Whats the RECORDS for DIV IV Wellston???Predictions on seeds

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mercerville monster wrote:
If South Gallia would spend as much time trying to upgrade their schedule, as they do trying to sell their team and results on SEOP then maybe they would gain a higher seed when the tournament draw comes around...Nothing personal just my opinion.


"mercerville monster wrote:I am not concerned with our schedule or our seeding.

It sure sounds like it........and another individual on this site has been lobbying for a higher seed for about a month!


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1.Oak Hill
2.Southern
3.Waterford
4.Eastern (Beaver)
5.Eastern(Reedsville)
6.South Gallia
7.Trimble
8.Ironton St Joes
9.Symmes Valley
10.Miller

8.Ironton St Joes vs 9.Symmes Valley
VS 1.Oak Hill

4.Eastern vs 5.Eastern

3.Waterford vs South Gallia

7.Trimble vs 10.Miller
vs 2.Southern


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EasternDspy wrote:1.Oak Hill
2.Southern
3.Waterford
4.Eastern (Beaver)
5.Eastern(Reedsville)
6.South Gallia
7.Trimble
8.Ironton St Joes
9.Symmes Valley
10.Miller

8.Ironton St Joes vs 9.Symmes Valley
VS 1.Oak Hill


4.Eastern vs 5.Eastern

3.Waterford vs South Gallia

7.Trimble vs 10.Miller
vs 2.Southern


Interesting list.

Why would you put South gallia over Trimble? Why llist Waterford over Eastern Pike?

I just don't get the TVC bias. I have seen several of these teams play while checking out Southern (Caldwell is a former Eagle) and I'm telling you the TVC is not that strong top to bottom. Southern, Waterford, and Trimble are all pretty good and E. Reedsville is young but improved. Other than that, the teams are very poor. Eastern Pike would be right there competing for the TVC championship the same way they are the SOC if they were in this league......just ask Caldwell from Southern.


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Trust me the TVC coaches will stick together in this draw.It dont matter who should be ranked higher the coaches will back each other up.


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It sure sounds like it........and another individual on this site has been lobbying for a higher seed for about a month!


Where in my post does it seem like I am wanting to get a higher seed? And all I said about our schedule were the remarks abouth the Christian Schools. I stand by those remarks I made. And some of you Eastern Pike fans complaining about our schedule is like us saying it is unfair because your kids get more time in the gym because 98% of our players play football. Its a ridiculous comment, but that is how we feel when people crack on our schedule year after year.

And if he was lobbying for a higher seed why would he do it on here? I dont think anyone on this thread has a vote in the Sectional so if he convinces people on here or not does not matter! I think the intent of this thread was to see where people thought certain teams would end up but when some people teams wasnt where they thought they should be they got a little fired up..

Of course there is seeds I would like to see the Rebels get and there are some seeds I would like to see us not get. But no matter where we end up, I guarantee we will show heart and fight until the end.


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mercerville monster wrote:
It sure sounds like it........and another individual on this site has been lobbying for a higher seed for about a month!


Where in my post does it seem like I am wanting to get a higher seed? And all I said about our schedule were the remarks abouth the Christian Schools. I stand by those remarks I made. And some of you Eastern Pike fans complaining about our schedule is like us saying it is unfair because your kids get more time in the gym because 98% of our players play football. Its a ridiculous comment, but that is how we feel when people crack on our schedule year after year.

And if he was lobbying for a higher seed why would he do it on here? I dont think anyone on this thread has a vote in the Sectional so if he convinces people on here or not does not matter! I think the intent of this thread was to see where people thought certain teams would end up but when some people teams wasnt where they thought they should be they got a little fired up..

Of course there is seeds I would like to see the Rebels get and there are some seeds I would like to see us not get. But no matter where we end up, I guarantee we will show heart and fight until the end.


I have no idea why he would lobby on this site, but has for awhile now,go back through and read the posts!As for the schedule comments.....a South Gallia coach gets on here and says Eastern Pike should be a 5 seed because of there weak schedule,then turns around and says SG should be seeded higher than a 7-6 Trimble team!Come on!Trimble plays a much tougher schedule than SG so he is contridicting himself! And SG does not have there schedule handed to them.....they are not forced to play 5 or 6 games vs christian schools every year! 1 or 2 is understaning since your not in a league but 5? That is just 5 easy wins every year!How about calling Wellston?Why not Belpre?How about Galla Academy?There are teams to schedule besides these schools!

