Valley D-4 sectional

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We will see Feb.10th . If they have the second best record I say they get the the #2 over Webster because they split the season a 1-1 no matter where they played they still split to knock them out of the #2 a team has to have as many or more wins . And theta the plain facts !!


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sparky wrote:nest,
but if they have to play each other in the sectional then obviously one of them will be gone. that is why they are getting the shaft at the drawing. the whole thing about seeding is the better teams get to advance not the manipulators.
I do agree with the frustration with seeding. My only point is for them to get a higher seed they need to win some of those tough games. How can you just say because they play in the SHL that they deserve a higher seed even if they lose?

I also agree that a super sectional setup would be better. Maybe I am wrong but I doubt the coaches at Meiggs and Lucasville are conspiring right now to screw White Oak? Maybe I give people too much credit?

In my opinion, what matters in seeding is this: 1. Number of wins 2. Quality wins 3. Strength of schedule

But myslef doubt the coaches factor "quality losses." But, I have never set through a seeding meeting so this is all just my opinion...lol


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There's not much of a difference between #2 and #3 seed here based upon potential sectional and district semi matchups, it's the #4/#5 game that you want to avoid. Beaver Eastern loses the most though if Webster gets the # 2 seed over East. They looking at a District Semi against Whiteoak/Fairfield and then a probable District Championship game against Webster, while Notre Dame is playing SOC I teams on their way to Regionals.*


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art_vandelay wrote:There's not much of a difference between #2 and #3 seed here based upon potential sectional and district semi matchups, it's the #4/#5 game that you want to avoid. Beaver Eastern loses the most though if Webster gets the # 2 seed over East. They looking at a District Semi against Whiteoak/Fairfield and then a probable District Championship game against Webster, while Notre Dame is playing SOC I teams on their way to Regionals.*
Interesting take Art,

If that is the way it falls then Eastern Pike will have a much tougher draw in order to make the regionals. Notre Dame would have a much easier draw. But, you have to beat someone to advance in tourney play. Can't wait til CONVO time this year!


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That's the way I see it as well the teams that advance have to beat whoever is in front of them. I think that D-4 in this area is more competative than its been in years there's about 6 teams that are legit threats to to any other team in our area. Regardless of there records . There's some very talented teams for whoever it is to advance they are going to need to beat a few good teams.


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Well Clay,Western,Green, and Machester all dead locked in wins New Boston is the #10 but one of those 4 will be the #6 playing the #3 in a one and done game to get to the Convo !! Western of the 4 has by far the tuffest schedual left up to Feb.10th Green and Clay play each other still . Who wants it guys strap the shoes on a nd go to work !!


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My predictions are based on how teams are playing

1. South Webster
2. Notre Dame
3. East
4. Whiteoak
5. Fairfield
6. Western
7. Green
8. Clay
9. Manchester
10. New Boston

Notre Dame is playing good and they should get #1 seed but the scary schedule webster plays prepares them.


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SymmesValley2013, you must be kidding ! I understand your thoughts on Webster. But do you really think out league the SOC1 is going to pass on one of there own teams who has the best record in the sectional by 2-3 games and give it to another team with a lesser record !? There's no way in the world Notre Dame doesn't get the #1 seed. But you may be on to something with where you have Manchester. They might hit them with a screwed up seed like that. But I think Manchester gets the #6 seed and plays #3 Webster so our league can insure we get 3 of the seeds from the SOC.
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Whatever happens the #5 seed will be 20 points better than the #6 seed.


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After the top 5 there is a huge ,huge separation.


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lightle04 wrote:SymmesValley2013, you must be kidding ! I understand your thoughts on Webster. But do you really think out league the SOC1 is going to pass on one of there own teams who has the best record in the sectional by 2-3 games and give it to another team with a lesser record !? There's no way in the world Notre Dame doesn't get the #1 seed. But you may be on to something with where you have Manchester. They might hit them with a screwed up seed like that. But I think Manchester gets the #6 seed and plays #3 Webster so our league can insure we get 3 of the seeds from the SOC.
I didnt say its how how it will be. Just the way they been playing.


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Notre Dame has won 3 straight though so its not like they are struggleing. There only common opponent is Northwest and East . Webster split with East Notre Dame beat East both times.


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lightle04 wrote:Notre Dame has won 3 straight though so its not like they are struggleing. There only common opponent is Northwest and East . Webster split with East Notre Dame beat East both times.
I know notre dame is really good. I just truly think south webster is the best team in this sectional. Notre dame is a close 2nd. I just think their schedule always prepares them for a tourney run. So u wanna bet me which team lasts longer? Just a friendly wager. Ido love your eagles. Thet hace crazy weapons and will be back in back in the regionals i think.


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notre dame will get the better seed, therefore, the easier route.


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Even as a Webster fan, I think Notre Dame has done enough to get the #1 seed. They beat Eastern, Whiteoak, and East twice, and played Minford tough on the road. That resume, and with a two game lead over Webster in the loss column, gets them the #1 seed. As for the #2 seed, the topic has already been worn out, but if East ends up with the better record, I believe they'll get it over Webster (doesn't mean i think they're better than Webster, just how the SOC I coaches will vote). Webster gets the #3 seed, Whiteoak = #4, Fairfield = #5, and doesn't really matter after that.

As for the #2/#3 seed debate, question is does East or Webster really want it and a matchup against Eastern/Whiteoak/Fairfield in the District Finals, or would they rather get the #3 and take their chances against ND (assuming they can get by Symmes Valley in the semis)?*


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art_vandelay wrote:Even as a Webster fan, I think Notre Dame has done enough to get the #1 seed. They beat Eastern, Whiteoak, and East twice, and played Minford tough on the road. That resume, and with a two game lead over Webster in the loss column, gets them the #1 seed. As for the #2 seed, the topic has already been worn out, but if East ends up with the better record, I believe they'll get it over Webster (doesn't mean i think they're better than Webster, just how the SOC I coaches will vote). Webster gets the #3 seed, Whiteoak = #4, Fairfield = #5, and doesn't really matter after that.

As for the #2/#3 seed debate, question is does East or Webster really want it and a matchup against Eastern/Whiteoak/Fairfield in the District Finals, or would they rather get the #3 and take their chances against ND (assuming they can get by Symmes Valley in the semis)?*
Thats exactly why i think east will try and get 3 seed. Thats the way it should b anyways.


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If Manchester was better they'd definately go for the 2.


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When Will the East vs Eastern game be made up? after feb 10 im sure? :)


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Yes I beleave it's next Tuesday . East has a no school no game policy so it was out of there coaches hands.


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lightle04 wrote:Yes I beleave it's next Tuesday . East has a no school no game policy so it was out of there coaches hands.
Do both teams already have games scheduled this saturday? I think Eastern does.
This game could have potentially had a lot of impact on the seeding in the Valley sectional.......
Would have been nice to get this in before the draw
coulda, shoulda, woulda

....................and that my friends, is the UGLYTRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!


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