Vinton Co. vs. Piketon 2/14 @ OU-Chilli Shoemaker Center

[Sports 101]

maybe that shot ment something personal to piketon for something you dont know about, have you guys ever thought of that. if it was a starter or a player that plays alot i could see where your coming from. but the game is done and over with and both teams will be moving on.

[vc_fan]

Enlighten us

[R-STREAK]

The three point shot came from senior kid that has played in 3 games all year it was exciting too see him score...it was not a pie in the eye kind of thing....

[Solomon]

I have seen VC five times this year. I love the way they play, and I think Coach Combs is one of the best. But, it was a little disappointing tonight. I thought they got manhandled. How in the heck does Piketon have any losses? I thought I was watching OU-C play, big, strong, athletic, and what is up with the facial hair. The Streaks looked like men. VC missed Prater, the Streaks had way too many offensive boards. But I think they would have still loss. I was impressed with the Streaks and I say that if they don't win a District title it would be a disappointment. Oh, I don't have a problem with the three at the end of the game.

[boilermaker]

WoW

[luvthegame]

to be honest vc played their worste game of the season...but piketon didnt look like anything special....im going to be honest and mark my words! piketon wont make it past te first round of districts..they are solid.. and some what athletic but basketball players their short on.....vc gave the gaem away only score 3 points in the second quarter....this is cimpletly off topic but last years vc team would have ran piketon off the court!!!!.....piketon playhers were cocky and the fans showed no class.....last year when our team got pissed we dropped 100 both times....piketon needs to take a page from the vc people an show some class.. and they need to teach their players that being humble will get u far...

And this quote from you shows class?

[CoyDuke]

Piketon is an outstanding team. I'm not quite sure how anyone can say they aren't anything special. Vinton County has a nice team and Piketon was more athletic and better at every position. Piketon obviously wanted to beat the Vikings as badly as they possibly could, and they did. I felt bad for Vinton County having to play without Jake Prater, but it would not have made a difference in the outcome other than it would have made the final score somewhat closer. I think Piketon will make a deep tournament run. I have watched them several times this season, and they seem to play well in the "big" games. They usually don't play as well when they are heavy favorites. All tournament games are big, so I look for them to be ready to play each night. Vinton County will recover from this and continue with a great season. Did anyone think that they would be 14-3 considering what they graduated from last year's team?

[highspeed]

First of all, I didn't see the game but WOW what a difference in the margin of victory. I read in the above post that Jake Prater didn't play due to illness. I am sure that hurt the Vikings chances. Piketon has proven that they have a good team over the last couple of years. Just an outside observation, Vinton Co seems to play poorly outside the conference. They are a different team. I do not think the TVC as a whole is that bad of a conference. I think the lack of quality teams VC plays hurts the kids. All the VC posters are constantly talking about the big win streak in the league over the last couple of seasons. Who have they beat or played out of the conference. Southeastern,Athens,(when they werent TVC)Jackson,Logan,Farifield,Trimble,etc, not exactly real strong opponents You do not play Oak Hill since they have good kids- -drilled in a scrimmage by them,Chillicothe,Logan Elm,Ironton,Portsmouth, Zanesville, heck their JV team was 20-0 versus the same TVC schedule last year. The kids know they dont play anyone other than conference teams. They will never get the respect or should they until they play a better non league schedule. Play someone. Get in the Athens event and play someone-(not SP) who is mediocre at best, get in the Wellston or Chillicothe event and play someone like the other area schools do. If you lose so what, at least your kids will feel like you played against a quality opponent. Right now, it looks like they feel inferior. Until you play good out of conference teams your kids will play poorly outside the conference and you will get no respect from outside the conference. I think the fans realize this but your Coach wont play a better schedule because he trying to pad his record, thats what it looks like from here.

[bengalfan76]

First of all, I didn't see the game but WOW what a difference in the margin of victory. I read in the above post that Jake Prater didn't play due to illness. I am sure that hurt the Vikings chances. Piketon has proven that they have a good team over the last couple of years. Just an outside observation, Vinton Co seems to play poorly outside the conference. They are a different team. I do not think the TVC as a whole is that bad of a conference. I think the lack of quality teams VC plays hurts the kids. All the VC posters are constantly talking about the big win streak in the league over the last couple of seasons. Who have they beat or played out of the conference. Southeastern,Athens,(when they werent TVC)Jackson,Logan,Farifield,Trimble,etc, not exactly real strong opponents You do not play Oak Hill since they have good kids- -drilled in a scrimmage by them,Chillicothe,Logan Elm,Ironton,Portsmouth, Zanesville, heck their JV team was 20-0 versus the same TVC schedule last year. The kids know they dont play anyone other than conference teams. They will never get the respect or should they until they play a better non league schedule. Play someone. Get in the Athens event and play someone-(not SP) who is mediocre at best, get in the Wellston or Chillicothe event and play someone like the other area schools do. If you lose so what, at least your kids will feel like you played against a quality opponent. Right now, it looks like they feel inferior. Until you play good out of conference teams your kids will play poorly outside the conference and you will get no respect from outside the conference. I think the fans realize this but your Coach wont play a better schedule because he trying to pad his record, thats what it looks like from here.

^^^^
Tell us how you really feel about Coach Combs. This was going to be a down year for VC. Anyone with any basketball sense knows you don't loose a senior class like last year and not have to rebuild.