I have no idea where you were going with the football comment.

I agree SG will probably play hard against whoever they draw!

If you go back and look at the posts,this started with certain people taking shots at Eastern Pike's schedule which is just as tough as anybody's in this sectional! That is why people got defensive!


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We play 3 Christian schools in total resulting in 4 games. Out of 20 games, that is not bad. You might wanna check your sources. If you notice, we play all but one of the Christian school games when most teams are in league play. How do you schedule a team when they are playing teams in their own league? We have no problem getting teams the first half of the year, it is the second half when league play is going on. That is why we have to play the christian schools and that is when we play them.

All of that is the AD's job and that is surely a job that I would not want. Just think of all the games you would have to schedule for all of the sports? You have no league so no guaranteed games.

If we was allowed in the SOC we would not have this problem, it just seems 2 or 3 schools think it wouldnt be a good idea for us to be added into their league.


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I have no idea why he would lobby on this site, but has for awhile now,go back through and read the posts!As for the schedule comments.....a South Gallia coach gets on here and says Eastern Pike should be a 5 seed because of there weak schedule,then turns around and says SG should be seeded higher than a 7-6 Trimble team!Come on!Trimble plays a much tougher schedule than SG so he is contridicting himself! And SG does not have there schedule handed to them.....they are not forced to play 5 or 6 games vs christian schools every year! 1 or 2 is understaning since your not in a league but 5? That is just 5 easy wins every year!How about calling Wellston?Why not Belpre?How about Galla Academy?There are teams to schedule besides these schools!


I have news for you. Every school only has to schedule 6-8 games every year because the other 12-14 games on their schedule are league games. That leaves schools with very few games to play non-conference schools. South Gallia has to find 20 games every year. Its hard to burn bridges when these teams are nice enough to play us. We have been trying to get in the SOC for awhile and that would solve these problems. Beaver is a good team. The SOC 1 is down this year. The overall non-conference record of all these schools in the SOC 1 are bad. How do you know we haven't contacted these schools? We have upgraded our schedule every year. We used to only play Rock Hill one time and we play them twice now. We added East this year and New Boston twice a year or so ago. We used to play Teays Valley Christian and OVC 2 times and now we only play once. Wheelersburg played Crosslanes Christian, Fed Hock played OVC last year, and ETC.

Four Years ago we played a higher seeded Symmes Valley team in the tourney. We beat them(with our bad schedule) and then had to face an even higher seeded Reedsville Eastern team in the finals and beat them. Went on to play a State team in South Webster and lost by 12 points.(Not bad for a state qualifier)

Three years ago we played a 2nd seeded Trimble team to advance to the district and were a huge underdog especially with our weak schedule. Trimble never had the lead one time that whole game. Again we got beat in District by State Champions South Webster.

Last year we started out 0-11 for the year. Improved so much and winning 7 of the last 8. We went in overtime with a reigional qualifier in Waterford. We missed a 8 foot jumper to beat them as time expired.

This year we have turned an early poor record into winning 6 of the last eight. Its nots lobbying we are playing as good as any 5-10 seeded teams. Its not lobbying its the truth. We are playing better than Miller, Symmes Valley, St. Joe, and Trimble. then, I think we are playing as good as Beaver, Eastern, and Waterford. But, I still list us as a 6-7th seed. Thats a fair judgement!!!!!!Again, its only my opinion!!!


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How could the SOC do that?I assume you are referring to the SOC 1 and they already have 8 teams.That would mean playing 16 league games if SG joined!The SOC2 also has 8 teams so you could'nt move anyone around either!What about the TVC Hocking?


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How could the SOC do that?I assume you are referring to the SOC 1 and they already have 8 teams.That would mean playing 16 league games if SG joined!The SOC2 also has 8 teams so you could'nt move anyone around either!What about the TVC Hocking?


TVC Hocking has already been talked about but was decided that traveling would be a problem, especially the late nights we would be getting back from some of the games on school nights. I think if it came down to it again and this was talked through, I think SG would be voted into the SOC!


