. Why won't you all let them in the SOC II...it only seems right, BOC BOC's

All talk but afraid to let real competition into your little River League huh

How many times has your SOC II said no to Portsmouth

As usual, NOTHING BUT SMACK....even on our CAV Basketball threads.

ARMY

GO CAVS

[baller3]

yabadaba, Seriously? The Starters on played a total of 17 minutes. That is basically 2 quarters. I understand the score was lopsided but for you to make that statement is crazy. Again, the starting 5 played 17 minutes. That statement makes me laugh when the 2nd and 3rd stringers played 1/2 the game. Hahahahahaha, You're funny.

[Army]

yabadaba, Seriously? The Starters on played a total of 17 minutes. That is basically 2 quarters. I understand the score was lopsided but for you to make that statement is crazy. Again, the starting 5 played 17 minutes. That statement makes me laugh when the 2nd and 3rd stringers played 1/2 the game. Hahahahahaha, You're funny.

baller3,

Thank You

[Hitchbone64]

yabbadabbadouchebag....you shoot when you are open, whether its a layup or a 3. you dont owe the other team that much to take a dribble in and make sure you shoot a 2.

You know what, I had this big long post wrote out but decided not to post it. You guys have a very nice team and if you think you need to embarrass every team you play and beat them by 30-40 points, then so be it.

I just know that if I was the coach and I was winning by 30 or more and my team was shooting nothing but three's, I would call a timeout and tell them to cool it and to just hold the ball. There is a time and place to work on your three point shot. In a 64 point victory is not it. JMO

Good luck Cavs the rest of the season!!!!!!!

yabba, I deal in facts and not in emotion, so here are the facts.

Our bench shot a whopping total of five (5) 3 pointers in 2 plus quarters of play. They happened to hit three (3) of them. Not sure where you got your info, but the benches two (2) pg field goals were as follows:

15/30 2 pt fg 50%
3/5 3 pt fg 60%
1/4 FT 25%

We sure were launching the 3 ball in 2 plus quarters. Jackson played a very packed in 2-3 zone all game. The looks were there, but our second team probably runs the offense better then the 1st team. Therefore, they look for layups and easier shots. We are not a 3-ball team.

GO CAVS!!!

[ironman02]

Just wanted to clarify what observer posted. I was discussing why Jackson's numbers are down with bronc21 last night, so I wanted to explain.

Jackson did lose Ryan Borden and Kyle Ondera to Oak Hill in the off-season. Patrick Dill and his family also moved away. That's why Jackson's roster only started with 9 players at the beginning of this season. Since then, they have lost two others, leaving the varsity team with only 7 players at this time.

I'm glad that observer brought this up because it shows, even more, the type of struggle this team has gone through as of late.

And before anyone misinterprets this, I'm not making excuses. Just following through on what I was discussing last night with bronc21.

[Hitchbone64]

^^^^^^

Ironman,

I know you are not making excuses, but if anyone deserves one, it is the kids at Jackson. They have no depth and it hurts as kids have to play up, thereby hurting the JV and Frosh as well. Having only a handful of kids makes it hard 1) To practice and 2) even if you can practice to really push your starters to where they need to be.

Good Luck to the Ironmen the rest of the year!

[yabbadabbadoo]

:?: is their any truth to chilly running up the score?

NO....They played there whole complete bench. As a matter of fact, a larger percentage of points came at the end of the 4th period when several 3's were hit by the 3rd stringers, playing against Jackson's 1st string. So if I see that start on here, all I would say is....the score would not be 104-40, it would of been something like 130-26. Coach K played the complete bench. Period

This is where I got my information from. None other then good ol' army who was gloating about the fact that "several" three pointers had been hit in the 4th qtr.

It looks like he was wrong, so therefore I apologize to all of the Cav faithful. It looks like that Jackson just ran out of gas at the end and that Chilly's 2nd and 3rd teams are very good.