[vc_fan]

The only people who seems concerned about our schedule is people from other schools.Most of the people I talk to from VC would rather win most of our games get a 1 or 2 seed win the sectional make it to the convo and then what ever happens after that is a bonus. No matter who we play during the regular season,we are not going to win a state championship in D2 with homegrown kids.We are proud of OUR kids and coaches for doing it the right way.Most people are jealous of our success we win alot of games and have decent tourny runs,but they would like for us to play a hard schedule so we can lose more.If our schedule does not bother our fans then its nobody elses business.

[hoopin]

In regards to the question of Piketon playing classy, I saw #2 bobbing his head all the way down the floor after most of his made shots and #42 was making some kind of odd howling noise after each "awesome" play he accounted for. Looked like #11 for Piketon and mohawk from VC got into a little scrap as well. Nice win for Piketon.

[bengalfan76]

Let the kids have some fun! Sour grapes makes great wine!

[Sports 101]

so your saying to have class as a player, you cant get excited or show some emotion. so i take it your kids never showed emotion or got jacked up because of a nice play. i doubt that, if vc would of won there would be no talk about piketon showing no class.since vc lost there is nothing better for you fans to do than talk about the other team that waxed the floor with you.

[highspeed]

I do not know every Senior that VC lost. I know they had a good big kid(Guthrie) and a guard(Aberts) I believe. Who else did they lose. Their point guard was on the team, The curly headed kid played alot, Guthries younger brother played, the blonde haired wing played, and the JV was 20-0. They were in pretty good shape coming into the season, and remember other teams lost Seniors also. My point still stands, play a better out of conference schedule and your kids will play better versus out of conference teams. If your Coach is to blame he needs to consider playing someone, if others are making the schedule than they need to consider improving the schedule. I would say they play the weakest schedule out of other area schools, including the other D2 schools Jackson, Zanesville, Gallia, Marietta, Warren, Chillicothe. The point is Combs will always be mediocre until he beats someone that has better or equal talent, name any team he has beat that has more talent than him, you cant name one. He was mediore or below while coaching at East and now he is living off of a good biddee league program he was blessed to inherit and very good talent. They always say that the coaches before him had the same opportunites that he has. I do not agree with this, he has had outstanding talent that could play for the last seven or so years and the league has been down since he has become coach. Years ago Belpre, Alexander, Wellston, Meigs and even Miller, Trimble all had very good teams while it was still one division. Vinton Co only had one or two decent players per year, now they have 5-7 each year. The real difference is the league is so bad, these teams he has now would not have been as dominant back then. They maybe would have one one or two championships instead of 4 or 5 they have won. They would not have won one SEOAL championship and I guarantee that.

[hoopin]

so your saying to have class as a player, you cant get excited or show some emotion. so i take it your kids never showed emotion or got jacked up because of a nice play. i doubt that, if vc would of won there would be no talk about piketon showing no class.since vc lost there is nothing better for you fans to do than talk about the other team that waxed the floor with you.

If any of this was directed at me, then you're off the mark entirely, I was an impartial observer w/zero ties to either team...just watching a game close to home and calling it like I see it.

[bengalfan76]

highspeed let me guess, you your a chillicothe fan? How soon we all forget how bad that program was just 4 years ago.

[vc_fan]

They lost Batey and Stewart.The younger Guthrie and the blonde headed wing kid(Reed) mainly played JV I dont know if they got enough quarters to even get a varsity letter,plus Reed has been moved from guard to post but that being said they have stepped up and played well.A lot of people thought they would only win 10 or 12 games but they are proving them wrong.

[JIMMY THE GREEK]

I really don't think it would have matter much if the Prater kid played or not, Piketon was on their game last night. I watched carefully in the 4th to see how long Lisath would stay with starters and he only left Brabson in late because he is close to 1000 points is what I'm told, however the final could have been a lot worse. VC has a nice young team that has overachieved this season, nobody expected 14-3 at this point.

Fans not showing class....I have no idea what that is about? Every fan yells about officiating, the student section had no derogatory cheers or chants, loud cheers for the teams performance was all I heard.

Kid shooting a 30 foot three pointer at the end....a senior that has seen very limited floor action.....what can you say?

I seen Coach Lisath rip his players all season for getting a little too excited about making a good play. #2 Brabson was probably shaking or bobbing his head, because he has been looking for that shooting stroke all season.

I'm told these two teams will meet at the same place next year....so let's keep it friendly....it's a good game for both programs.

[hawkeyepierce]

No Bengalfan, he is from Wellston. And he is wearing the green-eyed monster called jealously.

The point is Combs will always be mediocre until he beats someone that has better or equal talent, name any team he has beat that has more talent than him, you cant name one....

Coach Combs is 140-55 at Vinton County and are you trying to say that in NOT one of those 140 victories he has beaten a team of equal talent. He has beaten an 140 cupcakes?

I remember him beating an highly talented Wellston team in double overtime at Wellston in 2000-2001.

How about Miami Trace the Schleister kid in 2003-2004 in the District Tournament.

How about Warren in 2006-2007 in the sectional tournament a team that had Hooper, Procter, and Call on it.

How about last year in the District tournament, Washington Court House, Shaw, Frazier, Harris, and Wilson.

How about Rick VanMetre and McClain, last year to win a District championship, Zollo, Polley, Ralph, and Webster.

This year it has been argued on here that Alexander is more talented than Vinton County and yet we have beat them twice.

How about Logan, they are definitely more talented than us.

I just don't think you statement holds water and therefore it has no credibility.

[trojandave]

Congratulations to the Piketon Redstreaks and Coach Lisath on the win......I have seen PHS twice, and they are a very good ballclub that could be playing in the regionals.