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Hounds,

Eastern lost to RV at RV. Also, Oak Hill has another win over RV. Played at Rio Grande.


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They have invited us in the TVC. We appreciated the invite but spring sports would be a problem with the travel time and the gas. SOC is the perfect fit. Some of the SOC 1 teams dont have football or some of the other sports. We wanted in for just football right now because we play a full SOC 1 football schedule anyways. Only thing they would have to do is put us in the standings. Then if a school closes or consolidates then we will step in their spot. We are building a new facility right now and will have one of the newest schools around. That should help!!!! New Boston doesnt have football and they cancelled their baseball team last year. They were rumors that they weren't going to make it. I hope they do but if not we could then step in the other sports. Thats what we are looking at!!!


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futurebkstar wrote:
I have no idea why he would lobby on this site, but has for awhile now,go back through and read the posts!As for the schedule comments.....a South Gallia coach gets on here and says Eastern Pike should be a 5 seed because of there weak schedule,then turns around and says SG should be seeded higher than a 7-6 Trimble team!Come on!Trimble plays a much tougher schedule than SG so he is contridicting himself! And SG does not have there schedule handed to them.....they are not forced to play 5 or 6 games vs christian schools every year! 1 or 2 is understaning since your not in a league but 5? That is just 5 easy wins every year!How about calling Wellston?Why not Belpre?How about Galla Academy?There are teams to schedule besides these schools!


I have news for you. Every school only has to schedule 6-8 games every year because the other 12-14 games on their schedule are league games. That leaves schools with very few games to play non-conference schools. South Gallia has to find 20 games every year. Its hard to burn bridges when these teams are nice enough to play us. We have been trying to get in the SOC for awhile and that would solve these problems. Beaver is a good team. The SOC 1 is down this year. The overall non-conference record of all these schools in the SOC 1 are bad. How do you know we haven't contacted these schools? We have upgraded our schedule every year. We used to only play Rock Hill one time and we play them twice now. We added East this year and New Boston twice a year or so ago. We used to play Teays Valley Christian and OVC 2 times and now we only play once. Wheelersburg played Crosslanes Christian, Fed Hock played OVC last year, and ETC.

Four Years ago we played a higher seeded Symmes Valley team in the tourney. We beat them(with our bad schedule) and then had to face an even higher seeded Reedsville Eastern team in the finals and beat them. Went on to play a State team in South Webster and lost by 12 points.(Not bad for a state qualifier)

Three years ago we played a 2nd seeded Trimble team to advance to the district and were a huge underdog especially with our weak schedule. Trimble never had the lead one time that whole game. Again we got beat in District by State Champions South Webster.

Last year we started out 0-11 for the year. Improved so much and winning 7 of the last 8. We went in overtime with a reigional qualifier in Waterford. We missed a 8 foot jumper to beat them as time expired.

This year we have turned an early poor record into winning 6 of the last eight. Its nots lobbying we are playing as good as any 5-10 seeded teams. Its not lobbying its the truth. We are playing better than Miller, Symmes Valley, St. Joe, and Trimble. then, I think we are playing as good as Beaver, Eastern, and Waterford. But, I still list us as a 6-7th seed. Thats a fair judgement!!!!!!Again, its only my opinion!!!



Again.....You are the one that keeps posting Beaver as a 5 seed because of there so called "weak"schedule.......and you turn around and SG should be seeded higher than Trimble!It just makes no sense to me!And as for past tournaments,that has nothing to do with 2009......I could go back and give examples as well but this year is what matters not 1988 or 2007!


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mercerville monster wrote:
How could the SOC do that?I assume you are referring to the SOC 1 and they already have 8 teams.That would mean playing 16 league games if SG joined!The SOC2 also has 8 teams so you could'nt move anyone around either!What about the TVC Hocking?


TVC Hocking has already been talked about but was decided that traveling would be a problem, especially the late nights we would be getting back from some of the games on school nights. I think if it came down to it again and this was talked through, I think SG would be voted into the SOC!



What about the traveling for the SOC schools having to go to SG?Western @ SG is a long haul!Everyone in the league already complains about traveling to Symmes Valley.