[Hitchbone64]

^^^^^

yabba,

I missed Army's quote through all the blue...lol...It did seem like it was raining threes because these kids usually are not shooting them. These kids probably play some of the best "garbage time" ball, I have seen in a long time. I effectively run their sets and look for each other. The zone just forced some jumpers that happened to go down.

Also, the "emotion" statement I meant, was in general, not at you. Sometimes, "we" all get excited on here.

GO CAVS!!!

[Army]

GO CAVS

[ji81grad]

I was there, following my poor unathletic kid, and Chilli didn't intentionally run it up. The 2nd and 3rd teamers played well, but then again as Army posted "against Jackson's 1st teamers" who were absolutely worn out.

We did finally post Merlin up inside with moderate success. He needs more time to gain confidence as he got one shot blocked and missed a couple others based on lack of confidence.

Dobbins struggled with fatigue and didn't score in the 1st half.

They never quit, showed class, and played until the final buzzer with what they had left. You can't always be the best, but can always give your all.

Officiating was interesting. If I were a Cav 2nd or 3rd teamer I would cry foul. They got called for things the 1st team didn't, consistently. It was like watching an umpire make the rookie touch the bag on the double play but letting the veteran sail by. <This is not a complaint, rather an outside observation.

[Army]

I was there, following my poor unathletic kid, and Chilli didn't intentionally run it up. The 2nd and 3rd teamers played well, but then again as Army posted "against Jackson's 1st teamers" who were absolutely worn out.

We did finally post Merlin up inside with moderate success. He needs more time to gain confidence as he got one shot blocked and missed a couple others based on lack of confidence.

Dobbins struggled with fatigue and didn't score in the 1st half.

They never quit, showed class, and played until the final buzzer with what they had left. You can't always be the best, but can always give your all.

Officiating was interesting. If I were a Cav 2nd or 3rd teamer I would cry foul. They got called for things the 1st team didn't, consistently. It was like watching an umpire make the rookie touch the bag on the double play but letting the veteran sail by. <This is not a complaint, rather an outside observation.

I agree

The part about our 2nd and 3rd stringers playing against your 1st string, was not a smerk, but a point made to a few from Wheelersburg coming on here and making blanket statements that we were running up the score. Then running there motor trap stating what there coach would do in that situation blah..blah...blah. Some saying we were keeping our 1st string in to long, etc, etc.

I have applauded the heart and spirit your kids showed last night from Jackson at the Hatton. They did not quit and they continued to play as a team. By the way....was you wearing a sweatshirt with Jackson Wrestling on it and wearing a baseball cap with glasses on last night in the visitor bleachers

Good Luck the rest of the way

ARMY

[Hitchbone64]

I was there, following my poor unathletic kid, and Chilli didn't intentionally run it up. The 2nd and 3rd teamers played well, but then again as Army posted "against Jackson's 1st teamers" who were absolutely worn out.

We did finally post Merlin up inside with moderate success. He needs more time to gain confidence as he got one shot blocked and missed a couple others based on lack of confidence.

Dobbins struggled with fatigue and didn't score in the 1st half.

They never quit, showed class, and played until the final buzzer with what they had left. You can't always be the best, but can always give your all.

Officiating was interesting. If I were a Cav 2nd or 3rd teamer I would cry foul. They got called for things the 1st team didn't, consistently. It was like watching an umpire make the rookie touch the bag on the double play but letting the veteran sail by. <This is not a complaint, rather an outside observation.

ji81grad,

I trust you found a good seat in our empty gym. I won't start on that. As for the stripes, they have been pretty much inconsistent. I thought they would let the 2nd/3rd teams play, but they blew every whistle. One exception has to be noted. Seth Dawes (#32) got a charge when the Jackson player was way under the hoops (questionable but I will accept). Ronnie Smith (off the bench) runs through a poor Jackson kids standing in the middle of the lane (in position), gets ran over and they call a block. I am still scratching my head.

Then again, I wouldn't go out and call the games. I just get on them all the time.

GO CAVS!!!