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Again.....You are the one that keeps posting Beaver as a 5 seed because of there so called "weak"schedule.......and you turn around and SG should be seeded higher than Trimble!It just makes no sense to me!And as for past tournaments,that has nothing to do with 2009......I could go back and give examples as well but this year is what matters not 1988 or 2007!


Its not that I think Beaver isn't a good team. I have them at five because all of the teams in front of them have a harder schedule and playing good as is Beaver.

Trimble has played alot harder schedule than South Gallia. The reason I put South Gallia above them is their recent success and the fact that Trimble won all of those games except one with their big man in the lineup. We scrimmaged Trimble and they are very well coached but they are a different team without Guthrie. Thats why I am doing that. Does that answer your question? What is Trimble's record since Guthrie went down? They were like 6-2 with him and now they are 7-7 or something like that!!!! Thats the only reason. I think they are a better team than South Gallia with Guthrie but South Gallia could beat them. Without Guthrie, I truthfully think South Gallia is better. Thats my opinion. SG is playing good right now.


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Again.....You are the one that keeps posting Beaver as a 5 seed because of there so called "weak"schedule.......and you turn around and SG should be seeded higher than Trimble!It just makes no sense to me!And as for past tournaments,that has nothing to do with 2009......I could go back and give examples as well but this year is what matters not 1988 or 2007!


You seem to be one of those fans getting fired up. Why do you care so much about his opinion?

What is 20 minutes past SV if you have already been on a bus for that long? And they would only have to make that trip once a year for basketball. If we got accepted for only football, they wouldnt have to worry about it at all.

I agree with future on the five seed as well only because the TVC will stick together and you will be behind Oak Hill and 3 TVC teams.


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mercerville monster wrote:
Again.....You are the one that keeps posting Beaver as a 5 seed because of there so called "weak"schedule.......and you turn around and SG should be seeded higher than Trimble!It just makes no sense to me!And as for past tournaments,that has nothing to do with 2009......I could go back and give examples as well but this year is what matters not 1988 or 2007!


You seem to be one of those fans getting fired up. Why do you care so much about his opinion?

What is 20 minutes past SV if you have already been on a bus for that long? And they would only have to make that trip once a year for basketball. If we got accepted for only football, they wouldnt have to worry about it at all.

I agree with future on the five seed as well only because the TVC will stick together and you will be behind Oak Hill and 3 TVC teams.


I'm not getting fired up......just asked a few questions and still have not got a answer that made sense!

20 mins past SV is a very long ride!It would'nt just be once a year.......would also be for girls basketball,softball, and baseball.I don't see how the SOC could be much more convient than the TVC,thats all!


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I'm not getting fired up......just asked a few questions and still have not got a answer that made sense!

20 mins past SV is a very long ride!It would'nt just be once a year.......would also be for girls basketball,softball, and baseball.I don't see how the SOC could be much more convient than the TVC,thats all!


You have got answers, just answers that you do not like. I think the best seed Eastern will get is a 5 seed as well. Simply because the TVC will stick together. But who knows, Eastern could be anywhere 2-5.

I have been on them long bus rides and 20 minutes doesnt seem like much longer.

When you look at the TVC and Eastern being your closest away game, that is not good. For most people that would be a far away game while it would be our shortest.


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while we are on the topic of long drives. miller to southern is a good hour and half drive. Trimble with guthire was 6-5 with guthrie and now set at 7 -7. Why does it matter if guthrie isnt playing anyway? it shouldnt effect their seed. Along with probably the toughest schedule out of the whole sectional that should be enough for a 5 seed. They beat Southern, Projected #2 seed. in fact they controlled southern the whole game. They beat Waterford without Guthrie, Projected #3 seed. Lost to reedsville eastern on a night they could have thrown the ball over their head backwords from half court and it would go in. They shot aroudn 80% in the first half and only a handful were layups. The other losses such as Vinton County and Alex, lost to alex by 12 and vinton by 4. Its very hard to judge trimble by their record.

1.oak hill
2.southern
3.waterford
4.Pike eastern
5.Trimble
6. Reedsville eastern
7. south gallia
8.St joe
9.symmes
10.miller

Just how i see it guys


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only differences in 4 and 5 seed is what color uniform you wear, what bench you sit on and home/visitor on the scoreboard.....
as i said last night.... a lot could change after this weeks games.


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